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A gem can't just become a star, stars are massive balls of flaming gas millions of kilometres away #urukscience
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sassassin posted:A gem can't just become a star, stars are massive balls of flaming gas millions of kilometres away #urukscience  the bright stars are telperion syrup
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Aug 6, 2017 17:58
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skasion posted:It's somewhere in the early books of History of Middle Earth, Lays of Beleriand maybe? Rateliff covers it in The History of The Hobbit too, IIRC
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Aug 6, 2017 21:54
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I was reading that Sauron blog linked earlier in the thread and there was mention that some elf dudes who had been to Valinor and back had brought wine with them in addition to tales of magic trees and etc. Is this a canon detail, and if so is it meant to connect with the whole idea of pipe-weed being a synedoche for the Istari's corruption by the earthly delights of Middle-Earth?
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Aug 10, 2017 09:12
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Pipe weed was a Numenorean crop, although the people of Middle Earth were the first to smoke it.
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Aug 10, 2017 11:01
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Why was it a "crop" then?
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Aug 10, 2017 11:17
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It was fragrant wild herb. It isn't clear that the Numenoreans cultivated it.
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Aug 10, 2017 12:01
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Data Graham posted:Why was it a "crop" then? Chewing tobacco/dip.
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Aug 10, 2017 12:03
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Ah, right.
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Aug 10, 2017 12:06
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Edibles. I mean unless we actually believe it's tobacco
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Aug 10, 2017 23:49
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Pipe weed is very clearly tobacco in the books and marihuana in the Jackson films
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Aug 10, 2017 23:58
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haha weed lol Wouldn't it be funny if they were high XD
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Aug 11, 2017 01:37
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What if it's hemp and the numenoreans grew it for rope
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Aug 11, 2017 02:40
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You know they'd have wanted it, if they hadn't had it.
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Aug 11, 2017 02:45
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Well, I mean, you pick: either Gandalf was fond of the occasional toke, or Numenor was teeming with semi-immortal hicks and their gross dip cups. I can see a couple of hobbits kicking up their heels with a pipe of cannabis and Saruman's best snacks in the watery ruins of Isengard, but it is really hard to imagine Tar-Palantir, elf-friend and follower of the old ways, spitting a brown missile of chaw runoff into the bushes as he tended the White Tree with his doomed daughter tucking a lipful at his side.
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Aug 11, 2017 03:08
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Why not both? Tobacco and weed are both two totally different farmables y'all
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Aug 11, 2017 03:09
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Numenoreans clearly vaped
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Aug 11, 2017 03:43
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elise the great posted:Well, I mean, you pick: either Gandalf was fond of the occasional toke, or Numenor was teeming with semi-immortal hicks and their gross dip cups. I can see a couple of hobbits kicking up their heels with a pipe of cannabis and Saruman's best snacks in the watery ruins of Isengard, but it is really hard to imagine Tar-Palantir, elf-friend and follower of the old ways, spitting a brown missile of chaw runoff into the bushes as he tended the White Tree with his doomed daughter tucking a lipful at his side. Why do you think Elrond didn't want Aragorn around his daughter?
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Aug 11, 2017 03:45
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skasion posted:Numenoreans clearly vaped This, I feel, is the answer.
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Aug 11, 2017 03:53
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Aug 11, 2017 04:21
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I think it's interesting to consider the real world history of tobacco in Europe. Like consider that native Americans had been smoking tobacco and using it in the culture for at least like 3,000 years prior to European discovery of the plant.
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Aug 11, 2017 05:39
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skasion posted:Numenoreans clearly vaped And in the topmost of the dome there was a louver, whence there issued a great smoke, smelling of Concord Grape and Key Lime Pie
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Aug 11, 2017 10:22
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skasion posted:Numenoreans clearly vaped New post sub-title please.
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Aug 11, 2017 15:20
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Actual legit question: What kind of livestock do hobbits keep? They must have access to some kind of dairy animal. Goats? Sheep? Can you milk sheep?Ynglaur posted:New post sub-title please. 
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Aug 13, 2017 16:39
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PMush Perfect posted:Actual legit question: What kind of livestock do hobbits keep? They must have access to some kind of dairy animal. Goats? Sheep? Can you milk sheep? Of course you can, have you never had like manchego or anything? We know hobbits keep ponies for pack-animals and occasionally riding. Given that they have a nonsense-rhyme about the cow jumping over the moon, I presume they keep cattle, and if cattle then why not any other sort of livestock?
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Aug 13, 2017 16:50
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skasion posted:Of course you can, have you never had like manchego or anything? I can't recall the exact quote but part of the Shirrifs' duties were wrangling and returning strayed farm animals. So they did keep some livestock, but I don't think the species is ever noted.
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Aug 13, 2017 17:15
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Remember that historic animal breeds were overall smaller than modern ones, too. And hobbits.might have bred dwarf versions.
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Aug 13, 2017 17:17
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Lemniscate Blue posted:I can't recall the exact quote but part of the Shirrifs' duties were wrangling and returning strayed farm animals. So they did keep some livestock, but I don't think the species is ever noted. quote:The Shirriffs was the name that the Hobbits gave to their police, or the nearest equivalent that they possessed. They had, of course, no uniforms (such things being quite unknown), only a feather in their caps; and they were in practice rather haywards than policemen, more concerned with the strayings of beasts than of people.
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Aug 13, 2017 17:47
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Based on Bilbo's pantry they have all the traditional English farmyard animals.
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Aug 13, 2017 17:52
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PMush Perfect posted:Actual legit question: What kind of livestock do hobbits keep? They must have access to some kind of dairy animal. Goats? Sheep? Can you milk sheep? They live in England dude. Have you been to Britain? The answer is sheep.
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Aug 13, 2017 18:01
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Thank you!
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Aug 13, 2017 20:27
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thread title is the best. thank you mods
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Aug 13, 2017 20:54
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Why Shelob is a sexy lady in Shadow of War
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Aug 15, 2017 16:03
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i want to gently caress the spider
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Aug 15, 2017 16:06
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not going to click that link but im gonna guess it's because spiders don't have breasts
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Aug 15, 2017 16:11
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skasion posted:not going to click that link but im gonna guess it's because spiders don't have breasts The guy said it's because Shelob can take any form that she wants because she's a spirit, and that she's basically the mirror image to Galadriel (she's a darkness sexy lady instead of a light sexy lady). Also, she and Gollum plotted to take down Sauron which is why Frodo and Sam passed Shelob's Lair
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Aug 15, 2017 16:25
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i will gently caress the spider
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Aug 15, 2017 16:30
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Ungoliant and Shelob were not spiders but I guess that was a decent justification.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:38
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Smoking Crow posted:The guy said it's because Shelob can take any form that she wants because she's a spirit, and that she's basically the mirror image to Galadriel (she's a darkness sexy lady instead of a light sexy lady). Also, she and Gollum plotted to take down Sauron which is why Frodo and Sam passed Shelob's Lair lol quote:Little she knew of or cared for towers, or rings, or anything devised by mind or hand, who only desired death for all others, mind and body, and for herself a glut of life, alone, swollen till the mountains could no longer hold her up and the darkness could not contain her.
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Look it's hard enough getting women into lord of the rings .
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