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cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
as people have stated I appreciate how everyone ranging north of the wall have very good reasons both to massively distrust each other, it makes up for how dumb their whole plan is

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Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
So here's my random end-game prediction: Bronn goes on about wanting a loving castle, and in his introduction mentioned he's been north of the wall. I think the ironic end for Bronn would be for him to inherit 7 castles.... the castles on the wall.

I really do think him having been north will play in soon though. Given his reaction to Dragons, I bet he saw some White Walker poo poo and bailed on the night's watch or something years ago.

Mister Perky posted:

The wight they capture as proof will be Jorah, who volunteers to be it when he's mortally wounded

That's a pretty good guess. Somebody's dying soon.

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.
What's the Jorah printer carrying thing a reference to?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Also has it been said that Dany is The Worst™ now?

I mean we all saw the show trying to give her a heel turn but this is really not working for me. She's just becoming increasingly stuck up and borderline crazy kinda out of nowhere.

Just when she starts to look a bit more human in one scene she starts demanding 'Bend the knee!!' a second later.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




cargo cult posted:

as people have stated I appreciate how everyone ranging north of the wall have very good reasons both to massively distrust each other, it makes up for how dumb their whole plan is

well right now its north vs. south with the dead coming for everyone but north and south don't really believe the tertiary force exists

together everyone may have a chance, the north alone has no chance, Dany could help their cause but cannot leave her position without being harried and harassed by Cersei forces

the least they could do is get Cersei to stand down so Dany can move her forces to the wall and maybe Cersei would be contented thinking the dead would buttfuck them all if they actually do exist and Cersei can pick up the pieces without having to deal with dragons and dothraki

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

-Blackadder- posted:

What's the Jorah printer carrying thing a reference to?

Legendary story of some friendzoned guy who carried the girl's printer for her.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Okay you guys gotta fill me in, I get that he's Ser Friendzone but what's the printer joke about?

Constant posted:

well right now its north vs. south with the dead coming for everyone but north and south don't really believe the tertiary force exists

together everyone may have a chance, the north alone has no chance, Dany could help their cause but cannot leave her position without being harried and harassed by Cersei forces

the least they could do is get Cersei to stand down so Dany can move her forces to the wall and maybe Cersei would be contented thinking the dead would buttfuck them all if they actually do exist and Cersei can pick up the pieces without having to deal with dragons and dothraki

Peace with Cersei is a very fun plot but I can't imagine it ending well. This is a scorpion and frog situation. Cersei gonna Cersei.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Zaphod42 posted:

Okay you guys gotta fill me in, I get that he's Ser Friendzone but what's the printer joke about?

It's what it says on the tin, but here's the full story.

Borky posted:

A loose female acquaintance of mine calls me at 1:00am today and asks me if I could print something on the computer for her and bring it over in the afternoon. "Hey yeah sure sure, whatever you need I'll help you, I'm all yours," I tell her. She sends me this file and lo and behold I can't open it. It's made in Microsoft Publisher and I don't have that program so I begin panicing, trying to find this program or a way to print the file. Scouring the internet yields no results and I do my usual pacing in my room.

I finally come up with an idea and I tell the girl, if I can proceed with it. The plan was I would carry my printer about 2miles to her house, print out the needed pages, maybe talk to her a bit while I was there. I was hoping for at least a hug out of this ordeal.

By the time I get there, I'm wet all over from sweating in the +90 degree heat outside and carrying a heavy motherfucking HP Deskjet printer. The first thing I see upon entering her room (my first time in a girl's bedroom) are some panties on her bed.

After the initial shock of seeing such a horrific sight for the first time, I setup the printer and get my job done. However, I did consider sniffing the lingere when she left the room once, but with the wuss that I am, I just ended up staring at them the whole while. That was a sarcastic joke for those of you too stupid to realize that

To make a long story short, just as I was finishing up with the printing job (which was hefty), her boyfriend and his gay friend walk in, say hello, and begin hanging out in the room as they waited for the girl to finish this work so they could go to the mall.

This effectively ruins my chances of getting a hug and I walk another 2 miles home with the motherfucking printer in hand. The only thing that I got out of this were some very painful fingers and a "thanks" as I walked out her bedroom door.

So, am I pathetic for doing all these things? It wouldn't be the first time I've pledged my heart and soul to a girl and gotten back almost nothing in return. I would hate turning her or anyone else I knew down or making up some lie.

