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Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

Covok posted:

What happened in Seattle? Who won?

Angels won after a two run RBI in the fifth.

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farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Leofish posted:

Like, the poem that people quote isn't just some quaint little notion.


THIS poo poo ACTUALLY HAPPENED. The socialists, trade unionists, and Jews were LITERALLY KILLED.

It should be pointed out it isn't hyperbole. The author was literally sent to a concentration camp in 1937. After the war he was one if the aigners of the Sttutgart declaration of guilt.

farraday fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Aug 14, 2017

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

cool arguments from fascist enabler pkay ITT

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Azhais posted:

Malcolm X also preached that whites were devils, blacks were superior to whites, and the white race was dying out. Not exactly an endearing message either.

Malcolm X is (uniquely? under the circumstances?) separable from first-generation Nation of Islam weirdness, as are his strategic recommendations for the most part.

He's frankly an intensely interesting character and his autobiography is Required Reading.

Edit: hadn't read the rest of your post yet

My statements stand but also you are kind of an rear end and wrong

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Giggy posted:

This is a good argument actually. Nazis are inherently self destructive and violent.

Now perhaps for another question and derail - Does the Klan have views on the endgame political structure of their ideal society? Is it fascist or just democracy with only white people.

I swear back in the day the Klan and neo Nazis hated each other mainly because the Klan is pro Christian and Nazis aren't.

The klan is all about keeping black people second-class citizens by taking away their rights and intimidating them. It's purely a local-level thing that's not compatible to electoral strategy and it doesn't scale up to the national level.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

Whole thread is good but this is the best response

https://twitter.com/keegannyc/status/896875366081470467

pkay
Jan 4, 2005
"You and your ilk just made me vote downticket R in the midterms."
- a black man (- a magachud)

The Cheshire Cat posted:

You mean like by say, showing up to "peaceful" protests armed with assault rifles, or deliberately driving cars into crowds of counter-protesters?

So the solution is to go punch Nazis? Does that stop them from showing up to protest with assault rifles? Nope, they probably bring more. Does that stop them driving into counter-protesters? I would say no. You know what does stop that, by sending them and anyone involved with the car attack to prison. Want them to stop showing up to protest with assault rifles, change the laws in your state. I am in a state that is really red, but suprisingly you can't show up to demonstrations/protest with firearms. That is from civil rights era history im sure, but you might be able to push that initiative in your state. Punching a person that might be a nazi but who is not physically threatening you at that moment (tired of bullshit nazis are a threat by existing arguments) isn't self-defense.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

Carlosologist posted:

Whole thread is good but this is the best response

https://twitter.com/keegannyc/status/896875366081470467

How did I not expect this. :rolleyes: Yesterday, off the cuff, minutes after it happened, an anchor on FOXNEWS called this terrorism.

KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Aug 14, 2017

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

Azhais posted:

Malcolm X also preached that whites were devils, blacks were superior to whites, and the white race was dying out. Not exactly an endearing message either.

Personally I prefer to look up to people like Dr King and Gandhi and their views on cultural change. The only reason people are able to bring up the "violence on both sides" of Charlottesville is because there was violence on both sides. Had the counter protesters just showed up and been attacked and not fought back the whole narrative would be different.

Hit tip: next time you feel like invoking King, read the Letter from a Birmingham Jail instead.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

pkay posted:

When they initiate a violent altercation

I've got some good news then

Koalas March
May 21, 2007




Scalding. ☕🐸

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Carlosologist posted:

Whole thread is good but this is the best response

https://twitter.com/keegannyc/status/896875366081470467

:drat:

Also, initially I thought those were protesters who were marching in solidarity with the Nazis in VA. But OF COURSE, the NYPD shows up when it's people on the other side.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Carlosologist posted:

Whole thread is good but this is the best response

https://twitter.com/keegannyc/status/896875366081470467

Fox News is bad but this is kinda edgy to some media intern

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
After seeing the "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in Anti-Facism" I googled to find out who said it, and it looks like it was from Sinclair Lewis, but according to the website of the Sinclair Lewis Society he didn't actually say it.

Not surprised Nazi fucks trying to use it to go "No THEY'RE the real fascists!"

BakedAlaska should look Julius Streicher, and what his fate was. Eye damage is the least he deserves.

