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wolrah posted:At least for the RV trailer role from the research I've done since last night it seems like even the most aerodynamic fixed-roof trailers basically double the drag-related power consumption of a Model X, and then whatever they weigh hurts similarly when going up hills (though likewise helping regen when going down). At that point 100kWh of battery in the trailer would just be mostly making up for the trailer being there on its own if even that, definitely not adding hundreds of miles more range. Yeah, pulling a trailer definitely sucks some juice. If consumption doubled and you trailered a battery to give you double capacity, you would get back the lost range, but the charging time per unit of distance will still be double, given that the charging power doesn't double as well. But think a bit more, consider the price of a 100 kWh battery and how it would mostly sit unused outside your house, even if you're an avid camper. Two simpler, cheaper alternatives: a tent or a luxury resort.
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wolrah posted:At least for the RV trailer role from the research I've done since last night it seems like even the most aerodynamic fixed-roof trailers basically double the drag-related power consumption of a Model X, and then whatever they weigh hurts similarly when going up hills (though likewise helping regen when going down). At that point 100kWh of battery in the trailer would just be mostly making up for the trailer being there on its own if even that, definitely not adding hundreds of miles more range. I thought about that, and it would be nice if there was a plug that could charge the battery near the trailer hitch. You could have a generator in the trailer, run it on the highway to charge the car/extend the range. run it at the campsite to run your fridge and radio. If the trailer is the thing killing your range, why not also make it a range extender.
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Powershift posted:You could have a generator in the trailer, run it on the highway to charge the car/extend the range. run it at the campsite to run your fridge and radio. Ah, life in the wilderness.
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I'm going to open up a ballast stand at the top of a long windy road where I rent out a water tank trailer to EVs so they get extra regen going down hills. Then they get emptied out and pulled back up the hill by a fleet of solar recharged model X's. I'll be printing money I tell you!
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bull3964 posted:I'm going to open up a ballast stand at the top of a long windy road where I rent out a water tank trailer to EVs so they get extra regen going down hills. Then they get emptied out and pulled back up the hill by a fleet of solar recharged model X's. No the plan is you coordinate EV owners at the top and bottom of the hill and turn them into a crude funicular. The one going down hill drags another one coming up hill.
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D C posted:No the plan is you coordinate EV owners at the top and bottom of the hill and turn them into a crude funicular. The one going down hill drags another one coming up hill. A ski lift for cars.
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D C posted:No the plan is you coordinate EV owners at the top and bottom of the hill and turn them into a crude funicular. The one going down hill drags another one coming up hill.
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Just returned from a trip to Iceland and was surprised by the number of Nissan Leafs there. I guess it makes sense considering most don't leave the city center often, or go too far when they do. One thing that caught my interest was the VW UP. Has anyone driven one? I saw exactly one my whole trip.
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There are quite a few of those here, though mostly as Skoda City Go. I haven't driven one by my colleague used to have one and I got a ride once. It felt pretty gutless and cramped in the back, but the front seats were ok for a tiny shitbox I guess. Once you go above the complete poverty spec it isn't that cheap either, so unless you absolutely must have a tiny car, I didn't see a reason to get it over a few year old larger car.
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I just want the Chevy 20 percent off sale to come back so I can get a 2017 Volt for like 4k more than what my 2013 is worth
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Mercedes/Maybach released a new concept... Smug grin? [Check]   20ft length? [Check]   Personalized luggage with custom compartment? [Check]   Super-futuristic, spaceship interior? [Check]   Masterstroke.  If this is built for less than $250k, I will be purchasing it. Never before has a car so enthralled me. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-19/the-new-mercedes-maybach-concept-is-a-20-foot-long-convertible
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They say it's not going into full production.
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Subjunctive posted:They say it's not going into full production. I hope someone takes the hint and does anything remotely similar. A 20ft convertible with 750 horsepower and ultra-lux gt accommodations makes me hot in the pants.
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The Sicilian posted:Mercedes/Maybach released a new concept... I'm gonna cut you off right there.
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Agronox posted:W... How do you park it anywhere That's the valets problem
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Wasn't there another EV design that was wider than a standard road lane or something?