HoneyBoy
Oct 12, 2012

get murked son
This hack poo poo writing is so loving lazy and retarded

Whatever, just give me the next episode before I piss meself

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Oh and speaking of the pacing this season, how did the meeting between Bronn and Tyrion get arranged so suddenly? Presumably a lot happened offscreen. Cersei somehow was informed of it but we weren't. How would he just find Bronn? It would not have been part of the smuggling plan, as Davos didn't know Bronn and was busy in fleabottom anyway.

Happy Thread fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Aug 14, 2017

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Jeb! Repetition posted:

It's what it says on the tin, but here's the full story.

"I was hoping for at least a hug out of this ordeal."

Wow, this is like pure concentrated awful. I would hope its fake but...probably legit, people are awful.

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Oh and speaking of the pacing this season, how did the meeting between Bronn and Tyrion get arranged so suddenly? Presumably a lot happened offscreen. Cersei somehow was informed of it but we weren't. How would he just find Bronn? It would not have been part of the smuggling plan, as Davos didn't know Bronn and was busy in fleabottom anyway.

Eh, Bronn was his man in King's Landing for at least a year or two right? He probably just checked out Bronn's favorite watering holes or brothels.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Maybe Varys is actually doing poo poo.

ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill
Guys, I think Jon might be a Targaryen.


But seriously, I really enjoyed this episode. The show is so fast paced now, and I have other reservations, but I'm just grateful to be getting some sort of conclusion to this story. The past few weeks, I've read and watched more about the fan theories, and felt genuine joy and wonder about them than I have in years. It's kind of amazing to think that events I've wondered about for so long--the Stark sisters reuniting, the Lannister brothers reuniting--are happening. I wish we had more episodes, but even if we did, and they were perfect, they would still never be perfect. Business ventures of this size have so many spinning plates, it's impossible to be flawless.

One boneheaded move I do want to mention: It's odd that those on Dragonstone had Tyrion go to King's Landing but nobody mentioned Yara or the Dorne women. Theon was just there asking about getting her back. At the very least, a quick comment to Tyrion about keeping an eye out for any information on them. I also LOL'd because while I was wondering about how the great smuggler Davos would get Tyrion into KL, the next scene had them strolling on the beach. If this show were it's former self, there would've been a scene with Davos revealing a crate to Tyrion, who would then make a quip, and who'd then be bouncing around and complaining as he's carried around KL in it.

I was surprised to see no posts mentioning a certain Arya and Littlefinger scene. The one from S2, with Tywin. There Littlefinger offers his service to Tywin, boasting about the future they can build after the deaths of Robb Stark and others. He also talks about how the chaos of Westeros is an opportunity. The current Winterfell drama with Littlefinger is a bit underwhelming because all that's needed is a scene from Arya or Bran to officially denounce him. I hope the others are right and that Sansa is amidst a move to dispose of him for the betterment of House Stark.

I made myself so loving depressed when it occurred to me what could happen beyond the Wall. That the Hound could die, be the wight presented to Cersei, and end up battling the Mountain. As awesome as undead Cleganebowl would be, I'm hoping the Hound is merely a part of the escort mission, he could still destroy his undead brother then. To House Lannister, he's a criminal with a large bounty on his head, but maybe the stakes give him the spirit to appear. Not that he's afraid, but he has little to gain and his life to lose, so it's a big statement for the Hound to willing come before the Queen, it underscores how dire the situation is.

I'm worried about Jorah. His farewell scenes with Dany and Tyrion had that tone. You know what I mean. It reminded me of Hardhome, when Karsi was telling her children she'll be right behind them. I've always liked him.

"We can't live on berries and roots!"
"I can."

HBO Now Bullshit: It only worked the day I activated it. I spent the whole week trying to rewatch Episode 4 but it would. not. stop. stuttering. I spent all last week troubleshooting. I think all I have left is to reinstall Windows (which I won't do, it must be on their end). A couple pages back, someone asked if there were others having trouble with it. YES.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I don't like where the Arya-Sansa subplot is going, I can't deal with the Starks fracturing again. Stop warging into ravens and put an end to this, Bran you idiot rightful lord of Winterfell.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


I would put money on Bran sorting out Littlefinger in a hurry.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
I thought it was weird that Varys didn't go to King's Landing. Sneaking into the Red Keep should his thing.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Zaphod42 posted:

Also has it been said that Dany is The Worst™ now?

I mean we all saw the show trying to give her a heel turn but this is really not working for me. She's just becoming increasingly stuck up and borderline crazy kinda out of nowhere.

Just when she starts to look a bit more human in one scene she starts demanding 'Bend the knee!!' a second later.

