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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

hooman posted:

I like how basically every time someone bothers to read Australia's constitution our entire parliamentary system goes into seizures.

EDIT: "Sir, a year 10 doing P&L has taken it upon himself to read the constitution"
"Oh god no, we have to stop him before it's too late"
*two days later*
"The High Court has ruled that this duck is actually the prime minister."

I knew Baloogan would be the end of us all.

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gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
ed balls

quote:

Prominent British Labour figure Ed Balls says neo-liberalism has failed but neither Jeremy Corbyn's socialism nor Donald Trump's nationalism are the remedy for the inequality which is driving the current political crisis gripping the west.

Mr Balls touches down in Australia on Wednesday for a week-long series of talks with former treasurer Wayne Swan and as a guest of the Labor think tank The Chifley Research Centre and the left-wing think tank The Australia Institute, to mark ten years since the global financial crisis.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

hooman posted:

I like how basically every time someone bothers to read Australia's constitution our entire parliamentary system goes into seizures.

EDIT: "Sir, a year 10 doing P&L has taken it upon himself to read the constitution"
"Oh god no, we have to stop him before it's too late"
*two days later*
"The High Court has ruled that this duck is actually the prime minister."

We regret to inform you the duck is racist.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Birdstrike posted:

We regret to inform you the duck is racist.

*duck personal approval ratings skyrocket*

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
It just occurred to me, with all the publicity surrounding the child sex abuse stuff and if marriage equality gets up, euthanasia is legalised and the confessional gets shat upon this is going to be an incredibly poo poo year for the Catholic Church in particular but all the other conservative religious groups as well.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Solemn Sloth posted:

*duck personal approval ratings skyrocket*

*duck drinks milkshake*

Milkshakes aren't Australian you loving duck!

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Good.

Just need to cut more government funding to religious based schools.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/Ann_SudmalisMP/status/897384610752901120

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Another plane has hit the dual citizen


http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/08/15/xenophon-rules-out-dual-citizenship posted:

Prominent crossbench senator Nick Xenophon is confident he has never held Greek or Cypriot citizenship.

The South Australian insists he contacted the Greek embassy and Cypriot High Commission in 2007 to renounce any citizenship claims.

But Senator Xenophon is not certain there's any official documented response to his renunciations.

"I'd have to go through literally boxes and boxes of archives from an election campaign 10 years ago," he said

"I have never had citizenship of another country, never wanted citizenship of another country."

Senator Xenophon was born to Greek and Cypriot parents at the Burnside War Memorial Hospital in Adelaide.

Senator Xenophon said his understanding from other MPs in a similar position was that those making such citizenship inquiries often don't receive a response.

"The issue of whether an MP is a dual citizen or not will be a festering farce until there has been a full audit of all MPs and senators and there needs to be a resolution through the High Court."

Labor senator Sam Dastyari appeared at the end of Senator Xenophon's doorstep for what looked like a set piece.

"I am not an Iranian citizen," Senator Dastyari said in Farsi.

"I am not a Greek or Cypriot citizen," Senator Xenophon said in Greek.

"We're feeling much more Aussie than our colleagues today," Senator Dastyari said in closing."

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exl4ka_Bc94

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003





And then there's a billion armchair lawyers in the replies insisting that being entitled counts because they glanced at 44(i) and didn't understand it.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Guys I'm worried that the New Zealand Labour party is up to something.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
All this talk about nukes and Nazis is distracting us from the real enemy, the new Zealand Labour Party.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

JBP posted:

All this talk about nukes and Nazis is distracting us from the real enemy, the new Zealand Labour Party.

Soon Australia will be known as the West island.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
This is loving art (Or at the least a bit of a moody hand job behind the bike shed).

Hidden behind so much fluff and bellicosity at the moment but:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-16/labor-and-greens-slam-dirty-media-law-deal-wth-one-nation/8810826

Never mind however, a new distraction looms:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-15/melbourne-council-votes-to-ban-references-to-australia-day/8810286

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Guys I'm worried that the New Zealand Labour party is up to something.

Please don't uncover our nefarious plot to make Tories look like hypocritical idiots.