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Carlosologist posted:

Whole thread is good but this is the best response

https://twitter.com/keegannyc/status/896875366081470467

Stop. I can only get so erect.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Another Internet Success Story

https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/896867461542412288

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

pkay posted:

(tired of bullshit nazis are a threat by existing arguments)

Do you not know what Nazis are?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset




Nope. Sorry. My mistake. I can get even more erect.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dapper_Swindler posted:

that pictures has always given me chills. i always wonder who the victim is, or if the nazi killing him is dead. did he get gutted horribly on the eastern front, or did he live out his days in ilgotten comfort.

It was a picture from an Einsatzgruppen soldier’s personal album, labelled on the back as “Last Jew of Vinnitsa”. It shows a member of Einsatzgruppe D just about to shoot a Jewish man kneeling before a filled mass grave in Vinnitsa, Ukraine, in 1941. The dude lived his life in comfort, and his kids donated his photo album to the museum. The victim is Jewish, and that was his only crime.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

That dude proves anyone holding a fish on a profile picture is a piece of poo poo.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

The Cheshire Cat posted:

Yes but on the other hand the more openly they associate with white supremacy, the less centrists are going to be swayed by all the typical pre-election bullshit they peddle about how "both sides are really the same, you guys". There's a reason why they still rely on dog whistles to reach their white supremacist base - because that base isn't nearly big enough to win them elections on their own, and they know that the voters that will get them over the line will find their beliefs repugnant if they describe them honestly.

There are no more "centrists" outside of the Morning Joe green room. That doesn't describe any real voters.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

doxxed by the neck moles again....what a world

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Shaun King was a bit of a Bernie of Bust guy but he's doing the Lord's work here.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
Rally which isn't being decimated by armored motorcade outside Trump Tower

https://www.facebook.com/NUVONews/videos/10155589237043749/?hc_ref=ARRwjPCXhSW8beQsQ9l8uV2VPmL-lwzekdt9EX8TuTyw1lH9cYMIs6kP831BEmZNtZg

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
This is what happened in that picture, a journal from the same man:

quote:

The result of this proclamation was, of course, that all persons concerned appeared as ordered. This relatively harmless summons, it was thought, could be connected in some way or other with the preparations we were observing. It was because we took the matter so lightly that we were all the more horrified at what we witnessed during the next few hours.

One row of Jews was ordered to move forward and was then allocated to the different tables where they had to undress completely and hand over everything they wore and carried.

Some still carried jewellery which they had to put on the table. Then having taken off all their clothes, they were made to stand in line in front of the ditches, irrespective of their sex.

The commandos then marched in behind the line and began to perform the inhuman acts, the horror of which is now known to the whole world. With automatic pistols and 0.8 pistols these men mowed down the line with such zealous intent that one could have supposed this activity to have been their life work.


The people in the first row thus having been killed in the most inhuman manner, those of the second row were now ordered to step forward. The men in this row were ordered to step out and were handed shovels with which to heap chloride of lime upon the still partly moving bodies in the ditch. Thereafter they returned to the tables and undressed.

After that they had to set out on the same last walk as their murdered brethren …

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Shaun King was a bit of a Bernie of Bust guy but he's doing the Lord's work here.

Hey man. We might knife fight with one another when we're bored, but we'll definitely knife fight Nazis. Hard to stand shoulder to shoulder about what you love, but easy to stand shoulder to shoulder against people you hate.

Knife fight.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Please, Internet, keep this up.

pkay
Jan 4, 2005
"You and your ilk just made me vote downticket R in the midterms."
- a black man (- a magachud)

Peacoffee posted:

Well, aren't you just a gosh darn selfish prick. Protecting your family isnt that brave really since most white men view the rest as an extension of them. Its just your own rear end, or your most basic parental duty. Protecting someone elses kid from that violence when you could otherwise avoid it all, is brave. No accolades for people who have such a hard time getting out of themselves that they think protecting their fuckin family is enough. I doubt you live in some stateless zone, so protect the god drat society that allowed you get to this point. Your beliefs seem founded from within that worst core american idea that we are exceptional to everything.

Or that is who I would be protecting most of the time. Obviously, if I see some kid playing in traffic or getting attack by an adult I am going to do something. But if two grown rear end men are fighting and I know neither of them I am not jumping into that situation and I am going to call security/police. If I see someone breaking into my neighbor's house, I am going to do something.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



I don't like the culture of doxxing and shaming on the internet. In a lot of cases, I think it's gotten out of hand and needlessly ruined people's lives. But I have no such concern for this human scum. You lie with dogs, you get fleas. I don't necessarily want their lives to be irrevocably ruined (except for Field. gently caress him), but I want them to learn a harsh life lesson about what happens when you ally yourself with Nazi rabble rousers.