The thing is I have to look at the ethics of the universe the show is in and while that was brutal... it's really a lot better than most lords. She's not wrong if she allows people mercy they will start accepting mercy all of them (though honestly allowing them to take the black would have been a nice offering to her new ally, since the war would create an influx of soldiers going North then) would start considering taking that rather than face a treason death.

But if that were a Stark up there swinging a sword it'd be no more or less psychotic.

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!
A sword is far more quick and painless than literal immolation.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

The Bee posted:

A sword is far more quick and painless than literal immolation.
Only because Drogon hasn't turned up the heat enough.

dont even fink about it posted:

I would put money on Bran sorting out Littlefinger in a hurry.
*Looking at Sansa and Arya dying of the wounds they've inflicted upon each other with a blank stare* "I've been watching Littlefinger trying to turn you two against each other for weeks now. You wouldn't understand."

HoneyBoy
Oct 12, 2012

get murked son
Everyone else has shown us hanging, beheading, banishment, black cells, moon door, etc.

I think all of those are less brutal than being roasted alive next to your son.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Looked pretty quick to me, much hotter than normal fire

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Blazing Ownager posted:

The thing is I have to look at the ethics of the universe the show is in and while that was brutal... it's really a lot better than most lords. She's not wrong if she allows people mercy they will start accepting mercy all of them (though honestly allowing them to take the black would have been a nice offering to her new ally, since the war would create an influx of soldiers going North then) would start considering taking that rather than face a treason death.

But if that were a Stark up there swinging a sword it'd be no more or less psychotic.

Ned executed people who had sworn duties and betrayed them.

He didn't go around proclaiming "Bend the knee or die" to anybody. Even Rob didn't do that?

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Lycus posted:

I thought it was weird that Varys didn't go to King's Landing. Sneaking into the Red Keep should his thing.
He's not that foolhardy

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Looked pretty quick to me, much hotter than normal fire

Yeah, normal fire doesn't turn people to ash in a few moments. They died pretty drat fast and long before their bodies hit the ground.

HoneyBoy
Oct 12, 2012

get murked son
Wow didn't realize I was posting in a thread with RED WITCH APOLOGISTS

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!
Oh man, I hadn't even considered that one of the party sent out might get turned, and then they just grab that person as the evidence. That actually makes a lot of sense, but I feel like it's Beric if anybody then. The Lord of Light kept bringing him back just because it was so important that he die at that specific place, come back as undead, and then be carted back to the South to prove undead are real.

Subjunctivitis
Oct 12, 2007
Causation or Correlation?
I don't understand the complaints about the rushed plots this season. It's 7 episodes. Me, a bad TV watcher, recognized this would be the case when the season was announced. I only expect lousy-to-middling dialogue, questionable sub-plots, and cool blockbuster scenes from here on out. Hopefully my favorite characters don't face much watering-down in light of this. As such, I'm just kickin back, smokin doobs and enjoying the last leg of the ride.

It would be nice if s7 and s8 were to have 10 eps each to flesh some things out, but given the show's writing in recent history, that might actually be a worse thing.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
I know that Dany's being portrayed as a hero and nothing makes you smarter or cooler on the internet as taking a contrary stance, but don't be so loving lazy and obvious about it you half-rate edgelords.

Dany's by far the most merciful commander in the show, crucifixions and all. People who are expecting a medieval dragon queen to start quoting the Geneva conventions and housing/feeding thousands of prisons of war are being willfully obtuse. Toasting two spoiled tyrannical rear end in a top hat lords saved dozens of lives right there and then. Those soldiers will never, ever receive an offer that generous again.

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




I think that Jorah's treatment didn't fully cure him and he's gung ho about going north because he's trying to die fighting for Dany before symptoms manifest themselves again.

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NowonSA posted:

Oh man, I hadn't even considered that one of the party sent out might get turned, and then they just grab that person as the evidence. That actually makes a lot of sense, but I feel like it's Beric if anybody then. The Lord of Light kept bringing him back just because it was so important that he die at that specific place, come back as undead, and then be carted back to the South to prove undead are real.

I hope he and Jon get to compare their resurrection experiences

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

U-DO Burger posted:

I think that Jorah's treatment didn't fully cure him and he's gung ho about going north because he's trying to die fighting for Dany before symptoms manifest themselves again.

