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Apparently the Daily Stormer has given up and is moving to Tor. Good riddance.
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OldTennisCourt posted:^ what does this even mean We get it. Your personal annoyance with Fallon is what matters. Making sure everybody knows Fallon is Bad and Dumb is more important than standing in solidarity against nazis.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:08
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The only useful takeaway from Fallon is that his whole shtick is to be a really nice guy who laughs at himself and is just having so much fun being a jokeman on the television, so when he gets serious and tells you to gently caress off, you've probably done something pretty bad.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:09
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I don't think Jimmy Fallon was choking up during that video because he was sad about his ratings. A lot of people are being forced to confront their political apathy and ambivalence. It's good when one of them rebukes the president in front of an audience of 2.5 million. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0BYqzdiuJc
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PhazonLink posted:Reminder, the most recent "FOR THE CHILDREN" anti porn law was literally passed this year. For the record, that bill never went anywhere, and it certainly didn't become law.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:10
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Apparently the Daily Stormer has given up and is moving to Tor. Good riddance. Tor is that deep web hidden Internet, right?
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Aug 15, 2017 16:10
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hiddenriverninja posted:Tor is that deep web hidden Internet, right? total coincidence that it's full of cp
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Aug 15, 2017 16:11
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Have any other people at that rally been named and shamed/lost their jobs? I know one dude did and another guy was a student who is trying the "I'm not racist I'm just white and proud!" tactic but that was the last I saw.the black husserl posted:We get it. Your personal annoyance with Fallon is what matters. Making sure everybody knows Fallon is Bad and Dumb is more important than standing in solidarity against nazis. Yeah dude you got me, your snap detective skills were hard at work here.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:12
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TyrantWD posted:It is fine to question Fallon's motives for turning on Trump, because in the most likely scenario of him just chasing ratings, there is a good chance of him flipping back if it becomes good for ratings. If there were a mine collapse, or some other disaster, and Trump did the bare minimum expected from a president in such a situation, you can bet Fallon will be playing with Trump's hair the following week. Similarly the idea that anyone even cares what the pundit Van Jones thinks about anything after he pivoted from crying on election night and being a voice of reason, to calling Trump "presidential" the moment he murders a few people in Syria is probably one of the most skin-crawlingly cynical and destructive things I've seen to normalize Trump. I blame him and his ilk for giving Trump the idea that war and murder = solid media approval. It's not that Fallon denouncing Trump is wrong if it doesn't come from some ideologically pure place, it's whether he's liable to muddy his own message if the media message changes, and he doesn't really take seriously what he's saying. In a way it's worse for the public than just being an all-out Jefferey Lord sycophant.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:12
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DreamShipWrecked posted:It's Silicon Valley as gently caress but the hope would be that increased demands would create better networks. Is that realistic? No, but we are dreamers. as long as there are single points of failure you're going to have the government seeking to control those points of failure. a lot of these "technical solutions to social problems" encryption ideas have leaned heavily on the government just not quite getting where the points of failure are because they're behind the curve, or putting the points of failure outside their control by putting the points of failure in jurisdictions that will not permit the sort of snooping you want to prevent - which is giving credit to the encryption instead of the real hero, whatever social measures were used to get that freedom in that jurisdiction this is all putting aside the problem that the instant you create these super-private communications channels they're instantly invaded by child pornographers because those are the people that want the best protection against government snooping possible and ordinary people are not terribly interested in things that associate them with child pornographers so yeah, it's silicon valley as gently caress, but not in a good way. you can't get around the need for society to decide what level of government snooping it will tolerate
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Aug 15, 2017 16:12
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hiddenriverninja posted:Tor is that deep web hidden Internet, right? Right. Basically now it's impossible to destroy the site but it will also be nigh-unsearchable so their chance of recruiting new people is pretty much nil
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Aug 15, 2017 16:13
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OldTennisCourt posted:It's fine to question motives though. People need to stop acting like saying "Hmmm, he may have ulterior motives" means poo poo other than thinking about it. No one here is telling him in a tweet to gently caress off, tweeting sponsors to drop him or whatever. Literally no one gives a poo poo about Fallon. It's YOU whose own poo poo we're trying to rub your nose in. Don't make a habit out of questioning people's motives for doing the right thing. It literally doesn't matter in this specific case what you think about Jimmy loving Fallon. What does matter is if you pull this poo poo all the time, which makes you a drag on a cause and not an ally.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:13
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Right. Basically now it's impossible to destroy the site but it will also be nigh-unsearchable so their chance of recruiting new people is pretty much nil Whats been the reaction to this? I'm getting the feeling that a whole lotta people are yelling about the 1st amendment.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:14
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OldTennisCourt posted:Have any other people at that rally been named and shamed/lost their jobs? I know one dude did and another guy was a student who is trying the "I'm not racist I'm just white and proud!" tactic but that was the last I saw. not to my knowledge but there was one completely unrelated professor who was getting harassed because of a vague resemblance to someone in the pictures (he has a rock-solid alibi and was not at the nazi march), so it's important to be sure before demanding someone be fired 
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Aug 15, 2017 16:14
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I don't think Jimmy Fallon was choking up during that video because he was sad about his ratings. A lot of people are being forced to confront their political apathy and ambivalence. It's good when one of them rebukes the president in front of an audience of 2.5 million. I would've had a much more positive reaction if he also apologized for rubbing Trump's head and normalizing his hatred of other people. He was part of the problem and while I hope he's feeling some actual regret for what he did until he publicly says "I am sorry I did this" it's all just crocodile tears to me.