Keep up the good work, internet.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Aug 14, 2017

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Shaun King was a bit of a Bernie of Bust guy but he's doing the Lord's work here.

The COMMIE KILLER painted onto the helmet just seals this up.

Otherwise, these are like watching David Attenbourough describe the larval stages of a juggalo.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

pkay posted:

So the solution is to go punch Nazis? Does that stop them from showing up to protest with assault rifles? Nope, they probably bring more. Does that stop them driving into counter-protesters? I would say no. You know what does stop that, by sending them and anyone involved with the car attack to prison. Want them to stop showing up to protest with assault rifles, change the laws in your state. I am in a state that is really red, but suprisingly you can't show up to demonstrations/protest with firearms. That is from civil rights era history im sure, but you might be able to push that initiative in your state. Punching a person that might be a nazi but who is not physically threatening you at that moment (tired of bullshit nazis are a threat by existing arguments) isn't self-defense.

It does plenty. It shows them that there are consequences to that kind of vileness. It reminds them that the real world is not a /pol board where the loudest rear end in a top hat wins by rallying the other assholes. It robs them of their image of strength when anyone can see them weeping for milk online instead of intimidating everyone with their torches. It heartens people who feel lost and vulnerable as discourse that victimizes and bullies them doesn't go blindly echoed and normalized. Just a few months ago most of the media were doing tepid "So, who are these trendy alt-right types in town?" pieces. Now the lines are drawn, no matter how much some may want to muddy the issue.

This is taking NIMBY-ism to a bizarre extreme.

"Yeah, the blackshirts dragged my latino neighbours out of their home and set it on fire, but they didn't harm me or mine. I got my gun when the wind seemed about to change and send the embers to my house, but then it didn't so I just made a concerned post on Instagram."

Peacoffee
Feb 11, 2013


pkay posted:

Or that is who I would be protecting most of the time. Obviously, if I see some kid playing in traffic or getting attack by an adult I am going to do something. But if two grown rear end men are fighting and I know neither of them I am not jumping into that situation and I am going to call security/police. If I see someone breaking into my neighbor's house, I am going to do something.

So you think "love thy neighbor" meant Bill or Linda next door?

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

Blitz7x posted:

[quote="mcmagic" post="475342924"]
There are no more "centrists" outside of the Morning Joe green room. That doesn't describe any real voters.

Nah, this is crap. You believe this because you spend your time on places like SA where everyone is either a nazi or for murdering nazis in the streets. The average voter is absolutely a "centrist" of the type you despise. The average voter Likes this McCain tweet:

https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/896515795114766337

I'm guessing those 90k likes don't make any sense to you, because McCain is a nazi traitor who should be executed? Exactly.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Ohio, you are definitely not invited to my pizza party.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

pkay posted:

They have always been there. Which if you acknowledge systemic racism isn't a surprise.

Their presence and influences ebbs and flows, as does the necessary level of force.

For example, during the Civil Rights era, an incredible amount of threat and violence was required for the peaceful movement's success.

And in recent years, they've been on the upswing.

Spiffster
Oct 7, 2009

I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...


Lipstick Apathy

Thanks Indy :unsmith:

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

farraday posted:

It should be pointed out it isn't hyperbole. The author was literally sent to a concentration camp in 1937. After the war he was one if the aigners of the Sttutgart declaration of guilt.

Yes. Niemöller barely survived the Holocaust himself. He wasn't against Hitler and the Nazis from the start, but because he wasn't 100% on board they eventually locked him up too.

Stuttgart Declaration of Guilt posted:

Through us infinite wrong was brought over many peoples and countries. That which we often testified to in our communities, we express now in the name of the whole church: We did fight for long years in the name of Jesus Christ against the mentality that found its awful expression in the National Socialist regime of violence; but we accuse ourselves for not standing to our beliefs more courageously, for not praying more faithfully, for not believing more joyously, and for not loving more ardently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_Declaration_of_Guilt

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Oxxidation posted:

Ohio, you are definitely not invited to my pizza party.

Ohio can come if it pees on both a confederate and Nazi flag. Never too late to change.

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mdemone
Mar 14, 2001


loving spectacular. Have any others in that photo been identified?

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