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Pakled posted:1947, actually. But still. Thanks for this.
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evilweasel posted:this argument is why the word 'imminent' is in there The nazis with guns and body armor make the threat imminent
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Xae posted:Being a Nazi is incitement to imminent lawless action. Okay. Imagine you want to have a BLM rally. Shithead: "The core ideology of BLM is white genocide, they're protesting to support destroying our culture and our children's future". And before you protest yes I know those arguments aren't really equivalent. But weakening first amendment protections will introduce enough muck to allow smart but evil right wing lawyers (think Ted Cruz) to do things that I promise you will not like.
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evilweasel posted:this argument is why the word 'imminent' is in there Genocide being a crime with a scale that implies a longer timeline than usual could mean that technically, despite the obviously heinous intent of these folks, it's still legal because we'd have time to prepare. I'm guessing that's what you're saying? Seems like the system comes down to this: yeah we can see the obvious intent and nightmarish thing for this group but because they chose a complicated thing we're going to allow them to have the ability to project their platform, attract new members, and scare people because that's their right. If that's the case, fine, but that's a poo poo system and it needs to be fixed.
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Ogmius815 posted:Okay. Imagine you want to have a BLM rally. ACLU was against moving the rally for safety concerns, which were clearly well-founded. Whatever else they've done, they hosed this up bad and deserve the scorn
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Covok posted:Don't link that. It boils my blood. https://twitter.com/GoDaddy/status/896935462622957573 Apparently godaddy was shocked, shocked, to find out the Daily Stormer was using their hosting service for their poo poo.
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Ogmius815 posted:Okay. Imagine you want to have a BLM rally. The problem is you are pretending that things are equal now, and that changing some law to loving stomp Nazis would make it harder for other groups. That's bullshit, other groups already get massively increased police intervention in comparison to white supremacists. Protest Trump and you'll be locked down right quick, say all the Jews should be shipped out of the country and start beating on black kids and you'll get a hands off policy. So why are you pretending that anyone needs an excuse to gently caress over groups like BLM if they want to? They already *are*. Meanwhile Nazis have been effectively hiding behind the First Amendment for decades. Maybe it's ok to turn the heat up on them, and there isn't a reasonable fear of a slippery slope because everyone not a privileged white motherfucker has already been rolled down that slope and is living in the poo poo.
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Casey Finnigan posted:ACLU was against moving the rally for safety concerns, which were clearly well-founded. Whatever else they've done, they hosed this up bad and deserve the scorn No actually the local government hosed it up when they tried to move the rally to a less prominent location but didn't move the counter rally.
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I'm noticing that the many of the goons who are cool with state encroachments on speech and demonstration are the same people who are squeamish about someone putting a bullet in the head of a Nazi. Liberalism is beyond obsolete.
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Ogmius815 posted:No actually the local government hosed it up when they tried to move the rally to a less prominent location but didn't move the counter rally. Well gee one of the nazis from the rally drove a loving car into the counter rally so maybe that would have been a decent precaution to take. the guys who are known for advocating violent genocide as their ONLY goal besides total control of the government, turned out to be violent when they encountered people who disagreed Casey Finnigan fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Aug 14, 2017 |
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/GoDaddy/status/896935462622957573 Nazis on your server? It's more likely than you think.
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/GoDaddy/status/896935462622957573 At least they are making an effort now instead of continuing to 
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/GoDaddy/status/896935462622957573 Someone please snatch this up and turn it into an amazing meteorology page.
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coyo7e posted:The thing is that in America unions are really no longer a thing unless you are an emergency service worker or are still a member of one of the grand old corrupt unions. The GOCU if you will. Their power level is... Yeah you get the idea This pun was worth the set up. 
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I just realized what the videos of Kessler being chased out of town reminded me of, the end of O Brother Where Art Thou where they run Homer Stokes out of town on a rail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypW9ptwviRU
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Spiffster posted:At least they are making an effort now instead of continuing to Better now than never. take me you ANIMAL posted:Someone please snatch this up and turn it into an amazing meteorology page. 
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Red Baron posted:Genocide being a crime with a scale that implies a longer timeline than usual could mean that technically, despite the obviously heinous intent of these folks, it's still legal because we'd have time to prepare. I'm guessing that's what you're saying? The system is not broken; it relies on an informed free citizenry to function...and in the broadest sense - in this thread - it's working. We are outraged. Some in here to the point of considering violence, but outraged; and while I have expressed my own concerns about how we should be a nation of laws and not men most especially at such a time, I'd be a hell of a lot more concerned if there arose a consensus or an acceptance that these heinous shitstains maybe had not such a bad point-of-view about how the country should run. Not seeing that anywhere. This will not stand. It could be the beginning of the end for Trump.
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twistedmentat posted:I just realized what the videos of Kessler being chased out of town reminded me of, the end of O Brother Where Art Thou where they run Homer Stokes out of town on a rail sync that poo poo up someone please.
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/GoDaddy/status/896935462622957573 Uh huh, uh huh. And, uh, what kind of story does the Daily Stormer normally run?  This reads like something out of alternative history fiction.
