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TwoStepBoog posted:im still confused by the helicopter deaths i dunno, there was some tweet saying it was "linked to white nationalist march" that got deleted, not sure if it was supposed to be implying that the nazis had something to do with it or if by "linked" they mean "were observing from the air"
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Aug 13, 2017 02:00
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last bit of ACLU before watching anime with nazis in itquote:Government can limit some protected speech by imposing "time, place and manner" restrictions. This is most commonly done by requiring permits for meetings, rallies and demonstrations. But a permit cannot be unreasonably withheld, nor can it be denied based on content of the speech. That would be what is called viewpoint discrimination -- and that is unconstitutional. https://www.aclu.org/other/freedom-expression-aclu-position-paper the entire link is p good tbh
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Aug 13, 2017 02:00
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TwoStepBoog posted:im still confused by the helicopter deaths noone knows, apparently it was an accident.
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Aug 13, 2017 02:00
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Reality Winner posted:https://twitter.com/VP/status/896516750660968448 
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Chris James 2 posted:They think everyone must have free speech or nobody has free speech minorities are generally the ones who suffer from hate speech the most hth
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Aug 13, 2017 02:03
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Bert Roberge posted:I grew up in rural WV and saw some serious White Nationalist poo poo. a somewhat more denuded form of that sentiment is prevalent in all levels of society throughout the south
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Aug 13, 2017 02:03
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XK posted:3 killed? 2 of those were helicopter people. They just crashed, right? Dying in a crash isn't killed. Unless someone shot it out of the sky. I heard a rumor that a Nazi drone collided w the chopper but just a rumor
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Aug 13, 2017 02:03
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Oh well that clears things up, guess nobody is really to blame! https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/896533180139814913 https://twitter.com/TheMadDimension/status/896532582497529856
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Aug 13, 2017 02:04
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holy loving  
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Aug 13, 2017 02:04
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XK posted:lol it's an old person that confused the gas and brake. umm no
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Aug 13, 2017 02:04
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awy0cI_4RP4
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Phi230 posted:I heard a rumor that a Nazi drone collided w the chopper but just a rumor The cops are flying drones there?
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Aug 13, 2017 02:05
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Phi230 posted:I heard a rumor that a Nazi drone collided w the chopper but just a rumor i heard that one of the cops said "i'm going to kill these white supremacists" and then promptly flew the helicopter into the earth
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Aug 13, 2017 02:05
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"UNITE THE RIGHT" "EXCEPT THAT GUY! gently caress HIM IN PARTICULAR FOR EXECUTING ON OUR RHETORIC"
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Aug 13, 2017 02:05
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Agrajag posted:umm no 
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Aug 13, 2017 02:05
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Sir Tonk posted:https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/896449899549544448 Remember when he was so upset when 4chan edited his comics to be pro-nazi? Now he's embracing it.
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Aug 13, 2017 02:06
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https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/status/896445078687948800 https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/896537801155637249
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Aug 13, 2017 02:07
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also, every other day in 2017
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don't they sometimes charge fleeing felons with any deaths occurring as a result of police mobilization to apprehend them?
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passionate dongs posted:i heard that one of the cops said "i'm going to kill these white supremacists" My uncle's helicopter works at nintendo and he said the cops in it died because they found the triforce in ocarina of time
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Aug 13, 2017 02:07
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Plinkey posted:go on.... Here is my unsupported by quotes as of yet thesis: The NYT, much like Trump, has reality shaping powers, and they have used them -- for the past two decades -- making the obviously morally bankrupt case that "both sides are the same". This led them to making subtle and less subtle editorial choices all designed to let republicans off the hook, to never call them out on blatant lies, in a way they would leftists -- in order to seem balanced, which must feel nice I guess, and plus no one wants to think of their friends as a nazi enabler even if he is. One boring but important example of this tendency manifested during the Obama years is the way NYT presented bills that were fillibustered as "failled bills", barely giving any narrative space to the fact that republicans killed long-standing political norms by making it routine; and also not explaining the reality of the reasons Obama couldn't achieve a lot of his goals: they repubs changed the rules of political play, and the refs were like tying their shoes for 10 minutes straight. Erasing things like that, making the republican party pay no price for that, killed a whole bunch of very important political norms (also developed in republicans an apparent lust for political norm blood). Also Democrats would be hung by trees, with the Times tightening the rope, if they tried that debt ceiling bullshit for one single second. another major factor is that The NYT hates Hillary so god damned much, the floors there hate her, the curtains wish to humiliate her, and they sold the email story to the public as a "thing", and they had no ladder to climb down that particular tree -- despite the obvious fact that there simply was no Hillary emails controversy. Hillary's name being put next to shady-sounding words on the NYT front page WAS the Hillary Email Story. I mean sure the FBI did a whole show and dance, twirling until they caught loving fire and all the spies started calling reporters speaking none sense basically (I think that was around March? but things get hazy), but if you think that happens without NYT blowing the sails then I guess we just disagree about how your country works/worked. So they thought Hillary is going to be president, and this is like the part of a boss fight where you can hit the big boss. And that is not how journalism is supposed to work, I think. I think these were two major reasons -- completely illegitimate, un-journalistic reasons I might add -- for the NYT 2016 election coverage, which was hugeeeeeely favorable to donald trump (you have to remember that he is literally one of the worst people in the entire world to be president, literally you and I would be far better presidents I don't even care who reads this it's 99.99% true). During the 2016 election, the NYT has made every possible editorial (note - editorial, their investigative work is, obv, still the best in the world) choice to prop up donald trump whenever possible. I suppose I have to, like, prove that, by going through the archives from convention (the point in which "this is real 100% he's the candidate", also adjacent to gold star parents thing) to pussytapegate (at which point I can see how you think you're playing in a sandbox, not that you should, but that's not where the real problem is) but uggghhh. The "stretched the truth" thing is a quote I distinctly remember (and in my head attribute to the Times, but maybe I'm wrong?) in which the times said something very similar to "donald trump stretched the truth when he claimed hillary clinton 'never did anything for children in her life'" - which is, like, crazy. I can't loving find it anywhere though, and I can't seem to operate the "track changes in the NYT website. I found it in the past, pretty quickly too, unless I am now fully imagining things. Anyways good thing I didn't pitch this to anyone yet, huh? I don't really have any archive skills though, and my brother also distinctly remembers me showing it to him on my iphone when they wrote it because I was freaking the gently caress out throughout the entirety of 2016 and especially around that time. I remember it as a throwaway line in the trump-mexican president-meeting coverage, and if anyone here exposed to this message remembers it too -- please say so. If you can find it that's even better (I'll be sad if it's not the NYT but if I can't find it at all I'll, well, I'll just be very very frustrated). I have to go to bed but if there are no future updates on this matter I failed and/or am a fraud. (Oh but the rest of the NYT-did-this theory totally holds up without the quote, I'll just that in order to prove it I'll have to do allll this worrrrrrrrrrk and I'm so tired). FAKE EDIT: FOUND IT YESSSSS IT'S AS BAD AS I REMEMBER. Also the public editor adressed the matter, and it turns out the NYT public editors' articles did. not. age. well. Turns out it wasn't related to the mexico trip at all ha ha *collapses*  
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Aug 13, 2017 02:07
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more Talking Heads pls the world needs Big Suit now more than ever
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Aug 13, 2017 02:07
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Deki posted:Remember when he was so upset when 4chan edited his comics to be pro-nazi? Now he's embracing it. yeah that always confused me, i guess he was always a racist shitsucker.
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Aug 13, 2017 02:08
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:what you payin bby i told you since you started with me, you ain't no ho you ain't gotta dance; you make money move never sleep on your worth
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Aug 13, 2017 02:08
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fuk it's 3 am here and I'm drinking and you're fixin to get all rahowa acorss the pond then? wtf is going on tell me
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Aug 13, 2017 02:09
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Agrajag posted:umm no They just dropped their withdrawal medicine on the floor, because of the opioid crises, and hit the wrong pedal. Honest mistake.
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Aug 13, 2017 02:09
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Grem posted:ACLU is pretty consistent in defending the rights of everyone regardless of what they believe. I'm a paying ACLU member (and probably will remain so) but I intensely disagree with them on the Nazi thing Fascist speech is dangerous, always always always always, and it must be suppressed. It can't be allowed to spread in society, fascist speech and ideology specifically exploits the weaknesses of a tolerant society (especially obvious when you see that the ACLU goes to bat for them) to get themselves a platform and recruit members. They don't care about the free exchange of ideas, they don't care about intellectual rigor, they will say and do anything to get the message out and once they have enough followers/power will instantly crush free speech. The problem (and why I'm giving the ACLU something of a pass on this, personally) is that deciding what exactly is fascist speech is hard to do in legal writing. Obviously incitement (and hate speech generally) is covered, but fascist speech extends beyond that.
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Aug 13, 2017 02:09
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#damson
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Deki posted:Remember when he was so upset when 4chan edited his comics to be pro-nazi? Now he's embracing it. garrison makes baghdad bob look like a tower of rectitude and veracity as do many republicans these days, actually the shamelessness of the propaganda is breathtaking
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Aug 13, 2017 02:10
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah that always confused me, i guess he was always a racist shitsucker.  changes a lot of people
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passionate dongs posted:i heard that one of the cops said "i'm going to kill these white supremacists"
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passionate dongs posted:i heard that one of the cops said "i'm going to kill these white supremacists"
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Aug 13, 2017 02:11
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SKULL.GIF posted:I'm a paying ACLU member (and probably will remain so) but I intensely disagree with them on the Nazi thing yeah, but better to let them get out in the open of their own free will so we can see who they are and how bad they've gotten
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SKULL.GIF posted:
ex: notch
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why do i have posting a new reply in this thread bookmarked under the name JIM
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univbee posted:The ACLU is very bizarre in that they are EXTREMELY gung-ho about free speech for EVERYBODY and frequently defend neo-nazis and the like. How the NRA is about the 2nd amendment, the ACLU is about the 1st. Skokie was the go-to on these kinds of things, but after today,
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