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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Yinlock posted:

stunning revelations: after the collapse of government things are worse

After the collapse of communism things are worse.

There was a general strike, WW1, two revolutions, collectivization, famine, and WW2 between 1905-56, yet a modest average income growth was maintained for all the poorest percentiles of Russian society. The distribution of incomes has everything to do with the economic and political system.

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rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
"where we're going, we don't need...capital"

rudatron fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Aug 13, 2017

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
i write science fiction short stories featuring mostly communists, communists cyborgs, and mormons

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Baloogan posted:

i write science fiction short stories featuring mostly communists, communists cyborgs, and mormons

Post excerpts please.

Rhukatah
Feb 26, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo

Baloogan posted:

i write science fiction short stories featuring mostly communists, communists cyborgs, and mormons

Post them.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
i can't copy paste outta this virtual machine

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
im also gonna go to sleep


guess how some plucky space libertarians and the space communists work together!!!

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
my space cyborgs are like, real communists but they slave away for an ever growing politburo who p much do nothing but live off of the space communist cyborgs work

but the space cyborgs "own" everything but it doesn't matter

i also have space libertarians who live free

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
also my space mormon (did i mention i have space mormon AIs) my space mormon's like moses figure is named mitt

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Baloogan posted:

my space cyborgs are like, real communists but they slave away for an ever growing politburo who p much do nothing but live off of the space communist cyborgs work

but the space cyborgs "own" everything but it doesn't matter

i also have space libertarians who live free

do they also die of trichinosis and untreated water?

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
what kind of hosed up text editor are you using

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

do they also die of trichinosis and untreated water?

no they can refine what water they need from like, space moss or whatever

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

rudatron posted:

what kind of hosed up text editor are you using

don't judge me

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
anyhow the real bad guys are the non-cyborg/non-robot space communists who live in like, luxury space 'communism' but they don't care that their luxury comes at the price of treating their cyborgs like crap

can u detect the analogy?!?!?!?!?! maybe your space luxury communism is p much the worst capitalism you make me and stalin sick sick sick

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
why are you writing in html code

why do you not use commas

I AM JUDGING YOU

I FIND YOU WANTING

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
lol don't even front till u read the romance between a communist cyborg and a space libertarian proprietor

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
do they make cringe worthy politically-themed euphemisms, because you're missing prime material if they don't

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Tell me CommieBorg, do you think love can bloom on un-homesteaded ground?

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
the communist cyborg incredibly hot woman wants to share their love but the burly strong heinleinian space libertarian wants her all to himself and this is the core of the conflict in their story

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
<== To be continued

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G65pvuTFR_A

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Baloogan posted:

no they can refine what water they need from like, space moss or whatever

so trichinosis is definitely in

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

(poisonous to humans) grass

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

nice

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Baloogan posted:

also my space mormon (did i mention i have space mormon AIs) my space mormon's like moses figure is named mitt



the gently caress is loogs doing?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

R. Guyovich posted:

(poisonous to humans) grass

:420:

Darkman Fanpage posted:

the gently caress is loogs doing?

Getting into Kindle erotica

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

writing kindle porn is a mod tradition, and one of the least immoral and illegal of them

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

After the collapse of communism things are worse.

There was a general strike, WW1, two revolutions, collectivization, famine, and WW2 between 1905-56, yet a modest average income growth was maintained for all the poorest percentiles of Russian society. The distribution of incomes has everything to do with the economic and political system.

i just stop debating and post this all the time now

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1646771/pdf/amjph00269-0055.pdf

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

rudatron posted:

"where we're going, we don't need...capital"

my lad, capital is used for exploitation

means of production are used for socialism

cheers

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
you say potato i say pahtato

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Baloogan posted:

you say potato i say pahtato

i will continue to split the hairs

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

After the collapse of communism things are worse.

There was a general strike, WW1, two revolutions, collectivization, famine, and WW2 between 1905-56, yet a modest average income growth was maintained for all the poorest percentiles of Russian society. The distribution of incomes has everything to do with the economic and political system.

the real lol is using income growth to measure living standards in an economy afflicted by constant shortages

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Fallen Hamprince posted:

the real lol is using income growth to measure living standards in an economy afflicted by constant shortages

bra, if you cant read a book read a pamphlet

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1646771/pdf/amjph00269-0055.pdf

read it and put a ridge in that smooth brain of yours

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Top City Homo posted:

bra, if you cant read a book read a pamphlet

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1646771/pdf/amjph00269-0055.pdf

read it and put a ridge in that smooth brain of yours

didn't use statistics from developed western countries because there were and are literally no socialist countries with high enough GNPs to be comparable lmao

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Fallen Hamprince posted:

didn't use statistics from developed western countries because there were and are literally no socialist countries with high enough GNPs to be comparable lmao

the income of an oil sheikh/hedge fund manager is irrelevant to determining the quality of life of the average person living in a market economy vs a socialist economy

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Top City Homo posted:

the income of an oil sheikh/hedge fund manager is irrelevant to determining the quality of life of the average person living in a market economy vs a socialist economy

how else would fallen hamprince, a moron, be able to contextualize it tho

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Top City Homo posted:

the income of an oil sheikh/hedge fund manager is irrelevant to determining the quality of life of the average person living in a market economy vs a socialist economy

socialism produces such fantastic living standards and economic growth that the USSR and the eastern bloc can only be fairly compared to such champions of capitalism as uruguay and algeria, l loving mao

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Top City Homo posted:

the income of an oil sheikh/hedge fund manager is irrelevant to determining the quality of life of the average person living in a market economy vs a socialist economy

the highest income group of socialist countries perform worse than high-income capitalist ones in every metric lol

e: all the stats for 'quality of life' are health and education-based, so it's conclusions basically amount to 'countries with public education and universal healthcare have better education and health outcomes then those that don't', something obvious to literally everyone in the developed world except the US apparently

Fallen Hamprince fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Aug 13, 2017

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Fallen Hamprince posted:

socialism produces such fantastic living standards and economic growth that the USSR and the eastern bloc can only be fairly compared to such champions of capitalism as uruguay and algeria,

what are you even arguing dog?

Minty
May 3, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Fallen Hamprince posted:

the highest income group of socialist countries perform worse than high-income capitalist ones in every metric lol

That strikes me as a feature, not a drawback

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Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Fallen Hamprince posted:

the highest income group of socialist countries perform worse than high-income capitalist ones in every metric lol

e: all the stats for 'quality of life' are health and education-based, so it's conclusions basically amount to 'countries with public education and universal healthcare have better education and health outcomes then those that don't', something obvious to literally everyone in the developed world except the US apparently

sounds good

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