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Junpei posted:Wait... the Pater-Mater Star Door mentions DNA in it... either I forgot or they never said it, but are archaisms robots, organisms, or cyborgs? Or all of the above? Or do they vary based on what type they are? A good rule of thumb; whenever you see DNA mentioned in a video game, just mentally substitute it with "magic".
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I think my favorite thing to nitpick about that door is Kurdalegon Alloy, and how it sounds like they had to create the stuff for their Gospel replicas.
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Junpei posted:Wait... the Pater-Mater Star Door mentions DNA in it... either I forgot or they never said it, but are archaisms robots, organisms, or cyborgs? Or all of the above? Or do they vary based on what type they are? DNA was just a figure of speech there. They wanted Pater-Mater to have the same basic structure and capabilities as all the other Gordias-class giant robots that apparently exist.
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I've blazed through most of Chapter 6 and have officially caught up to the LP! - I didn't realize that the discussions for who to take were both for the monochrome schoolhouse, so I took Agate and Estelle for both parts as well. - Estelle is definitely seeming pretty weak by now, as enemy stats increase so much that small differences in STR make a big difference. But I have discovered that with the Super Gladiator Belt, she can recover 20 CP if she hits 3 enemies with an attack so I can spam crafts as long as the enemies group up enough. - Without the 40k provided by the Monochrome Schoolhouse chests, I wouldn't have been able to afford the star door without a lot of grinding for sepith to sell. I only had 57k before I opened it. - I didn't really care much for the Maybelle has a Comic Misunderstanding skit. - I wasn't much a fan of the orphan door either, at least at first, because I was expecting some sappy "the real stone of happiness is inside you the whole time" aesop. It is still unclear what really happened, since according to Mary's perspective, she's lost overnight, but when she wakes up, it seems like she was only missing a short while, definitely not lost overnight. But the dragon mentions the Aureole and Gorgon which she hasn't heard of. - I made good use of the Happiness Stone on Anelace with 8-Leaf Blitz to get my Wind Sepith up, which was very low after buying a couple high-level wind quartz and unlocking slots. - The Gorgon Laser CAN still Petrify in the Renne door fight. I died to it. - I didn't take Tita with me to Renne's door, but since the only change is that she says "Umm..." it doesn't seem to matter.
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Pardon the double post, but the latest update has been released. Not sure how recently it was, but the Quartz breaking bug is fixed and there's a new Turbo feature, which seems to move things slightly faster
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:the Quartz breaking bug is fixed  two more short ones today   I also just unlocked the next level of Sun Door 3's arena. so I need somebody to pick a party. 
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Really Pants posted:'The truth of my identity is already within your grasp. My number reveals all.' Bleublanc is Enforcer no. 10, so yeah, this is a pretty big hint.
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It was of course entirely predictable that Kurt would be the third opponent, taking the place of Anelace who is in the party. I knew that he had a nasty knockback move, so on my first turn I had Anelace use Sylpharion to boost everyone’s move by 2. I did check the searchlight guessing it was where more sepith was hidden, but it only is interactable from one spot, and I missed it. Luckily the team I picked out for the guardian was heavy on physical damage, so the Bleublanc star door was pretty easy. So Mystery Person X was the real Bleublanc. At first I wondered why the news called them X, Y and Z, but then I realized it was probably to prevent a potential libel suit. Still though, since Roman numerals or the equivilant of them is a thing, the news should have guessed that Bleublanc confirmed that X was the right answer even if they didn’t understand the meaning of “his number”. As for party... let's go with Team Hasn't Been Used In A While (Not You Josette): Olivier, Joshua, and Reis.
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It's a good thing Kurt gets to look like a badass in Schera's moon door, because man, bad things happen to him every time he's on screen in the main story.
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nrook posted:It's a good thing Kurt gets to look like a badass in Schera's moon door, because man, bad things happen to him every time he's on screen in the main story. Except for that one time where the bad thing was completely staged.
