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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Father Brown owns, bruh

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pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

ate all the Oreos posted:

The only "tech journalist" we ever had was sarah jeong, for like 5 pages, until some weirdo asked her to be his "submissive asian wife" and she promptly left.

So much for us being a vile safe space full of SJW's!
When you live in a tiny ideological bubble to the extent that St. Rev does, everything outside your bubble (e.g., everything from mainstream political thought to Something Awful to communism) seems like parts of the same whole. Put another way, if your primary experience with mainstream anti-sexist thought is Something Awful, you're going to see a whole lot of "SA influence" in basically the entire internet outside your bubble.

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

are these guys seriously arguing that people shouldn't want to work someplace where they're not seen as categorically inferior by most of their colleagues?

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


noether posted:

are these guys seriously arguing that people shouldn't want to work someplace where they're not seen as categorically inferior by most of their colleagues?

In that they should accept the fact that they are inferior, on a biological level, yeah totally. Just accept that you're naturally not as good as men, ladies! You thought you liked coding and engineering, but you're wrong and you really should be nursing or something. I mean, if you were good enough, these dudes who already think you're naturally inferior would have recognized your abilities, because cognitive bias isn't a thing!

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

If you want to see the real George Orwell you need to read his essays and book reviews. His current reputation as the right's pet leftist would horrify him.

Oh that I do know. I never understood why some people latched on to him from the Right. I am also glad he hated Stalin, I wish more Western European leftists could disregard him and what he did.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Josef bugman posted:

Oh that I do know. I never understood why some people latched on to him from the Right. I am also glad he hated Stalin, I wish more Western European leftists could disregard him and what he did.
Probably because they all read Animal Farm and 1984 in high school and only remembered the bits they agreed with (oppression is bad, freedom is good!).

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

pookel posted:

Probably because they all read Animal Farm and 1984 in high school and only remembered the bits they agreed with (oppression is bad, freedom is good!).

I seem to remember Scalia quoting Harrison Bergeron in some dumb opinion on PC gone too far!! and Vonnegut actually issued a "you're reading it wrong, idiot" reply

e: I got it sorta right

quote:

In 2005 the story was quoted by attorneys in a brief before the Kansas Supreme Court. Vonnegut was quoted as saying that while he did not mind the story being used in the suit, he disagreed with the lawyers' interpretation of it.[6] U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia quoted the story in PGA Tour, Inc. v. Martin.

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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

What I'm saying is the right is bad at getting anything but the most surface-level shallow reading from literature and it shows

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

ate all the Oreos posted:

I seem to remember Scalia quoting Harrison Bergeron in some dumb opinion on PC gone too far!! and Vonnegut actually issued a "you're reading it wrong, idiot" reply

That document is open to interpretation.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

i really want someone to explain what andrea's on about here, because this is seriously past me. is she seriously arguing that criticism of the manifesto guy is as good as wanting his murder?

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Fututor Magnus posted:

i really want someone to explain what andrea's on about here, because this is seriously past me. is she seriously arguing that criticism of the manifesto guy is as good as wanting his murder?

That seems to be pretty much it, yeah. "You're saying it's okay to take action against things you disagree with. But have you considered that murder is an action? :smug:"

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Eh it's just the " disagreement is the same as censorship" taken to its logical conclusion.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Goon Danton posted:

That seems to be pretty much it, yeah. "You're saying it's okay to take action against things you disagree with. But have you considered that murder is an action? :smug:"

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/265279688342134784

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Fututor Magnus posted:

i really want someone to explain what andrea's on about here, because this is seriously past me. is she seriously arguing that criticism of the manifesto guy is as good as wanting his murder?

Yeah there's nothing deeper than her just claiming that "if X is okay then there's no 'underlying mechanism' built in to [whatever system she thinks she's talking about] that explicitly says murder is not ok and therefore X == murder"

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I mean it seems like it can be easily defeated by just explicitly saying out loud "murder is never ok" but don't let me get in the way of your weird masturbatory cultural-marxism-hating

Sax Solo
Feb 18, 2011



No, every single moral principle must stand on its own, an entire moral code unto itself.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Sax Solo posted:

No, every single moral principle must stand on its own, an entire moral code unto itself.

It's this weird habit that utilitarians possess.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

http://mattbruenig.com/2017/08/10/the-trump-nlrb-will-smash-the-google-guy/

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
A reddit community dedicated to mocking LW talks about the google thing, a LW dude(rn443) pops in to defend the honor of the google thing, it goes about how you'd expect https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/..._name=SneerClub

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

The Vosgian Beast posted:

A reddit community dedicated to mocking LW talks about the google thing, a LW dude(rn443) pops in to defend the honor of the google thing, it goes about how you'd expect https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/..._name=SneerClub

I like the haiku bot.

Hate Fibration
Apr 8, 2013

FLÄSHYN!
Speaking of SneerClub, check out this gem linked there.

