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Captainsalami
Apr 16, 2010

I told you you'd pay!

Sad King Billy posted:

Depends what time their shift ends I suppose, however I was never let anywhere near till, I used to handle the truck orders.

I went into a store once with a friend and he argued with the cashier for five minutes because they were missing a penny change and asked him if he was OK to do without. He said he wasn't and refused to leave until they got his change, it was near the end of the shift so they had to break into the petty cash.

My friend argued that McDonald's are a huge multinational company and should not have difficulty giving him such a small amount of change back. I argued that it had nothing to do with the cashiers, they just wanted to get home.
In the end he won though.

Your friend is a jackass.

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Sad King Billy
Jan 27, 2006

Thats three of ours innit...to one of yours. You know mate I really think we ought to even up the average!

Captainsalami posted:

Your friend is a jackass.

He can be.

SeXReX
Jan 9, 2009

I drink, mostly.
And get mad at people on the internet


:emptyquote:

mllaneza posted:

Our old UPS rule of thumb was that you should be able to stand on the box. Brace the hell out of that box.

This is a good rule of thumb because your stuff will probably actually be stepped on.

I think many people don't "get" what the inside of the big 18 wheeler containers looks like.
it's just stuffed with as many boxes as possible. No shelves, just boxes piled 9 feet high with the only thing supporting boxes on top being the boxes on the bottom.

Your "lazy" driver didn't break your poo poo, your greedy shareholders did.

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

dang oh well they really do need those giga yachts so i guess we just have to deal with hosed poo poo

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

SeXReX posted:


Your "lazy" driver didn't break your poo poo, your greedy shareholders did.

Just apply this rule to literally everything, and you'll find it checks out.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Rutibex posted:

I have an American $1 coin, it has a picture of george Washington on it. it's the same size and colour as a Canadian loonie, but the design is kind for cheap so it looks more like a bus token than real money.
yeah there are several transit systems here where you get $1 coin back in change, Caltrain and i think VTA still do them. it's kind of annoying because you're like "great now i have these loving cheap chuck e cheese tokens, no one is going to know what these are!"

they're certainly still around in tyool 2017. i guess its cheaper to refill/vend out $1 coins than bills

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
I've seen a lot of parking garage ticket machines cough them up as change. They're nice because a vending machine that accepts dollar coins tends to be less finicky than dollar bills.

Pretty sure BART and Caltrain machines also accept $2 bills as well.

I Brake For MILFs
Jan 9, 2007

:syoon:


If a casino doesn't use $2.50 chips then they will carry rolls of half dollar coins. It's used in black jack. Someone hits BJ on a $5 bet and they get $7.50 back.

Shaddak
Nov 13, 2011

Waffle! posted:

Sometimes I blow someone's mind with a $2 bill.

poo poo, I've had teenagers working a drivethrough think I'm handing them fake money, when it's just one of the oldstyle ten-dollar bills.

Shaddak
Nov 13, 2011

Sankis posted:

I think I see more $2 bills nowadays than I see half dollars which is weird. I don't know if the government just gave up on them or what. I feel like I saw them fairly often in the 90s as a kid.

here's also something about half dollars I learned. If you find one from the 60s or I think 1970, they're worth something like $2 each due to silver content!

Initial issue year of '64 is 90% silver, '65 to '70 is 40%. Starting in '71, they took out the silver.

Professor Latency
Mar 30, 2011

Shaddak posted:

poo poo, I've had teenagers working a drivethrough think I'm handing them fake money, when it's just one of the oldstyle ten-dollar bills.

I think it's funny how we've grown used to the new $100 bill. The old one looks fake to me.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
While we're on the topic, gently caress anyone who uses $100 bills, unless what you are buying is actually close to $100.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Zenithe posted:

While we're on the topic, gently caress anyone who uses $100 bills, unless what you are buying is actually close to $100.

id guess payday cashing, or getting $100 cashback from a store and not asking for 2-50s or 5-20s instead like a smart person? 100s are huge loving pain to deal with and many places won't even take em, even here if you pay with them here at the bay bridge toll, they have to get out and write down your plate and file a report because i guess if you spend all day in traffic driving back and forth you might launder up to $500 a day? idk seems stupid.

berth ell pup
Mar 20, 2017

I am a business magnet.

Shaddak posted:

Initial issue year of '64 is 90% silver, '65 to '70 is 40%. Starting in '71, they took out the silver.

and though the 40% ones have intrinsic value it's illegal to melt them for scrap. still neat though. when I was making daily deposits years ago for work I'd periodically ask if they had any halves and got many 40% ones and a couple 90% ones and tons of the plain ones which I spent. i was probably "that guy" but whatever. http://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html if you care.

