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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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Leggsy posted:As much as I'd like to ignore it. This Wings thing is actually looking like it's going to open a pretty big schism between the Zoomers and the non-shitheads within the Yes movement. Thankfully, it means that people actually have to take a side on whether to condemn or support him. Got a screenie or summary? It's been deleted already.
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Jedit posted:Got a screenie or summary? It's been deleted already. Mahari had liked a whole bunch of pro Campbell tweets about the court case and the poster had pointed out it conflicted with her stand point on LGBT issues. Then Cambells lot got in and tweeted a whole bunch of abuse at her and started trying to get the common space to fire her before she even started writing for them until she deleted her tweet.
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Aug 1, 2017 01:39
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http://www.britishelectionstudy.com/bes-findings/a-tale-of-two-referendums-the-2017-election-in-scotland/#.WYLZIYTytaT Interesting study on how the EU referendum drove seat changes. Demonstrates that there wasn't a uniform SNP > Tory shift, but a churn among the other parties. Labour needs to stop talking about the constitution.
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Aug 3, 2017 09:48
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My new fave twitter account https://twitter.com/rabwilson11/status/894665207494193152
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Aug 8, 2017 00:14
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Pissflaps posted:My new fave twitter account Is that his real account, or a markov chain trained on the broons and oor wullie jre fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 00:18
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That's why it's so good. It's impossible to tell.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:22
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Pissflaps posted:That's why it's so good. It's impossible to tell. Why the gently caress would you spell "rock" so that the implied pronunciation rhymes with boak. Who's accent is that supposed to be ?
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Aug 8, 2017 00:28
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It's sadly a parody but I can forgive the application of Poe's Law in this case.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:31
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jre posted:Why the gently caress would you spell "rock" so that the implied pronunciation rhymes with boak. Um it's not an accent it's a language.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:37
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Leggsy posted:It's sadly a parody but I can forgive the application of Poe's Law in this case. There's a difference between The National and a parody?
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Aug 8, 2017 01:10
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ah yes, we could all stand to learn a lesson from Mount Rushmore, the most important one being that it's morally justifiable to steal Native American land and carve the heads of white men into them, two of whom owned slaves
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Aug 8, 2017 22:26
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https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/3kk8z5/scotlands-extreme-right-wingers-are-now-backing-independence well that's a turn up for the books.
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Aug 9, 2017 10:49
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National Action are cunts, and I think their claim that "a lot" of SNP voters are ethno-nationalists doesn't really stand up to any close examination. Though obviously there's nothing special & magic about Scottish nationalism that means it can't be just as attractive to horrible racists as British nationalism. Cynically it makes sense, even if this mobs dedication to Scottish nationalism seems about as sincere as Jim Murphy's. These are the cunts who have been doing poo poo in Glasgow like soup kitchens for the homeless, but only white Scottish (or maybe it was British, I forget) homeless. They seem to have a presence in Glasgow, even if it is quite small for now. Still worrying.
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Aug 9, 2017 11:18
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"This time" the nationalism is right wing, huh?
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Aug 9, 2017 11:35
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Has anyone here been to Salmond's show at the Fringe? I'd like to fact check this review because I'm struggling to believe he actually said it wow https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/896961064511954945
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Aug 14, 2017 09:54
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More like Cringe Show.
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Aug 14, 2017 10:49
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Pissflaps posted:Has anyone here been to Salmond's show at the Fringe? IIRC it's sold out (in case anyone was just desperate to go now). I don't think it's hard to believe: salmonds always seen himself as a bit of a raconteur (and by all accounts he's very good at it), so a talk show host complete with terrible jokes makes sense. It also sounds a lot like a wealthy and aging man who's ignored the Fringe his whole life's idea of what an edgy fringe joke should be. Pretty sure paxman had a show a few years back where he did more or less exactly the same routine, cosy chummy chat show with the occasional post-watershed gags of embarrassingly poor judgement
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Aug 14, 2017 17:00
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That's a hell of a misleading headline.
