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Grabbed a box of AoS Khorne Murder Slaughter Killer Bloods today. The spare parts from the Blood Warriors will make excellent 40k Berzerkers. Also bought the Triumvirate of the Imperium box for Greyfax but I'm thinking Celestine painted in the same colours as the Sigmarines I did would make a great general for them too. I held off on buying the Chaos Codex as I think I spent enough for one visit :/ Still a lot more stuff for less £ than a couple of years ago, especially the start collecting box.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:They're all pretty bloodthirsty, but berzerkers are guys who are completely lost to fighting. Like, they do nothing else but kill. Yeah, you've still got World Eaters Raptors, Warp Talons, Possessed, Terminators, regular CSMs with close combat weapons, and even Havocs, I think
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The flying stands on my Primaris Inceptors broke because they're fragile pieces of poo poo so I remedied this by having the fly boys tilted over on one side so that one muzzle of an assault bolter is touching the base and one of the feet is glancing the ground Venerable Primaris Breakdance Deathmurderers
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SRM posted:
I loved the reading of the google translated version of that ad. Here's a picture from our game last night 
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Aug 12, 2017 18:11
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THE (40k bad)BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN
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chutche2 posted:I can see EC but berserkers? Yeah they're strong but do non-berserker world eaters even exist? They're all berserk but they haven't all earned their Berserker merit badges yet Do other berserkers have the nails / brain lobotomies or is that just Angron? I thought he did that to most of his dudes too. That'd be an easy way to distinguish between tacticals and berserkers. Gyro Zeppeli posted:They're all pretty bloodthirsty, but berzerkers are guys who are completely lost to fighting. Like, they do nothing else but kill. All you need is kill Then there's the blood angels death company...
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Aug 12, 2017 18:12
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Zaphod42 posted:They're all berserk but they haven't all earned their Berserker merit badges yet Here are some non Berserker World Eaters that I did a few years ago. Black Templar weapons and normal heads really set them apart from their Bunny Brethren 
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Aug 12, 2017 18:22
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Zaphod42 posted:They're all berserk but they haven't all earned their Berserker merit badges yet All the actual berserkers have the lobotomies, it's part of becoming one
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Aug 12, 2017 18:25
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Here are some non Berserker World Eaters that I did a few years ago. Black Templar weapons and normal heads really set them apart from their Bunny Brethren These are hot Black_Nexus posted:All the actual berserkers have the lobotomies, it's part of becoming one That's what I thought! So that totally explains it then. World Eater tacticals are just dudes who haven't been through the ritual lobotomies yet. (Haven't earned the honor yet)
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Aug 12, 2017 18:39
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I'm about to start working on a Knight-Acheron today, post your Knights so I can steal your paint schemes.
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Aug 12, 2017 18:41
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goose willis posted:The flying stands on my Primaris Inceptors broke because they're fragile pieces of poo poo so I remedied this by having the fly boys tilted over on one side so that one muzzle of an assault bolter is touching the base and one of the feet is glancing the ground That's why I put a magnet in the inceptors and on the tops of the stands. They didn't look like they'd hold up to normal transporting.
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Aug 12, 2017 18:45
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Zaphod42 posted:These are hot I'm pretty sure all World Eaters have The Nails. Even their heavy weapons guys like Lheor "Don't Call Me Firefist" Ukris
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Aug 12, 2017 18:50
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panascope posted:I loved the reading of the google translated version of that ad. So did Russ just body all of these clowns, or how did this go down.
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Aug 12, 2017 18:52
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ANAmal.net posted:So did Russ just body all of these clowns, or how did this go down. Actually Russ ate 4 disabling strikes and only managed to drop Horus in the very last round of the game.
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Aug 12, 2017 19:15
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I'm pretty sure all World Eaters have The Nails. Even their heavy weapons guys like Lheor "Don't Call Me Firefist" Ukris Yeah they all have the nails, they're just not all Berserkers despite that. Also I love *why* he's called Firefist
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Aug 12, 2017 20:13
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TheChirurgeon posted:There's no rule for anyone getting cult units as Troops. They did a design interview earlier this week where they said that was intentional. So, they had that rule in the Index but have removed it from the Codex? I figured the prohibitively high points cost for a squad of Noise Marines was enough of a limiter to stop spam, or are they cheaper in the Codex at least?
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So how does this work Do you have to have an internship before you're a berserker? All heresy era world eaters veterans have the butcher's nails. How do some of them go "yeah but you know what I really want to do? Use this missile launcher" Also who drives their rhinos?
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chutche2 posted:So how does this work Some amount of giggling and gibs I imagine.
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chutche2 posted:Also who drives their rhinos? Freed prisoners arrested for road rage related incidents . They're constantly honking the horn. They're really annoying to go into battle with.
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I kind of feel like expanding my GSC with a large tyranid beast. I like the idea of some large terrible beast the cult has cultivating over the years. Is there one that functions okay as a one off? Was thinking maybe the harpy crone box to cover the GSC lack of fliers.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I kind of feel like expanding my GSC with a large tyranid beast. I like the idea of some large terrible beast the cult has cultivating over the years. Is there one that functions okay as a one off? Was thinking maybe the harpy crone box to cover the GSC lack of fliers. I've found stonecrusher carnifexes to be kind of disgusting Exocrines are probably the best of the big beasties though. But them having to shoot the closest target without synapse is s problem
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I kind of feel like expanding my GSC with a large tyranid beast. I like the idea of some large terrible beast the cult has cultivating over the years. Is there one that functions okay as a one off? Was thinking maybe the harpy crone box to cover the GSC lack of fliers. For GSCs, I mean, the Genestealer Patriarch is pretty much designed for that role. But if you want something bigger and badder, its hard to go wrong with a Hive Tyrant. You can kit them up lots of ways too. Trygons are also awesome and impressive and a personal favorite model of mine, and a Trygon Prime generates its own synapse too, same as the Tyrant. Being a burrowing beast it kinda makes sense as a secret ally too. For something smaller that would still work on its own, a Lictor or a Zoanthrope could be fun? Or yeah Harpy Crone if you want a serious flyer. No clue how good they are in 8th tho. Maybe just consider a Tyrant with wings? Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Aug 12, 2017 |
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I picked up one of the new Intercessor kits today and I absolutely adore how they do the helmets that attach to the thigh. I'm liking this kit a lot better than the Reivers.