This is definitely a man who should be taking care of children.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Hate Fibration posted:

Speaking of SneerClub, check out this gem linked there.

This is definitely a man who should be taking care of children.

yeah, the guy is so ridiculously beholden to the worst type of hereditism, social darwinism, full genetic determinism that i want to laugh at the prospect of him realizing that there's no real evidence for his position. the guy doesn't even realize that twin studies are utter garbage but is certain that genetic augmentation of humanity is a viable solution to the world's ills.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/896166762361704450

Ah Musky, truly the most concisely wrong of the Tech Lords.

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Good. They can't do any worse than we humans have.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
st. rev. defending fascists until the end.

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/896468671517872129
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/896539891265396741
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/896444344160399360

this is a guy who thinks every shooting is done by an islamist until it's shown not to be, interesting that he falters when nazis are to blame for terrorist acts.

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Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


We don't KNOW it's a fascist! It might be someone else who thinks that murdering people counterprotesting protests over the removal of a confederate monument is a great idea! You know, that diverse group of peoples.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/turrible_tao/status/896145069379432448
https://twitter.com/SeanMcElwee/status/896123868217098241
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/896145625573490688

Puppy Time posted:

We don't KNOW it's a fascist! It might be someone else who thinks that murdering people counterprotesting protests over the removal of a confederate monument is a great idea! You know, that diverse group of peoples.

now look how he talks about antifa

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/871569833854455809
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/822564995997270020
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/823662374829916161

nazis who run over counterprotestors are peaceful demonstrators, while antifa are violent commie gangs who want to put you against the wall or in gulag.

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TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.



This is a weird bit of synergy with the tankie left too; they hate anarchists (which tend to form the bulk of antifa movements) and think they're all cops.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

TinTower posted:

This is a weird bit of synergy with the tankie left too; they hate anarchists (which tend to form the bulk of antifa movements) and think they're all cops.
it's actually even stupider than that, read the tumblr link, rationalist tumblr stupidity has never been that good.


https://twitter.com/supermarlobrand/status/882762474394497024
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/882763200621674497
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/882766674834976768

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

TinTower posted:




This is a weird bit of synergy with the tankie left too; they hate anarchists (which tend to form the bulk of antifa movements) and think they're all cops.

was that laci green tweet sarcastic? if not, holy poo poo

also of course anarchists are cops! nothing says "I dislike the concept of authoritative institutions" like dressing up in a uniform and protecting the status quo, after all

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
and now i read that college student counterprotestors took a big stand against nazis in charlottesville, a group that rev thinks are more dangerous than nazis.

worst being college students who take up the cause of blm and antifa, but they're all brainwashed sjw zombies regardless.

e: also hilarious the lengths rev has gone to prove that the far right is harmless in america compared to islamists and commie antifas.

Fututor Magnus has a new favorite as of 04:22 on Aug 13, 2017

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Hey Rev if you're reading this I still really want to know how Trump not being an LGBT ally came as a surprise to you

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


noether posted:

was that laci green tweet sarcastic? if not, holy poo poo

also of course anarchists are cops! nothing says "I dislike the concept of authoritative institutions" like dressing up in a uniform and protecting the status quo, after all

She's apparently been against the nazis on this one in other tweets, so who even knows wtf at this point.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


Super Mar if you're still reading this we don't think Scott Alexander is NRX or hate him, he's just kinda... naive...

Like I don't think anyone in this thread hates him, he's just weirdly, i don't know, adorable in how bumbling and wrong he is about everything.


Also who is "one unhinged dude who has a grudge bc I dissed Kant"? Vosgian Beast?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Hey Rev if you're reading this I still really want to know how Trump not being an LGBT ally came as a surprise to you

He never said trump would be an LGBT ally, just that he was better than Hillary, who as we all know has actually murdered several gays as sacrifices to the straight people gods

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


I... can't tell if this is serious or a good joke...

Grace Baiting
Jul 20, 2012

Audi famam illius;
Cucurrit quaeque
Tetigit destruens.



The Time Dissolver
Nov 7, 2012

Are you a good person?

ate all the Oreos posted:

I... can't tell if this is serious or a good joke...

Could be a (galaxy brain level, obv) corollary of the "they know they're transgressive, they don't care about discourse or decorum" rigmarole but I'm inclined to believe she's not that far gone yet.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Someone on the IOSM thread says it's a response to a deleted tweet, so presumably pointing out the idiocy of someone's statement.

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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

ate all the Oreos posted:

Super Mar if you're still reading this we don't think Scott Alexander is NRX or hate him, he's just kinda... naive...

Like I don't think anyone in this thread hates him, he's just weirdly, i don't know, adorable in how bumbling and wrong he is about everything.


Also who is "one unhinged dude who has a grudge bc I dissed Kant"? Vosgian Beast?

:shrug:

I think I brought up his hateboner for Kant once but honestly his hatred of long-dead Germans is quaint and charming compared to his horrifically bad opinions on modern day events

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