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Aug 14, 2017 17:00
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Sounds like there wasn't much of a big climax either.
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Aug 14, 2017 17:12
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So this is how Alex Salmond prefers to spend his retirement rather than spend time with his 80 year old wife.
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Aug 14, 2017 18:48
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Pride Glasgow / gently caress Police Scotland news: As expected for an LGBT-friendly city in an LGBT-friendly country, Saturday saw a massive turnout for the Pride Parade. Unfortunately this event has become increasingly commercialised and apolitical in recent years, with many corporate floats, ticketing for the first time ever at the official festival addressed by the First Minister, and the presence of uniformed police and military on the parade. Indeed, Police Scotland were allowed the honour of leading the Parade off from Glasgow Green... Objecting to the latter first and foremost (Pride began as a protest against police brutality), three persons from the Free Pride movement were arrested for peacefully being in the road as the Parade moved off. In return, the police showed that they too would like to go back to the good old days, tackling the protestors to the ground and locking them up for breach of the peace. Partly for the same reasons, and also in response to recent events in the US and elsewhere, another bloc on the Parade chose to present as visibly anti-fascist / anti-capitalist / anti-pinkwashing. This too proved excessively controversial for event organisers, with the outcome that police stormed in to immediately arrest a 16-year-old wearing a rainbow flag for carrying a placard reading 'These faggots fight fascists'. Another person was arrested for trying to support this youngster as they were dragged away in tears by police. Both were thrown in the cells and charged with homophobically-aggravated breach of the peace; the supporter also got resisting arrest and police obstruction charges. The Free Pride folks were liberated later on Saturday, to hopefully face no further consequences. The anti-fascist's supporter was released over a day later. Meanwhile, this most vulnerable arrestee was held for two nights in the cells before being brought before Glasgow Sheriff Court earlier today. Pride Glasgow's organisers issued a statement over the weekend backing the police action to the hilt. Happily, more sensible heads prevailed outwith the police station and the teenager was today liberated by the court to leave with family, and is unlikely to face further action. The person who tried to intercede on their behalf is now facing trial for resisting arrest and police obstruction, with the charge of 'homophobic breach of the peace' dropped. So it's a paradoxical charge of resisting arrest and obstructing police whilst being arrested for something the police now admit they didn't do. There's a good write-up with pictures and video and historical context on this blog https://athousandflowers.net/2017/08/19/no-pride-in-police-arrests-in-glasgow-as-protesters-resist-police-led-pride-march (not my blog or write-up). tl,dr: upset to find that not everyone loves them, Police Scotland proved the point by taking it out on one of the most vulnerable people attending the Glasgow Pride Parade, with organisers' support.
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Aug 21, 2017 17:49
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Juliet Whisky posted:Pride Glasgow / gently caress Police Scotland news: So your complaints seem to be 1. I'm 12 years old and hate the police. gently caress you dad. 2. People breaching the peace got arrested for breaching the peace. 3. Someone stupid enough to try and stop the police arresting someone got done for obstruction of justice. What do you think happens to people who lie down in the road and refuse to move ?
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Aug 21, 2017 19:17
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jre posted:So your complaints seem to be Jings. This take's a right scorcher.
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Aug 21, 2017 19:22
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I'm not sure if that young man is ready to fight fascism if this encounter left him in tears.
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Aug 21, 2017 21:27
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TomViolence posted:Jings. This take's a right scorcher.  pride is too mainstream say angsty teenagers
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Aug 21, 2017 21:31
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Aug 21, 2017 22:04
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jre posted:So your complaints seem to be loving hell that's a bad post.
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Aug 21, 2017 22:10
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There's yer Wings Over Scotland arrested.
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Aug 21, 2017 22:22
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Pissflaps posted:I'm not sure if that young man is ready to fight fascism if this encounter left him in tears. jre posted:
Maybe you guys should consider recanting since it seems the police are now coming after people making bad posts on the internet.