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It's worth mentioning that Kurt has Shadow Spear as a craft so make sure you pack instant death protection. I do like how you get Bleublanc's backstory even though it doesn't matter who he used to be. For now anyway, this is Trails after all.
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Pfft, look at some of you acting like any if those backstories were actually true and that Bleublanc isn't just screwing with everyone as per usual. 
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ultrafilter posted:Bleublanc is Enforcer no. 10, so yeah, this is a pretty big hint. Care to elaborate if you have any idea? I have no clue how 10 could link to Bleublanc beyond B declaring "I'm an Enforcer, who cares about details like who I was before that" Super Jay Mann posted:Pfft, look at some of you acting like any if those backstories were actually true and that Bleublanc isn't just screwing with everyone as per usual. That's from an Imperial agency though? Regardless of Bleublanc trolling them I doubt that all three of X, Y and Z could have been Bleublanc's fabrications. You'd need a time machine and if nothing else, you'd think that Ouroborous wouldn't let him access it just to troll people. Omobono fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Aug 13, 2017 |
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Really Pants posted:The Chronicle is going to feel pretty silly when they realize only one of those three could be a number. Except it's a lovely little piece of misdirection. WE know the Enforcers use roman numerals, but I doubt that's common knowledge. Since the entries are numbered already, as "Theory 1" etc., that leaves the majority of people focusing on those and wondering what they mean. Of course, even among those who would know that the "X" is the number in question, what would they do with the info? As a master of disguise, I doubt that even his Bleublanc "look" is his original appearance. You've got a bit of trivia to build a profile on someone who's nuts in the first place. Bleublanc is extremely facepunchable in many ways, but I really do enjoy his riddles. Super Jay Mann posted:Pfft, look at some of you acting like any if those backstories were actually true and that Bleublanc isn't just screwing with everyone as per usual. I don't know. For all his faults, he's got a sense of fair play. I'm not saying he's not trolling, but the beauty of it (hurr) is that there's no way to know. Edit: Omobono posted:Care to elaborate if you have any idea? I have no clue how 10 could link to Bleublanc beyond B declaring "I'm an Enforcer, who cares about details like who I was before that" Just to be explicit about it, X = 10. In other words, he's claiming the first profile they mentioned.
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And now I'm feeling like a moron. On other thoughts, I wonder if that noblewoman joined up with Ouroborous.
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Omobono posted:you'd think that Ouroborous wouldn't let him access it just to troll people. I don't think you've been paying attention
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:Except it's a lovely little piece of misdirection. WE know the Enforcers use roman numerals, but I doubt that's common knowledge. It must be knowledge to many people because they introduce themselves with roman numerals and no one in the group goes "Huh, what do you mean you're Number Vee Eye Eye Eye?". Not even Estelle. quote:Of course, even among those who would know that the "X" is the number in question, what would they do with the info? As a master of disguise, I doubt that even his Bleublanc "look" is his original appearance. You've got a bit of trivia to build a profile on someone who's nuts in the first place. I think the chronicle has specific people in mind when they say X, Y, Z. Stuff like: quote:Immediately after leaving his client behind, Y received a terrible piece of news: is way too specific to just be a "could describe anyone". EDIT: You're right in that he might be hard to find even knowing his previous identity, but a master strategist like Cassius could probably figure some way to use that. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Aug 13, 2017 |
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The thing I've always found notable about Bleublanc's door is how it says Con Artist X is from a country in the south. While this might be reaching, I've always thought it's the same country Schera is from since I remember some dialogue in SC that mentioned she's from a southern country.
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All of this fighting through the various layers has me wondering - why? Are we burning the self-styled "Lord of Phantasma" a way out? Or are they just constantly trying to kill us as hard as they can, limited by force projection?
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Glazius posted:All of this fighting through the various layers has me wondering - why? Are we burning the self-styled "Lord of Phantasma" a way out? Or are they just constantly trying to kill us as hard as they can, limited by force projection? He's already been out, though. He was on the airship in the prologue, before the cube even appeared. That also seems to nix certain theories about who or what the Lord is.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:That also seems to nix certain theories about who or what the Lord is. We can probably rule out Amorous Con Artist X, for one.