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twistedmentat posted:I just realized what the videos of Kessler being chased out of town reminded me of, the end of O Brother Where Art Thou where they run Homer Stokes out of town on a rail take me you ANIMAL posted:sync that poo poo up someone please. Gif it and yakety-sax it? http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=h...t2=&authorName= (okay, URL showing up now) glowing-fish fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Aug 14, 2017 |
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PainterofCrap posted:The system is not broken; it relies on an informed free citizenry to function...and in the broadest sense - in this thread - it's working. Sadly the citizenry is dumber than it was a few years ago on average. Not tongue in cheek either. The old reading level used to be tenth grade. It's fallen (depending on where you live) to between seventh and ninth.
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Mulva posted:The problem is you are pretending that things are equal now, and that changing some law to loving stomp Nazis would make it harder for other groups. That's bullshit, other groups already get massively increased police intervention in comparison to white supremacists. Protest Trump and you'll be locked down right quick, say all the Jews should be shipped out of the country and start beating on black kids and you'll get a hands off policy. So why are you pretending that anyone needs an excuse to gently caress over groups like BLM if they want to? They already *are*. Meanwhile Nazis have been effectively hiding behind the First Amendment for decades. Maybe it's ok to turn the heat up on them, and there isn't a reasonable fear of a slippery slope because everyone not a privileged white motherfucker has already been rolled down that slope and is living in the poo poo. And you're pretending our white supremacist president wouldn't pass something generic
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PainterofCrap posted:The system is not broken; it relies on an informed free citizenry to function...and in the broadest sense - in this thread - it's working. I really think the telling moment will come with whatever happens next. If the right fucks it up, that's a perhaps terminal blow. If the left fucks up, or if it can somehow be spun to look that way, things get a bit murkier. I think we're still deeper in the woods than we think.
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take me you ANIMAL posted:sync that poo poo up someone please. I also just realized that works even better because Stokes was shown to be a Grand Wizard of the Klan.
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Mulva posted:The problem is you are pretending that things are equal now, and that changing some law to loving stomp Nazis would make it harder for other groups. That's bullshit, other groups already get massively increased police intervention in comparison to white supremacists. Protest Trump and you'll be locked down right quick, say all the Jews should be shipped out of the country and start beating on black kids and you'll get a hands off policy. So why are you pretending that anyone needs an excuse to gently caress over groups like BLM if they want to? They already *are*. Meanwhile Nazis have been effectively hiding behind the First Amendment for decades. Maybe it's ok to turn the heat up on them, and there isn't a reasonable fear of a slippery slope because everyone not a privileged white motherfucker has already been rolled down that slope and is living in the poo poo. Things are already bad, and therefore they can't get worse. Got it.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:I'm noticing that the many of the goons who are cool with state encroachments on speech and demonstration are the same people who are squeamish about someone putting a bullet in the head of a Nazi. Liberalism is beyond obsolete. Look dude, most people here aren't killers or fighters and don't want to be. Peace and justice is the natural state to strive for. I would like to spend most of my time on math and science instead of in pitched street battles with Nazis. If I have to, then I'll do it to protect everyone and make sure the Nazis stay buried... but seriously, no one here is really dying to go out and die. This lack of bloodlust is perfectly normal for decent human beings. Unlike the far right, we didn't spend the last 20 loving years stroking our dicks with our guns, wondering when we could re-enact every scene out of Dirty Harry.
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Weirdly when I asked here earlier, nobody answered about why militias showed up to Charlottesville in the first place.
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R. Guyovich posted:i dont think so tim OK, what the gently caress do you suppose happened to Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia? And who's Tim?
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Azhais posted:And you're pretending our white supremacist president wouldn't pass something generic It's not up to him, the House and Senate can make something veto proof and being against white supremacists is a slam dunk in PR terms. And both groups wouldn't mind a PR win. theflyingorc posted:Things are already bad, and therefore they can't get worse. Got it. Do nothing, I'm afraid. - An American hero. Mulva fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Aug 14, 2017 |
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coyo7e posted:Weirdly when I asked here earlier, nobody answered about why militias showed up to Charlottesville in the first place. They're nazis too
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theflyingorc posted:this is a really big deal. The Three Percenters are nutjobs. Them stepping back means that the Nazis messed up, bad. Can you put it into perspective for those of us who don't know about the group?
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coyo7e posted:Weirdly when I asked here earlier, nobody answered about why militias showed up to Charlottesville in the first place. The militia movement is in so deep with white supremacy that they're near synonymous.
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Ratoslov posted:The militia movement is in so deep with white supremacy that they're near synonymous. Yeah I understand the obvious answer it just seems like some journalists out there ought to be able to get a decent write-up about it.
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Kammat posted:So who will be Ernst Rohm and the Brownshirts for Trump's Night of the Long Knives? Kekistani anime Nazis will be assassinated first. Ironically, they're the most "degenerate" of the bunch, in the eyes of actual Nazis.
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coyo7e posted:Weirdly when I asked here earlier, nobody answered about why militias showed up to Charlottesville in the first place. 'to keep the peace' aka let nazis and racists demonstrate as they please. they are absolutely aligned with nazis and this is a pathetic walkback
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