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ugh its Troika posted:I personally think big gaming websites are mostly obsolete. They are an outgrowth of 90s gaming mags, which were once important because the internet was still tiny and gay back then. Now? I can find out anything I want about a game by Googling a bit and checking out some YouTube videos. I don't need to engage with a community slowly filling with shrieking genderblobs who melt the gently caress down because some poo poo shows a tit, or has too many/too few black characters, or doesn't cater to some Tumblr idiot's pronoun thesaurus of the week. Seems that way buy Polygon and The Verge still get 20 million uniques a month. That's a lot of money moving through. The publishers and big companies still rely on them pretty heavily as well. Hodgepodge posted:what we really need is some non-sjw gamer culture, a very lacking thing, also i don't know why non-white people wouldn't want to go to non-sjw sites Don't what this is supposed to mean. Before 2010 they were all non-sjw sites. Everyone got along well enough back then, but now I'm disassociative becuase I think we haven't yet gone to far to turn back?. And it's not just gaming and internet stuff. Sports, movie and tv critics, news, music. All of that used to be targeted towards everyone and weren't pushing any agenda other than maxing out profits. No reason it can't be that way again.
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breaklaw posted:Seems that way buy Polygon and The Verge still get 20 million uniques a month. That's a lot of money moving through. The publishers and big companies still rely on them pretty heavily as well. this is only a justifiable perspective if you unironically think 'everyone' means 'straight white guys' you can't challenge the wokes without understanding they've latched on to the issues they have because they are real issues with genuine moral weight. they do so entirely performatively in order to use them as leverage, but you need to realize that they do so because it allows them to align themselves with the actual concerns of many groups of real people. the crumbling of the superficial farce they have made of that does not make those issues and people go away. even the alt-right understands what you do not: that going back to 2010 would require violent use of state power to surpress everyone who isn't a straight white male Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 03:16 on Aug 13, 2017 |
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breaklaw's post was phrased pretty poorly, but there is room for news sites about video games, music, tv and movies, sports, etc. that don't push a culturally liberal agenda. problem is, those sites have become few and far between in recent yearssuper sweet best pal posted:RPS went bad, Polygon went bad, Kotaku has always been bad. other sites, sports and others, have gone through similar transformations in the last couple of years. not all of them were as bad as Deadspin's, but all of them lost what made them unique and worth coming back to every day get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 03:25 on Aug 13, 2017 |
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I think the language and the critiques done by these people have caused quite a few of these problems. There are some legitimate criticisms that can and should be made of how women, minorities and others are shown in media. That's not an argument. I've seen even right wing youtubers admit the same thing. A right wing youtuber made a good point about the problem relating to it. The problem wasn't so much having things critiqued from a feminist or a social justice perspective. That's fine if it's done in an intellectually honest way. The problem came when it the critiques were not coming from legitimate academics but let's just be blunt here....HACKS. Idiot trustfund kids who took two semesters of a women's studies course does not a good criticism of various subjects make. especially when said person refuses to put "class" into the equation. loving a. I've had feminist professors in college that introduced me to new ways of thinking and challenged me. I've never seen that from the Lena Dunham's and Lindy West's of the world. They exist to be self indulgent and make themselves feel good. They don't actually care.
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FuzzySkinner posted:The problem wasn't so much having things critiqued from a feminist or a social justice perspective. That's fine if it's done in an intellectually honest way. The problem came when it the critiques were not coming from legitimate academics but let's just be blunt here....HACKS.
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yeah, it is more clear every day which people actually understand and care about progressive issues and which are trying to use critical language to enact their own bigotry and protect their extensive privilege like the woke brands thread is hilarious
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Hodgepodge posted:yeah, it is more clear every day which people actually understand and care about progressive issues and which are trying to use critical language to enact their own bigotry and protect their extensive privilege "HOW WILL THAT SOLVE RACISM!?" ... The saddest thing. You know those people these idiots slandered "Bernie Bros"/"Brocialists"? Yeah.. https://twitter.com/ManOfGoodPosts/status/896487435315552256 get that OUT of my face posted:bingo. these writers think that they're so profound and important, but they're just regurgitating the same talking points, surface-level understanding of concepts, and vernacular hundreds of times. more than anything else, they're boring. they have nothing new to say They have no interest in actually solving those problems. They have more interest in getting people fired, getting some stupid character written in a book or something stupid of that nature.
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FuzzySkinner posted:They have no interest in actually solving those problems. They have more interest in getting people fired, getting some stupid character written in a book or something stupid of that nature.
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yeah, this was their line going into this on the people who actually stood up and did something: https://twitter.com/katz_oversight/status/896553041826074624
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Hodgepodge posted:yeah, this was their line going into this on the people who actually stood up and did something: well yeah they are dumb pussies, even the GOP is smart enough to loving distance themselves quick as gently caress from the alt right.
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Hodgepodge posted:yeah, this was their line going into this on the people who actually stood up and did something: It makes me feel all the more disgusted I saw these people smeared. Here they are, the idiot lanyard/blue checkmark upperclass libs finger wagging at the very people who were actually protecting minorities, lgbt, and others from a hoard of nazi's. 3 of them lost their loving lives. I want these people to publicly apologize to those they smeared as "Bernie bros" for questioning their character, and then to step the gently caress aside. e: I don't always agree with DSA. But I'll be damned if I'd rather march hand in hand with them rather than the shitheads that smeared them.