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OldTennisCourt posted:Whats been the reaction to this? I'm getting the feeling that a whole lotta people are yelling about the 1st amendment. the people who yell about the first amendment meaning there should be no consequences at all for speech from anyone prefer dogwhistle stuff rather than a site named after the most famous nazi propaganda newspaper
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Aug 15, 2017 16:16
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thedangergroove posted:Does anyone have that chart/graphic showing when Confederate monuments were built, which showed huge spikes after significant civil rights victories? All this bullshit is finally starting to show cracks of years of right wing radio BS in my dad, and this will help to illustrate a point he was warming up to. I didn't see anyone post it, so...  Note the first big jump is right after Plessy v. Ferguson.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:16
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hiddenriverninja posted:Tor is that deep web hidden Internet, right? Yeah. More specifically, Tor is an infrastructure for anonymizing internet traffic as completely as is practical. This move is weird, though. Daily Stormer still need to either find someone willing to host the content on their servers, or build their own servers. Which is the real problem they were facing.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:17
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https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/897243518795530240
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Aug 15, 2017 16:17
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hiddenriverninja posted:Tor is that deep web hidden Internet, right? yeah and it's so difficult and annoying to use that putting the website on tor basically means even most of the diehard supporters are going to stop visiting
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Aug 15, 2017 16:19
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FizFashizzle posted:all the population centers in North Carolina are liberal as all hell. The state is just gerrymandered to poo poo and back.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:19
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H.P. Grenade posted:I didn't see anyone post it, so... Excellent, thanks!
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BlueberryCanary posted:Yeah. More specifically, Tor is an infrastructure for anonymizing internet traffic as completely as is practical. by putting it on tor, they make it difficult (theoretically impossible, but the FBI keeps proving that's not the case) for people to determine who is hosting it and complain to the hosting company and get them kicked out, and hosting companies tend not to be proactively screening the content they host and instead just respond to complaints
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Aug 15, 2017 16:20
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theflyingorc posted:Yyyyyup. Asheville is lumped into where I grew up, several hours away near the SC border. Our bluest city has a Republican representative, it's unreal. To be fair he doesn't step foot in it. "Mark Meadows back home today in...Waynesville.."
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Aug 15, 2017 16:20
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Ok, next goon project, lets get 4chan kicked off of its host
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Aug 15, 2017 16:21
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https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/897477212663926785
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Aug 15, 2017 16:21
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Yeah, that's why I said people are being forced to confront their apathy and ambivalence.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:21
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Look at this steaming pile of poo poo people are passing around on Facebook: http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/23/how-anti-white-rhetoric-is-fueling-white-nationalism/ Yeah he is pretty much right. Liberal intellectuals are complete hypocrites telling people that race is culturally constructed and non-essential and then reordering culture completely along racial lines. The invisible knapsack does nothing to help oppressed people it only demoralizes and humiliates privileged people. You can't really check the privilege of someone else you can only check your own, meaning that this program needs the internalized beliefs to already mirror anti-racists ones. White racists will not consent to being singled out and demoralized, they will react and assert their white pride.
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The Glumslinger posted:Ok, next goon project, lets get 4chan kicked off of its host Then they just scatter to 8chan or worse
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Yeah, that's why I said people are being forced to confront their apathy and ambivalence. In case anyone wasn't sure what you were referring to. In fairness he got poo poo all over at the time for it as well.
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BlueberryCanary posted:Yeah. More specifically, Tor is an infrastructure for anonymizing internet traffic as completely as is practical. I don't think the servers were the problem, it was the DNS registration, wasn't it?
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Aug 15, 2017 16:22
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Mahoning posted:You're almost never going to change the way someone thinks. We can change the way people act, because there can be consequences to actions. What if the consequences are too minor, or end up incentivizing doing the wrong thing? Fallon wouldn't give two shits about flipping and becoming a Trump cheerleader if that is the way the wind is blowing that week, and people like that don't deserve a pat on the back.
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farraday posted:http://www.wral.com/durham-sheriff-to-seek-charges-for-confederate-statue-vandalism/16881777/ They know what they're doing. https://twitter.com/charliereece/status/897271157975416834
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Blitz7x posted:Then they just scatter to 8chan or worse so? you can't eradicate them but every time you squash an offshoot they'll lose people and popular awareness of their site
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FizFashizzle posted:In case anyone wasn't sure what you were referring to. Ahhh, OK. But yeah he definitely deserved to get poo poo for that.
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Aug 15, 2017 16:23
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Tayter Swift posted:They know what they're doing. ahahahaha this guy owns
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Aug 15, 2017 16:23
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get ready for, uh, the fatheads guy and maybe donald sterling? i dunno https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/897478270442143744
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evilweasel posted:so? you can't eradicate them but every time you squash an offshoot they'll lose people and popular awareness of their site Sorry, I meant that in the context of "then that's the next target to eliminate"
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Oh cool, my insomnia induced arguing helped lead to week long probations for the MAGA crew in QCS. That's like the first time that poo poo ever worked. Check the 2 AM probations Nice job man. Were they all defending Nazi basically?
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