When I was a cashier I would always pull all the wheats (for fun) and the silver I'd get from time to time. You can hear the difference with silver when you put it in the drawer and I just ended up developing an eye for wheats, of which I have several hundred in a cigar box somewhere. The silver-containing nickels are hard to spot but they're usually worn and sort of dirty and I have a small collection of those.

There are some truly batshit people out there that buy cases and cases of "crw" (customer wrapped rolls) of pennies from banks and sort the pure copper ones from the copper/zinc ones. people with even more time do it with dimes and quarters. I don't know how much silver is still out there but ~8-10 years ago they'd get like a quarter out of each $1k in rolled quarters or some other insanely small payout. A lot of banks don't even take rolled coin anymore so idk where they'd get them now.

oh and coinstars used to reject silver (still do?) so i'd always check the reject bin when leaving a grocery store and I found a good bit of silver that way too.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

Someone once tried to tell me that 1 dollar coins were used to pay migrant labor in the US South, so they could use those to track what they buy and do in stores. Which sounds dumb and racist and convoluted. I guess they were trying to justify dollar coins?? I've used dollar coins to pay for bus fare until they raised the prices 2.50 USD and I got sick of carting so many coins around.

berth ell pup
Mar 20, 2017

I am a business magnet.

value-brand cereal posted:

Someone once tried to tell me that 1 dollar coins were used to pay migrant labor in the US South, so they could use those to track what they buy and do in stores. Which sounds dumb and racist and convoluted. I guess they were trying to justify dollar coins?? I've used dollar coins to pay for bus fare until they raised the prices 2.50 USD and I got sick of carting so many coins around.

I don't know about that but I do know that fans of Clemson use $2 bills when they travel to games to show all the money they give to the local economy for ??reasons??.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

berth ell pup posted:

and though the 40% ones have intrinsic value it's illegal to melt them for scrap. still neat though. when I was making daily deposits years ago for work I'd periodically ask if they had any halves and got many 40% ones and a couple 90% ones and tons of the plain ones which I spent. i was probably "that guy" but whatever. http://www.coinflation.com/silver_coin_values.html if you care.

When I was a cashier I would always pull all the wheats (for fun) and the silver I'd get from time to time. You can hear the difference with silver when you put it in the drawer and I just ended up developing an eye for wheats, of which I have several hundred in a cigar box somewhere. The silver-containing nickels are hard to spot but they're usually worn and sort of dirty and I have a small collection of those.

There are some truly batshit people out there that buy cases and cases of "crw" (customer wrapped rolls) of pennies from banks and sort the pure copper ones from the copper/zinc ones. people with even more time do it with dimes and quarters. I don't know how much silver is still out there but ~8-10 years ago they'd get like a quarter out of each $1k in rolled quarters or some other insanely small payout. A lot of banks don't even take rolled coin anymore so idk where they'd get them now.

oh and coinstars used to reject silver (still do?) so i'd always check the reject bin when leaving a grocery store and I found a good bit of silver that way too.

When I was a cashier at a gas station I would make a point of collecting all the cool old coins. Canada does like a dozen commemorative one off quarters every year, so I would try to pick up those. I would also grab any coins with the hot young queen on it, or even rarer the ones with the king. I particularly like the octagonal nickels.

Navin Johnson
Mar 1, 2016

As of today, i've had two "customers" indicate to me they were going to shoot me. The first time I told management. They didn't care. Today, I shrugged and did nothing. I'm pleased with my growth in both wisdom and apathy

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Navin Johnson posted:

As of today, i've had two "customers" indicate to me they were going to shoot me. The first time I told management. They didn't care. Today, I shrugged and did nothing. I'm pleased with my growth in both wisdom and apathy

were you standing in front of a bunch of cans

berth ell pup
Mar 20, 2017

I am a business magnet.

Rutibex posted:

When I was a cashier at a gas station I would make a point of collecting all the cool old coins. Canada does like a dozen commemorative one off quarters every year, so I would try to pick up those. I would also grab any coins with the hot young queen on it, or even rarer the ones with the king. I particularly like the octagonal nickels.

Oh yeah I think I have one silver young-queen quarter and I definitely have penny with the king on it too. How they made it to the Southeast is anyone's guess.

Navin Johnson
Mar 1, 2016

The Walrus posted:

were you standing in front of a bunch of cans

I see what you did there.......excelsior Walrus. Coo coo cahchoo and all that. I was far from the cans. The cans we sell are defective though......

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Xaris posted:


id guess payday cashing, or getting $100 cashback from a store and not asking for 2-50s or 5-20s instead like a smart person? 100s are huge loving pain to deal with and many places won't even take em, even here if you pay with them here at the bay bridge toll, they have to get out and write down your plate and file a report because i guess if you spend all day in traffic driving back and forth you might launder up to $500 a day? idk seems stupid.