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FuzzySkinner posted:It makes me feel all the more disgusted I saw these people smeared. i think alot of these dips are gonna shut the gently caress up after this.
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I wouldn't underestimate the desire of authoritarians to drag their social lessers through the mud. They'll be back at it again in a week.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think alot of these dips are gonna shut the gently caress up after this. nah someone's gotta bring the hot take White Supremacy Is Bad and then somehow get to Here's How Marmaduke Is Encouraging It
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think alot of these dips are gonna shut the gently caress up after this. They were smearing the very people that were trying to protect those from these fascists as the "alt left". Literally this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4M4Yj6y0j0 My head is spinning. These people should be the epitome of ashamed right now. Where the gently caress were these assholes? The "Bernie Bros" these people were whining about DIED trying to organize against these people. The very people that they claimed didn't give a poo poo about black people, lgbt or women.
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get that OUT of my face posted:bingo. these writers think that they're so profound and important, but they're just regurgitating the same talking points, surface-level understanding of concepts, and vernacular hundreds of times. more than anything else, they're boring. they have nothing new to say Their whole view of things is backwards. They think they can change the world by changing the art/media that comes out of it.
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sort of related, this medium article has a really good paragraph in it. it concerns british tv comedy but it's applicable to drat near everythingquote:And dear god, please stop shoving ‘feminist’ or ‘diverse’ tropes over comedy just for the sake of appealing to the youth of today. You are awful at it. If you have a ‘strong’ female character, you make her so perfect she becomes incredibly boring and unrealistic.... Same goes with your badly written token gay, black or disabled characters. If they don’t have anything funny or interesting about them, they just fade into the pedestal of why. And then -thanks to you- people say women/black people/gay people/disabled people aren’t funny or are two dimensional. Thanks a lot, representation.
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So uh https://twitter.com/eclecticbrotha/status/896327115821518849 Yeah. The libs doing this need to be told off now after what happened today
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which naive idiot itt said that idpol assholes would be backing off for a week before going back to the tired "economic inequality is for the most privileged and well-off group of society" trope?
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FuzzySkinner posted:So uh I am glad that the next frankenstein will be attacked with tiki torches.
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FuzzySkinner posted:So uh That tweet has some of the worst conversation I've ever seen in the replies, and that's saying something.
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get that OUT of my face posted:which naive idiot itt said that idpol assholes would be backing off for a week before going back to the tired "economic inequality is for the most privileged and well-off group of society" trope? These idiots would have thought that MLK Jr marching on Selma was "not doing enough to combat racism" That's how up their own rear end they are. They were throwing shade at cornel west today. Guess who was at the rally while these idiots were not? What a bunch of loving frauds.
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you guys, i can't get enough of the second paragraph of this article about white supremacists using the Detroit Red Wings logo. look at itquote:Many of them carried tiki torches, an item that was popularized in the 20th century as so many things are by white Americans: By misappropriating another culture’s iconography and artifacts in an unending Borg-like quest for assimilation, and then selling them at Party City. it's a good article otherwise but goddamn, dude
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Hodgepodge posted:yeah, this was their line going into this on the people who actually stood up and did something: FuzzySkinner posted:It makes me feel all the more disgusted I saw these people smeared. I don't have any problems with actual protests against whatever group, but talking about the violent left is about the antifa shitheads who claim they're fighting fascism when they go out to start fights and burn poo poo down, which is literally the exact reason people have started turning up to protests with shields and weapons of various sorts of their own. Turns out that months of people turning up to events or protests and attacking anyone they disagreed with escalated things a little, who would have thought?! I've skimmed the actual article and while it gets a few small but important things wrong it's worth actually reading, especially given your responses to it. FuzzySkinner posted:Here they are, the idiot lanyard/blue checkmark upperclass libs finger wagging at the very people who were actually protecting minorities, lgbt, and others from a hoard of nazi's. 3 of them lost their loving lives. From pictures it seems like regular decent protesters showed up in big numbers Saturday, which is who was probably mostly affected by the car incident(especially since the guy didn't just have his head caved in), I'd definitely have less sympathy if it was antifa reaping what they had sown.
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lohli posted:Come the gently caress on, dude, this wasn't a bunch of skinheads rounding up the coloureds and queers when the brave counter-protesters swooped in to save them at the cost of their own lives(2 of those 3 dead were police in a helicopter crash miles away), it was a bunch of pathetic retards that should have been either ignored or should have been protested against peacefully, rather than having people try to start fights with them like they did Friday night and Saturday morning. sorry i've checked the opinions and if you're not openly expressing that the only solution is to sweep them with a machine gun you support white supremacy
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sword_man.gif posted:sorry i've checked the opinions and if you're not openly expressing that the only solution is to sweep them with a machine gun you support white supremacy this is true, actually
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Taintrunner posted:this is true, actually guess i'm a nazi then because i don't believe in cutting down lives just because they have a reprehensible opinion do something if they hurt someone but just protesting isn't illegal and wanting to enact violence against them for protesting gives them credibility and encourages them. hope that helps.