Greyscale relapses are possible, so maybe. I guess the point of the "cure" is to build up Sam in Dany's eyes so Dany can release him from the Night's Watch and make him Warden of the South.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Constant posted:

well right now its north vs. south with the dead coming for everyone but north and south don't really believe the tertiary force exists

together everyone may have a chance, the north alone has no chance, Dany could help their cause but cannot leave her position without being harried and harassed by Cersei forces

the least they could do is get Cersei to stand down so Dany can move her forces to the wall and maybe Cersei would be contented thinking the dead would buttfuck them all if they actually do exist and Cersei can pick up the pieces without having to deal with dragons and dothraki
thats fair enough I guess, but to paraphrase someone a few posts back, 'this doesnt feel like a subplot grrm would have written not that grrm is perfect'. poo poo definitely feels rushed leading to a show that feels different in tone, which is sometimes an improvement

also where the hell is Euron? in the books he's being built up as like literally satan and to a lesser extent in the show as well but having him missing for two episodes makes me wonder as to his role on the show

cargo cult fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Aug 14, 2017

Rotacixe
Oct 21, 2008

precision posted:

- Jon Snow (RANGER)
- The Hound (FIGHTER)
- Thoros of Myr (CLERIC)
- Berric Dondarrion (PALADIN)
- Jorah Mormont (SWASHBUCKLER)
- Tormund Giantsbane (BERSERKER)

They forgot the ranged DPS. They're going to fail.

-Anguy (ROGUE)
-Melisandre (MAGE)

Mister Perky
Aug 2, 2010

Rotacixe posted:

They forgot the ranged DPS. They're going to fail.

And Jon had a chance at it too.

Theon's still got the right fingers; Ramsay just took a pinky.

JOHNSON COCKSLAP
Apr 2, 2017

by Lowtax

Lycus posted:

Greyscale relapses are possible, so maybe. I guess the point of the "cure" is to build up Sam in Dany's eyes so Dany can release him from the Night's Watch and make him Warden of the South.

The only point to the greyscale plot was to show that the citadel has knowledge that no-one in the show has encountered before.

Also I'm hoping we meet this prince Ragger in the next couple of episodes. Do you think he might know something about Rheagar and Lyana? Rhaegar was married to a donnish woman right?

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







I just don't understand why they needed to rush so much

you've got fifteen episodes, you've got everyone in the cities they need to be in, the table is set.

There's no reason to have jon teleporting between cities, or euron's magical fleet, or all this loving fan service.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Isn't it only 7 episodes?

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
Holy poo poo, I just had a revelation that I think I know exactly how things are going to go.

Jon and Dany are going to bump uglies because nobody's going to actually tell them they're related (Daenerys would probably be fine with it, Jon less so). They go to King's Landing with a captured wight to convince Cersei to help them, but Cersei just goes "hahaha fuckers BURN THEM ALL!", and Jaime kills her because she's gone full Mad Queen (also she tries to burn Dany but that fails because Dany's immune to fire). Dany gets a bit horrified as to what happens and realizes she doesn't want to be like that and tones down her Mad Queen tendencies.

So they go up North to fight the undead, and at some point Dany dies. Jon is very sad, but he knows the one thing you do with your dead when fighting the Night King is to burn them, and he attempts to, but Dany is still (even as a corpse) immune to fire. To prevent her from being raised as a Wight he instead decides to stab her with Heartsbane and while doing so the Lord of Light rezzes her and brings her back as Lightbringer.

Then she and Jon go nuts defeating the White Walkers, but Jon has to make the heroic sacrifice (either to die, or possibly 'there must always be a Night King'). Dany, now being the rightful heir, heads back south as Queen of the Seven Kingdoms, and rules as a humbler, less Mad queen, and one of the last things we find out is she's pregnant with Jon's child.

Possibly the last scene we see is dragon eggs on Dragonstone starting to hatch.

Roach Warehouse
Nov 1, 2010


Rotacixe posted:

precision posted:


- Jon Snow (RANGER) (STEWARD)
- The Hound (FIGHTER)
- Thoros of Myr (CLERIC)
- Berric Dondarrion (PALADIN)
- Jorah Mormont (SWASHBUCKLER)
- Tormund Giantsbane (BERSERKER)

They forgot the ranged DPS. They're going to fail.

-Anguy (ROGUE)
-Melisandre (MAGE)

Fixed that up for you guys.

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Photex
Apr 6, 2009




FizFashizzle posted:

I just don't understand why they needed to rush so much

you've got fifteen episodes, you've got everyone in the cities they need to be in, the table is set.

There's no reason to have jon teleporting between cities, or euron's magical fleet, or all this loving fan service.

there are only 2 episodes left this season, 8 in total.

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