In Australia (where zenithe is) It's entirely old people who withdraw money by going to the bank each month and writing a cheque to themselves. ATMs don't give out 100s. That and people giving large cash gifts as birthday presents, because they think 100s are fancier. Nobody gets paid by cheque in Australia. Legitimate businesses pay employees by direct deposit to their bank account. Tax is automatically deducted, and all your income details are reported to the tax office. The only time people get paid by some other means is tradies accepting cash payment for work, or businesses that are committing wage fraud.

It works really well - the tax office already knows everything about you, and it coordinates information with pretty much everyone, so when it comes time to do your tax return, unless you've got complicated tax arrangements, for 90% of people it's a 5 minute job of logging on to the tax office website, reviewing the information they've collected, adding in a charitable donation or whatever that you want to claim (if you haven't been using the app to record that stuff as you do it) and hitting send. Pretty much all the information you need is automagically filled in for you. Then a few days later they deposit your tax refund into your bank account.

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !

Munchables posted:

if you need wheelchair assistance when you fly, please tip.

is that for disabled or just fat as poo poo

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Zenithe posted:

While we're on the topic, gently caress anyone who uses $100 bills, unless what you are buying is actually close to $100.

Then you give them back their entire change in coins :colbert:

$100 for a newspaper first thing in the morning? Sure, here's $98 in gold and silver for you to cram up your arsehole, mate. Ta.


The Lord Bude posted:

Nobody gets paid by cheque in Australia.

Yeah, the only times you'd ever see a cheque in Australia is when you're buying something like a house or a car. Even then they're cashier's cheques.


I sure as hell don't miss getting stuck behind some dusty old bint at the supermarket who takes five years to fill out a cheque when I go shopping.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

The Lord Bude posted:

Nobody gets paid by cheque in Australia. Legitimate businesses pay employees by direct deposit to their bank account.



Have I mentioned that a significant part of my customer base are blue collar workers who carry literally thousands of dollars in cash? Because that.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

berth ell pup posted:

Oh yeah I think I have one silver young-queen quarter and I definitely have penny with the king on it too. How they made it to the Southeast is anyone's guess.

The other day some old German tourists gave me a WWII fifty cent piece with King George on it. Looked it up, apparently it's worth like, ten bucks.

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

Arrhythmia posted:

The other day some old German tourists gave me a WWII fifty cent piece with King George on it. Looked it up, apparently it's worth like, ten bucks.

I wonder how they got it. :hitler:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Starman Super DX posted:

One of my high school English teachers once told us that when she was in school they had someone who called themselves "The Angry Dumper". Apparently disgruntled individuals smearing poo poo on the wall as a form of non violent protest is a surprisingly common and unoriginal thing. I'm also fairly certain that it's something that people do in prison.

Sometimes when prisoners know they're going to get an asskicking from the guards they'll smear their own poo poo all over themselves just to ruin the guards' day as much as possible. It's called "bronzing up."

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Sometimes when prisoners know they're going to get an asskicking from the guards they'll smear their own poo poo all over themselves. It's called "bronzing up."

Its mostly a thing that crazy rear end inmates do rather than some sort of self-defense thing.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

The Lord Bude posted:

In Australia (where zenithe is) It's entirely old people who withdraw money by going to the bank each month and writing a cheque to themselves. ATMs don't give out 100s. That and people giving large cash gifts as birthday presents, because they think 100s are fancier. Nobody gets paid by cheque in Australia. Legitimate businesses pay employees by direct deposit to their bank account. Tax is automatically deducted, and all your income details are reported to the tax office. The only time people get paid by some other means is tradies accepting cash payment for work, or businesses that are committing wage fraud.

It works really well - the tax office already knows everything about you, and it coordinates information with pretty much everyone, so when it comes time to do your tax return, unless you've got complicated tax arrangements, for 90% of people it's a 5 minute job of logging on to the tax office website, reviewing the information they've collected, adding in a charitable donation or whatever that you want to claim (if you haven't been using the app to record that stuff as you do it) and hitting send. Pretty much all the information you need is automagically filled in for you. Then a few days later they deposit your tax refund into your bank account.

The only place I've ever gotten a $100 bill is from casino winnings. I still have it around as a trophy and emergency cash.

I've heard about the blue-collar workers who carry tens of thousands of dollars cash, which gets entertaining when they're busted for carrying meth.

Doppelganger
Oct 11, 2002

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
I worked in the stockroom at Macy's long ago and overheard this exchange.