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Aug 21, 2017 22:44
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Juliet Whisky posted:Maybe you guys should consider recanting since it seems the police are now coming after people making bad posts on the internet. Public unequivocal show of support for LGBT rights by police and business community bad say people born after the repeal of section 28 and the decriminalisation of homosexuality
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Aug 21, 2017 22:58
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jre posted:Public unequivocal show of support for LGBT rights by police and business community bad say people born after the repeal of section 28 and the decriminalisation of homosexuality You're a loving idiot if you don't think police still beat on and abuse LGBT people any chance they get. The police are not friends to the queer community and have no place in our gatherings and celebrations.
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Aug 21, 2017 22:59
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cis autodrag posted:You're a loving idiot if you don't think police still beat on and abuse LGBT people any chance they get. The police are not friends to the queer community and have no place in our gatherings and celebrations. Thank you for rushing in to share your in depth knowledge of Police Scotland
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Aug 21, 2017 23:02
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jre posted:Public unequivocal show of support for LGBT rights by police and business community bad say people born after the repeal of section 28 and the decriminalisation of homosexuality Pride Glasgow steering committee member spotted. jre posted:Thank you for rushing in to share your in depth knowledge of Police Scotland It's alleged that uniformed officers posed for photographs with the Christian fundamentalist counter-demonstration. I mean, since pictures of people pinned face-down in the street for holding placards didn't do it for you, maybe check that out.
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Aug 21, 2017 23:17
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jre posted:Public unequivocal show of support for LGBT rights by police and business community bad say people born after the repeal of section 28 and the decriminalisation of homosexuality It's not exactly unequivocal support if LGBT people are getting arrested or kicked out of their own parade for expressing political speech, now is it? And not every anticapitalist is an angsty teenager, in fact many of the more radical voices in the LGBT community are people who were there back in the days when LGBT activism itself was pretty loving radical compared to today.
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Aug 21, 2017 23:28
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Juliet Whisky posted:It's alleged quote:pictures of people pinned face-down in the street for holding placards
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Aug 21, 2017 23:29
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jre posted:Public unequivocal show of support for LGBT rights by police and business community bad say people born after the repeal of section 28 and the decriminalisation of homosexuality This post pretty much reads as "you gays can shag now without getting automatically locked up why are any of you still protesting", you might want to have a think there Also in other news lol @ wings man cementing his status as Tommy Sheridan II Electric Boogaloo
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Aug 21, 2017 23:30
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Angepain posted:This post pretty much reads as "you gays can shag now without getting automatically locked up why are any of you still protesting", you might want to have a think there Yeah, if you ignore all the words in the post and insert your own prejudice I guess it says that.
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Aug 21, 2017 23:32
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Getting arrested is kind of the point of civil disobedience as a method of protest isn't it? To use the state apparatus against itself by clogging up the system.
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Aug 21, 2017 23:33
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Angepain posted:Also in other news lol @ wings man cementing his status as Tommy Sheridan II Electric Boogaloo You're equating consensual extra marital sex with abuse?
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jre posted:So no proof whatsoever then ? Correct on the first count thus far but I suspect there may be more on this to come. To the second point -- you're confusing people who undoubtedly anticipated the possibility of arrest with a kid on their first Pride Parade who thought they were safe to express themselves in Glasgow. The 16-year-old was holding a placard well away from the protest at the commencement of the march. Cerv posted:Getting arrested is kind of the point of civil disobedience as a method of protest isn't it? To use the state apparatus against itself by clogging up the system. No, it's more about taking direct action where other forms of discourse have failed. What happened on Saturday isn't locally normal in my experience; peaceful protestors aren't usually cuffed or pinned, and I can't remember seeing a protest-related breach-of-the-peace arrest where the cops didn't issue a warning first, with the opportunity to walk away. Wrestling people to the ground for being vocal and forming a snatch squad for a schoolkid are tactics I haven't seen before. But hey, there was a rainbow flag sticker on the front door of the police station the arrestees were held at!
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