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Agronox posted:W... How do you park it anywhere My car is 19 feet long, nearly 7 feet wide, and has ~4 square inch mirrors. It's not actually that difficult. Leaving is even easier because people rarely choose to park next to you. Subjunctive posted:Wasn't there another EV design that was wider than a standard road lane or something? The Faraday future FF 91 is 90 inches wide. a hummer h1 is 86.5 Powershift fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Aug 21, 2017 |
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Agronox posted:W... How do you park it anywhere The valet will figure that out. Cocoa Crispies posted:I'm gonna cut you off right there. Feel free to get hosed. The thread has been dead. If you want post some content you might have a leg to stand on. In the interim, refer to self-loving I referenced earlier.
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Wow, you are are insufferable.
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The Sicilian posted:The valet will figure that out. Protip dont loving do this idiot.
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That car looks super hot but lol it's a guarantee I'll never gonna see one in person
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Adiabatic posted:Protip dont loving do this idiot. Feel bad for anyone that does 
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FistEnergy posted:That car looks super hot but lol it's a guarantee I'll never gonna see one in person Eh, it looked ok when I saw it yesterday morning at Pebble but not sufficiently special to make me even take a photo of it. And the red coupe version that's in the Mercedes museum in Stuttgart is hideous.
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Goon and Ars writer favorite, Lucid Air, was also at Monterey this past week. To remind you of this car's production schedule: "As of late, they were still guiding a start of production in 2018 despite work stalling at their Arizona plant." Okay, let's see some pics.    Looks like vaporware to me... "Update: Lucid just informed us that they have actually updated their production timeline to 2019." Well, there we have it.
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Subjunctive posted:Any video of the car in motion at speed?
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ilkhan posted:How cute. You think it moves. Didn't they bring one to... congress? Not that long ago?
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eyebeem posted:Didn't they bring one to... congress? Not that long ago? I always confuse this one and the FF91. Is that the one they brought?
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The Sicilian posted:I always confuse this one and the FF91. Is that the one they brought? Bah I'm dumb. Yes, it was the FF. For actual content: Anyone have experience with the i3 REx? Wife wants to replace her Energi, the REx is cheap as gently caress off-lease, and I want to play with one.
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Subjunctive posted:Any video of the car in motion at speed? Yeah, here it is doing 235 mph in testing at TRC in Ohio. What makes this notable IMO (because the road cars will be limited well below that unless you live in Germany) is that it was on a much shorter straight than McLaren used to set a slightly faster time at Ehra-Leissen. BTW, ridiculous troll man, I'm far from alone among my peers when it comes to having a lot of respect for Lucid (Alex Roy is also a big fan). They've done the exact opposite to Faraday, and the prototypes are looking better each day.
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The Sicilian posted:I always confuse this one and the FF91. Is that the one they brought? They're totally different companies. They just happened to both have the same Chinese investor (who isn't much involved in either now AFIAK). And yes, the Air was in DC earlier this year: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/03/tesla-might-have-real-competition-soon-meet-the-lucid-air/
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drgitlin posted:They're totally different companies. They just happened to both have the same Chinese investor (who isn't much involved in either now AFIAK). Neat, I was right!
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drgitlin posted:Yeah, here it is doing 235 mph in testing at TRC in Ohio. Don't see a link, but I'll take your word for it!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aRbhWk99Xk Interior lightened a bit. Having a tall enough diff or a gearbox should be on the agenda for that 'Ring record breaker, it topped out in the final straight.
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Subjunctive posted:Don't see a link, but I'll take your word for it! Oops, forgot to paste the link. Sorry, operating on 3 hours sleep. https://youtu.be/6aRbhWk99Xk
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The Lucid was also at the NY Auto Show. No idea why since they wanted neither orders nor investors.
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Agronox posted:The Lucid was also at the NY Auto Show. No idea why since they wanted neither orders nor investors. rev up that hype train
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drgitlin posted:Yeah, here it is doing 235 mph in testing at TRC in Ohio. What makes this notable IMO (because the road cars will be limited well below that unless you live in Germany) is that it was on a much shorter straight than McLaren used to set a slightly faster time at Ehra-Leissen. We shall see whether either of the dubious, originally Chinese backed, EV makers ever bring a product to market. All I see are slipping deadlines and promises broken.
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drgitlin posted:They're totally different companies. They just happened to both have the same Chinese investor (who isn't much involved in either now AFIAK). The high speed model has no interior. much less that one. I'm seriously in awe of your ability to poo poo on Tesla and its leadership when you have a crazy Chinese man as a main backer for both of these vaporware laden cars, only to walk away.
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