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richyp posted:Grabbed a box of AoS Khorne Murder Slaughter Killer Bloods today. The spare parts from the Blood Warriors will make excellent 40k Berzerkers. Also bought the Triumvirate of the Imperium box for Greyfax but I'm thinking Celestine painted in the same colours as the Sigmarines I did would make a great general for them too. I held off on buying the Chaos Codex as I think I spent enough for one visit :/ Made some good progress on Greyfax, got my speed painting mojo back.  Need to tidy up the metals a bit and try again at dotting the pupil.
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Naramyth posted:Tell me about your guard list! Sure! Sorry about the formatting, but I don't have Battle Scrub in front of me. This was for a 1750pt tournament. Only thing I'd change is drop the Leman Russ Laser Destroyer (it's seriously laughably bad) and replace it with a Manticore. Otherwise I love it. In 2000pts, I'd add a Thunderbolt Heavy Fighter and call it a day.   
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I need the thread's help. I am having fits with flyers. I am a scrub who plays Orks and Chaos Marines and doesn't want to run flyers to counter flyers. Today I had two flyers against me and despite having first turn, they just went across the table and deleted two units. A second round of bad shooting meant they removed even more. Those flyers killed so much because they could kill anything, but I only have a few units that can possibly wound them. And it's too easy for the flyers to ignore terrain and just counter those units first turn. So what is the best way to deal with them?
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Im not sure why you think running flyers is a no go zone but the only second choice you got is run units with the fly keyword like stormboyz.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Im not sure why you think running flyers is a no go zone but the only second choice you got is run units with the fly keyword like stormboyz. I'm not really refusing to use flyers. I just don't think they fit the scale of the game and would prefer not to run them. But that ship has long since sailed it seems.
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Stormboys, Traktor Beams, Raptors, Warp Talons, Daemon Princes and Aegis Defense Lines. Or just bite the bullet and get a flyer of your own.
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jadarx posted:I'm not really refusing to use flyers. I just don't think they fit the scale of the game and would prefer not to run them. But that ship has long since sailed it seems. The same could be said about psykers. Don't take them and see what happens when you have no counter to an entire phase of the game. There's nothing wrong with flyers, they're part of every army. In addition, when you play someone who doesn't have one - it's even easier.
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Yeast posted:The same could be said about psykers. There are two entire armies without any psykers though. 
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Aren't Deffkoptas also FLY units? A squad of those could probably put the hurt on most flyers.
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Most flyers aren't any better at shooting flyers than non-flyers are, there's only a few that get a hit bonus vs flyers but they usually have heavy weapons so get hit penalties for moving The best way to kill flyers is in melee using models with the fly keyword
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jadarx posted:I'm not really refusing to use flyers. I just don't think they fit the scale of the game and would prefer not to run them. But that ship has long since sailed it seems. You don't need to run Flyer-slot Flyers to counter them. But either something that can charge them, ie, something with the Fly keyword and that can feasibly down a light vehicle in CC, or guns that get bonuses against flyers. For loyalists that's stuff like Stalkers, Tarantula Air Defense Batteries, or just stuff with enough volume of fire that you can still hit it with a -1.
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SteelMentor posted:Stormboys, Traktor Beams, Raptors, Warp Talons, Daemon Princes and Aegis Defense Lines. Or just bite the bullet and get a flyer of your own. Or use something with Las and take the -1 to hit to shoot at flyers. A hellbrute with las will still hit on a 4+. Predator with sponsons. Oblits. Order a Legion Sicaran from Forgeworld. It sucks because you've got less options for your dedicated flyer than space marines, but a demon prince will get work done if you throw one into a stormtalon. Or be super janky and get Skarbrand to assault the opponent's flyer. It will be unable to fall back and either have to drop to hover, so you can hit it normally, or crash at it's movement phase.
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General Olloth posted:There are two entire armies without any psykers though. 4 if you count black templars and world eaters (though both of those at least got a deny the witch option). koreban posted:Or be super janky and get Skarbrand to assault the opponent's flyer. It will be unable to fall back and either have to drop to hover, so you can hit it normally, or crash at it's movement phase.
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Why are you all treating them like normal anti-armor weapons are useless? A -1 to hit modifier isn't the end of the world. I get you could do some pretty solid damage with autocannon havocs.
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Zaphod42 posted:Then there's the blood angels death company... Death Company is basically off-brand/loyalist Berserkers in the first place, so it checks out.
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Pendent posted:Why are you all treating them like normal anti-armor weapons are useless? A -1 to hit modifier isn't the end of the world. I get you could do some pretty solid damage with autocannon havocs. For chaos no, for orks that turns your 5+ into a 6+ which isn't a great look
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Pendent posted:Why are you all treating them like normal anti-armor weapons are useless? A -1 to hit modifier isn't the end of the world. I get you could do some pretty solid damage with autocannon havocs. For Chaos, I'm not. This game my havocs couldn't hit or put more than 1 wound on a flyer. The frustration was more due to the Konor mission for this week. Orks are more my concern, due to the need for 6+. I'll look into Stormboyz or DeffKopta.
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