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sword_man.gif posted:guess i'm a nazi then because i don't believe in cutting down lives just because they have a reprehensible opinion thank god it's more than simply a reprehensible opinion, then
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Taintrunner posted:thank god it's more than simply a reprehensible opinion, then oh right they hit someone with a car, well then round up the ones responsible and take care of it
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sword_man.gif posted:oh right they hit someone with a car, well then round up the ones responsible and take care of it they seriously injured multiple people and killed a woman, the body isn't even cold yet. jesus christ. also the cops are white supremacist, dum-dum and if they weren't emboldened by an organized fascist movement they wouldn't draw up the courage to attempt such a feat. this is the reason you oppose these people, violently and in public, because it is literally the only language they understand. they see the tolerance and decorum of liberalism as not only weakness, but also opportunity to grow their numbers
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I think the levers of power are now sufficiently woke that we can safely do away with the fundamental freedoms that are - unfortunately - protecting white supremacist shitheads.
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Freedom of speech and assembly? White supremacist bullshit invented to help the Oppressor perpetuate hate. Due process? More like delayed justice.
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Taintrunner posted:and if they weren't emboldened by an organized fascist movement they wouldn't draw up the courage to attempt such a feat. They're emboldened because they think this is their grand opportunity to break into the mainstream, probably because people on the left have spent so long calling everyone racist that the nazi larpers think they might actually be in good company. As for being emboldened to "attempt such a feat", I wouldn't be surprised if the guy's motivation was that antifa had been attacking people whenever conservatives tried to host an event or protest and that they had been trying to start poo poo the night before and earlier in the day. From earlier: https://twitter.com/letsgomathias/status/896202475178528769 It's definitely good that it looks like the counter-protesters on saturday were overwhelmingly regular folks instead of antifa and it's a shame that they're bearing the misplaced brunt of a particularly disgusting retard's frustration, but let's not pretend that the tiny assembly of pasty idiots collected from allover the country(a bunch of them were from as far away as detroit) goosestepping around with tiki torches are the harbingers of the fourth reich. Taintrunner posted:this is the reason you oppose these people, violently and in public, because it is literally the only language they understand. they see the tolerance and decorum of liberalism as not only weakness, but also opportunity to grow their numbers Taintrunner posted:they see the tolerance and decorum of liberalism as not only weakness, but also opportunity to grow their numbers  Ah yes, such tolerance and decorum.
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Let me explain it to you in as simple as terms as possible. Nazis are literally the exception that proves the rule when it comes to defending free speech rights, because they are the political project who seek to do little more than take it away from as many people as possible, through means of violence and oppression. America literally put young men on boats and sent them across the Atlantic to shoot Nazis in the head not a century before. Nazis, which is what these people idolize, seek to be, and for all intent and purposes are, have an outspoken belief in violent oppression, and are absolutely a tool of right wing neofascist conservatives like Ted Cruz to point at and go "oh not me nuh uh I'm not that bad" while turning around and proposing violent patrols of Muslim communities. They are, quite simply, the only group that is not entitled to assembly, because they seek to take that right away from literally everyone else that does not look like them.
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Taintrunner posted:that's a lot of "heheheh soon you will see that rioting burning down Berkely buildings and attacking people was really peaceful decorum heheheheh" Unrelated: http://luxlibertas.com/a-berkeley-escape-hatch/ | A Berkeley ‘Escape Hatch’ quote:The University of California at Berkeley played down news last summer that it had installed an “escape hatch” from protesters in the chancellor’s office. The term was “the concoction of a 19-year-old headline writer,” a university spokesman said, referring to the student reporter who broke the story. “It’s a door,” the rep said, later adding that campus security thought it was “beneficial” to have more than one exit. This is actually a WSJ article but I linked to the mirror instead since the original is behind a pay wall. Remember kids refusing to make excuses for violent pricks who threaten the lives of university faculty is ~bootlicking~. e: I find it highly amusing that internet tough guy keyboard warriors are wandering through here pretending they have what it takes to stand up to a real skinhead. A real skinhead can pop your head straight off your neck, and won't hesitate to do so. Move along, move along.
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Taintrunner posted:liberals: literally writing Mary Sue fan fiction of Nazis as all powerful ubermensch for them Alright, fine. Go out and try to find a pack of Nazis and give your best warrior howl when you run at them. Report back with the results. I'll definitely be waiting up for you to prove how strong and brave you are and how you totally took down 7 guys at once or something Bourne style.
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HIJK posted:Alright, fine. Go out and try to find a pack of Nazis and give your best warrior howl when you run at them. Report back with the results. I'll definitely be waiting up for you to prove how strong and brave you are and how you totally took down 7 guys at once or something Bourne style. you do understand that leftist groups like antifa, john brown gun club, redneck revolt, etc. actually organize and think through and practice this poo poo before going out and "Bourne style" or whatever your delusions of glorious ubermensch Nazis popping heads off trust fund college kids may be
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