OH NO, I'VE SAID TOO MUCH.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

pauline hanson bravely opening a second front to assist the coalition by questioning penny wong's citizenship

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you
https://twitter.com/dyrenfurth/status/897599483151831040

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
hey guys when can we start demonstrating against one nation

our pauline rode the "aussie trump" train all the way to the senate and imo it's time to make her choke on her words

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005


HOW DARE THEY

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

quote:

While criticism came from both sides of the political aisle, the left’s hysteria over Trump’s response to the Unite the Right rally packs no punch because the eagerness to label evil doesn’t stretch far beyond white supremacists. When it comes to putting a name on Islamic terrorism, the ­reaction is very different. It’s a case of what Mark Steyn calls tilty-headed wankerishness. No naming evil here, only candlelit vigils, hashtag campaigns and inclusive interfaith dialogues.

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005


What. I must know what this bullshit says.

Hang on, the title is different on the website, what could have caused that I wonder?


quote:

The US President routinely uses Twitter to slam all manner of people, from Democrats to Republicans to televisions hosts, in 140 characters or less.
His early tweets last weekend lacked their usual clarity when 20-year-old Ohio man James Alex Fields drove his grey Dodge into a crowd in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing a woman and injuring 19 others. Donald Trump should have mustered some fire and fury against the white supremacists, members of the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazis who marched on the weekend to anti-Semitic chants and homophobic rants in Charlottes­ville.

While criticism came from both sides of the political aisle, the left’s hysteria over Trump’s response to the Unite the Right rally packs no punch because the eagerness to label evil doesn’t stretch far beyond white supremacists. When it comes to putting a name on Islamic terrorism, the ­reaction is very different. It’s a case of what Mark Steyn calls tilty-headed wankerishness. No naming evil here, only candlelit vigils, hashtag campaigns and inclusive interfaith dialogues.

In March, after 52-year-old Briton Khalid Masood drove a car into pedestrians on Westminster Bridge, the Dean of Westminster, John R. Hall, announced that the nation was bewildered.

“What could possibly ­motivate a man to hire a car and take it from Birmingham to Brighton to London, and then drive it fast at people he had never met, couldn’t possibly know, against whom he had no personal grudge, no reason to hate them, and then run at the gates of the Palace of Westminster to cause another death? It seems likely that we shall never know,” Hall said soon after the attack.

Except we did know. But when it comes to Islamic terrorism, labelling evil gives over to mumbling, fumbling dissembling. It’s a curious lapse in moral clarity given that Islamic terrorists have no time for Christianity, let alone religious freedoms or women and the feminist cause, or homosexuals, let alone LGBTI rights.

The thundering hysteria against Trump after Charlottesville is another case of the left’s wonky moral compass.

CNN hosts censured Trump for not immediately condemning the white supremacists spoiling for a fight last weekend. But the faces of CNN didn’t rally to label evil when an Islamic terrorist ploughed into pedestrians on Westminster Bridge, or when another Islamic terrorist rammed a truck at a crowd at a Berlin Christmas market, or when an Islamic terrorist mowed down pedestrians on a promenade in Nice on Bastille Day last year.

After an Islamic terrorist detonated a bomb and murdered teenagers at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester in May, London mayor Sadiq Khan didn’t condemn Islamic State — even though the terrorist group claimed responsibility. It was the same in June after three Islamic terrorists mowed into pedestrians on London Bridge before going from bar to bar, stabbing and slicing at patrons with 30cm hunting knives. Not even a clue from one of the ­Islamic terrorists, who shouted “This is for Allah” before stabbing a woman more than 10 times, helped Khan name the evil.

A fortnight ago, after Australian security authorities foiled an alleged plot to bomb an Etihad Airways flight out of Sydney, Islamic Council of Queensland spokesman Ali Kadri lodged a complaint when Australian Federal Police Commissioner Andrew Colvin described the evil plot as “Islamic-inspired terrorism”.

Why wasn’t the Muslim group condemned by opinionated hosts at the ABC for refusing to name the alleged evil given their eagerness to condemn Trump for the same error of judgment this week? For the same reason three days after the violence in Charlottesville, the ABC was still leading its news bulletins with Trump’s reaction yet it can barely bring itself to say Islamic or even Islamist ­terrorism; truth in labelling is an ad hoc business on the left.
When Man Haron Monis held hostages at gunpoint in Sydney’s Lindt cafe in December 2014, many on the left rushed to suggest he was mad, not bad. The coroner found otherwise, but it’s a standard response when violence is committed in the name of Islam. No one suggested the 20-year-old driver in Charlottesville was mad, not bad.