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The Lord of Phantasma is just a godly creepy sheep. Estelle, get your stick.
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Really Pants posted:I also just unlocked the next level of Sun Door 3's arena. so I need somebody to pick a party. Okay... I think you're going to want some people who are really fast, can take a bit of punishment, and equip any physical attacker with anti-blind and any casters with anti-sleep protection. I hate to think what the Nightmare arena will be like.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Okay... I think you're going to want some people who are really fast, can take a bit of punishment, and equip any physical attacker with anti-blind and any casters with anti-sleep protection. I hate to think what the Nightmare arena will be like. Even if you can't guess what the final fight is, you won't actually be surprised.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Okay... I think you're going to want some people who are really fast, can take a bit of punishment, and equip any physical attacker with anti-blind and any casters with anti-sleep protection. I hate to think what the Nightmare arena will be like. You also want to give some ADF-boosting stuff on the guys in the front.
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Some Numbers posted:Even if you can't guess what the final fight is, you won't actually be surprised. It's Cassius, isn't it? With Bleublanc (as in, the actual Bleublanc) teleporting in somehow to provide commentary.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:It must be knowledge to many people because they introduce themselves with roman numerals and no one in the group goes "Huh, what do you mean you're Number Vee Eye Eye Eye?". Not even Estelle. Sorry, I meant that in the sense of "Bleublanc being "Enforcer Number X" rather than "Phantom Thief B."" In other words, the Ourbouros connection isn't common knowledge (I don't think.) Edit: Another thought I had in the shower: I doubt they're saying "X" literally, but "10" and the "X" is a stylistic choice that only really pops up in text. Do we even have an in-universe written example where they've referred to themselves like that? I kind of wonder if it's a translation thing in general, like how SpaceDrake said that Kevin's Kansai(?) accent was translated to sound kind of southern/Texan? I don't know enough Japanese to know for sure if this is even a thing, but a... more formal way of saying a number? That sounds silly now that I type it out, but who knows?
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:Sorry, I meant that in the sense of "Bleublanc being "Enforcer Number X" rather than "Phantom Thief B."" In other words, the Ourbouros connection isn't common knowledge (I don't think.) His title in japanese is "執行者No.X" , so they use roman numerals there as well.
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Tamba posted:His title in japanese is "執行者No.X" , so they use roman numerals there as well. Yeah, I'm sticking to NFC then. I could maybe see Bleublanc saying "Enforcer Number X" (with the literal "X"), but imagining Walter saying "Enforcer Number V-I-I-I"... I couldn't take him seriously. At least until he exploded my head or something.
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I got really confused by this part. I got the reference to Bleublanc's number, but thought his number was 1. See, the enforcer numbers match up to the major arcana of the Tarot. The correspondence is generally extremely unsubtle; Joshua gets XIII, or Death, which is about as blunt as you can get. So I figured Bleublanc had to be I, the Magician, right? I mean, he's a magician. It turns out... no. X is the Wheel of Fortune, which I suppose fits just as well.
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nrook posted:I got really confused by this part. I got the reference to Bleublanc's number, but thought his number was 1. The Magician's identity is already known and it's indeed not Bleublanc. "Death" for Joshua isn't as blunt as you'd expect, actually. I mean, yeah, it signifies death, but it's also the card of transformation and development, hinting at Joshua's evolution from a broken "doll" to a person who's actively channeling Estelle when the real thing isn't around. Likewise, "The Devil" for Renne might at first allude to her axe-crazy side, but it's also the card of bondage and restriction, fitting a person who still seems chained to her past until she ran into Miss Sunshine.
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:Yeah, I'm sticking to NFC then. I could maybe see Bleublanc saying "Enforcer Number X" (with the literal "X"), but imagining Walter saying "Enforcer Number V-I-I-I"... I couldn't take him seriously. At least until he exploded my head or something. I'd imagine they're written with Roman numerals but still pronounced as if it was in Japanese.
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