Customer: This is marked 49.99, how can you charge me 52.76?
Saleswoman: The rest is sales tax.
Customer: ....That still don't follow!

This was a middle aged American woman who was just now learning about the concept of sales tax.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Doppelganger posted:

I worked in the stockroom at Macy's long ago and overheard this exchange.

Customer: This is marked 49.99, how can you charge me 52.76?
Saleswoman: The rest is sales tax.
Customer: ....That still don't follow!

This was a middle aged American woman who was just now learning about the concept of sales tax.

To be fair, this mystified me the first time I flew from Australia to America and learned that not every country has requirements for all quoted prices to be tax inclusive.

Also, having prices being quoted tax exclusive is ridiculous. How people accept this as being standard or good practice boggles the mind

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

iajanus posted:

To be fair, this mystified me the first time I flew from Australia to America and learned that not every country has requirements for all quoted prices to be tax inclusive.

Also, having prices being quoted tax exclusive is ridiculous. How people accept this as being standard or good practice boggles the mind

In fairness, sales tax in the US is set at a state and often even county level. It would be very difficult on a large business to do television advertising and whatnot if they had to have a different quoted price in multiple places a short drive apart. In Australia we have a single nationwide tax so it's easy.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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The Lord Bude posted:

In fairness, sales tax in the US is set at a state and often even county level. It would be very difficult on a large business to do television advertising and whatnot if they had to have a different quoted price in multiple places a short drive apart. In Australia we have a single nationwide tax so it's easy.

True, but there's nothing stopping them from advertising "$X + taxes" and then just having the actual prices instore (even just having two columns for price inc. and exc. tax, or small print next to items with the inc. price). It's ridiculous to be able to put up a signboard full of prices and every single one of them actually being completely different when it goes through the register. Every time we went through stores the amount things cost was basically a complete lucky dip of "listed price + handful of extra change and pray it's sufficient".

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


Chains would then need different signage for every state and sometimes city or county.

Maybe for high tourism areas it'd be a good idea but kids in the US are taught about taxes at a such a young age that it's mostly a nonissue.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Sankis posted:

Chains would then need different signage for every state and sometimes city or county.

Maybe for high tourism areas it'd be a good idea but kids in the US are taught about taxes at a such a young age that it's mostly a nonissue.

Which is true, but if chains in the US are doing what they're doing here that'll stop being an excuse soon too (eg. replacing all signage with screens since it's much cheaper and easier for them). The major chains here are all starting to use screens for all their signboards, and it's starting to happen in smaller chains, too.

Eh, it doesn't really matter, I just roll it into the same basket of "things the US just accepts and gets used to that a lot of countries around the world solved decades ago (see healthcare, transport, etc)". Derail over.

Raldikuk
Apr 7, 2006

I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!
It also has to do with many people being sales tax exempt. The price on the tag is the price of the good. Taxes are additional to that and for some non existent. Usually this is non profits or people buying goods to support resale (depends on state I'm sure).

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

iajanus posted:

Which is true, but if chains in the US are doing what they're doing here that'll stop being an excuse soon too (eg. replacing all signage with screens since it's much cheaper and easier for them). The major chains here are all starting to use screens for all their signboards, and it's starting to happen in smaller chains, too.

Eh, it doesn't really matter, I just roll it into the same basket of "things the US just accepts and gets used to that a lot of countries around the world solved decades ago (see healthcare, transport, etc)". Derail over.

I don't think you understand the scope of what you're suggesting.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Raldikuk posted:

It also has to do with many people being sales tax exempt. The price on the tag is the price of the good. Taxes are additional to that and for some non existent. Usually this is non profits or people buying goods to support resale (depends on state I'm sure).
Don't forget that what is and isn't taxed at all (and at what rate) changes from state and sometimes county/city as well. The advertisement in question would have to read "$9.99 plus tax, maybe" and put a huge burden on the companies that would then hike up prices to compensate. For no benefit. Actually negative benefit because it would make people think that something had changed and now all their mental math is useless oh god :byodame: which then means longer lines and more stress for the floor level workers who have to put up with 5000 new "what does this mean?!" questions and listening to 5000 new tirades at the register a day.

I mean it'd be real cool if we could just get on board with having everything be the same across city/county/state lines and simplify what is and isn't taxed but that will never ever ever happen because STATE'S RIGHTS OMFG

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Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Glenn Quebec posted:

I don't think you understand the scope of what you're suggesting.

It's been suggested in Australia as surge pricing a la Uber. I'd honestly be interested to see them try and run that, purely because of how much of an absolute garbage fire that would be in practice.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/surge-pricing-could-increase-supermarket-profits/8692908

Like, can you imagine how bad this would be for everyone.

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