When Islamic terrorists strike, we are correctly reminded not to tar all Muslims with the actions of a few. The same may be said of those who marched in Charlottesville. Not all of them are anti-­Semitic nutters or Klansmen or neo-Nazis. Not all of them drove a car into the crowd. But no one warned against tarring everyone at the Unite the Right rally.

Instead, a determined ignorance defines the modern left. Charlottesville mayor and Democrat activist Michael Signer said: “I place the blame for a lot of what you’re seeing in America today right at the doorstep of the White House.” They also could lay the blame for the widespread illiberalism and violence erupting across American campuses at the feet of the divisive identity politics ­fuelled by Democrats such as Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
It’s a hard truth for the left that the Obama presidency begat the Trump presidency. Rather than blame Trump, it’s worth exploring how the rise of white supremacist groups is an inevitable consequence of identity group politics where groups vie for prominence on the basis of skin colour, race, creed, gender and sexuality.

Writing in The New York Times last year, self-described liberal Mark Lilla concluded that American liberalism had become a flawed movement based on the politics of moral panic about ­racial, gender and sexual identity that prevented it from being a unifying force.

Last week Lilla added to his compelling critique in The Wall Street Journal: “There is a mystery at the core of every suicide, and the story of how a once-successful liberal politics of solidarity became a failed liberal politics of ‘difference’ is not a simple one. Perhaps the best place to begin it is with a slogan: The personal is the political.” As Lilla says, the phrase coined by feminists to unite people has been turned on its head to mean the political is the personal, where the “forces are all centrifugal, encouraging splits into smaller and smaller factions obsessed with single issues and practising rituals of ideological one-upmanship”. The result is a movement that divides people rather than bringing them together.

What’s left of the left is a marketplace of outrage where emotion and politics trump intel­lectual honesty and moral clarity. From blinkered feminists who refuse to focus on real misogyny in the Middle East to human rights activists who mock free speech, from same-sex marriage advocates who trample on tolerance to those who demand that only white supremacists, not Islamic terrorists, be named and shamed, the left has become a hollow shell of hyperbole and hypocrisy.

Claims against Trump and his supporters will have real clout and credibility when the needle on the left’s faulty moral compass stops swinging so feverishly in one direction.

I actually haven't read all that. I got to the "BUT WHAT ABOUT MOOOOSLEMS" part and instantly switched off

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Nazi apologists gone wild!

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
We gotta stick up for the nazis because they're /our guy/

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
It's almost like being against the murder and expulsion of all muslims because one muslim committed a crime and being against the Nazis/KKK is a consistent stance...

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

To be fair to Trump, he can't badmouth hardcore racists when they are his voter base. It's not his policies are winning over anybody else.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Today on Hack: The Holocaust, was it really that bad?

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

It's not fair that the big bad ABC get to walk all over poor little Murdoch.

I wonder what the Lnp will give Xenophon to buy his vote.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

in light of his overnight press disaster thats even worse

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Today on Hack: The Holocaust, did it really happen, and if it did, was it really that bad?

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

"Bagel Jewstein calling in just wanting to say that the fake holocaust has been a really great tool for us filthy Jews to control the media and create the new world order. Also I'm definitely a Jewish man and am in favor of white genocide."

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Did the guy that rang up as Herschel put on an "oy vey" accent at the very least?

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

hooman posted:

"Bagel Jewstein calling in just wanting to say that the fake holocaust has been a really great tool for us filthy Jews to control the media and create the new world order. Also I'm definitely a Jewish man and am in favor of white genocide."

IWC get off the phone, you're drunk.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

JBP posted:

Did the guy that rang up as Herschel put on an "oy vey" accent at the very least?

Unfortunately not.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


Mr Balls

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Today on Hack: Hitler, the most misunderstood artist of his generation. Today we have art critic and known Hitler biographer David Duke to discuss.

Tomorrow we will have a different guest, but for now David Duke.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
So I have a friend that was an army officer for 8 years and I was talking about the Nazis in Melbourne and his response was "six hours, one night. My guys could solve it in six hours. Easy."

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Hugo Stiglitz?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Where are the Nazis in Melbourne?

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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Outer eastern suburbs mainly. Government policy globally should be "we signed a treaty with Germany, but are still at war with Nazis".

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