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NancyPants posted:You guys, this tax protestor FAQ is a goldmine. Remember kids, the law is actually a magic spell. If you find the right combination of arcane syllables, you can bend it to your will.
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That's not totally untrue.
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Aug 16, 2017 00:09
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Lowness 72 posted:What does couldn't get classes mean? Like he doesn't qualify for 300 level classes? Don't universities have offices that specifically help you chart out your path? They do, but if you're a gently caress up you can completely ignore them! I knew someone who was lazy and declined the (free) academic counseling and as a consequence took five years to graduate undergrad instead of four because he took courses for an engineering major in the wrong order, they weren't all offered every quarter, and he had to wait two quarters to take a course that was a requirement for the major. It's a very expensive mistake.
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Aug 16, 2017 00:35
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Subjunctive posted:That's not totally untrue. "Your Honor, absolutely no law on the books prevented the bank I run from structuring subprime loans to take maximum advantage those both stupid enough to take them and equally stupid enough to invest in securities backing them, or even those who aren't stupid but didn't read the fine print" vs. "Sir - first, please tell me which of the two fictitious personas that comprise my identity must answer the question, followed by explaining why a court that clearly, per this stamped document - pay attention to the order of stamps please, there is a penalty if you don't, payable in pure silver - only has jurisdiction over the waters surrounding, and within, the land and not the land itself has jurisdiction over the person I am representing here today, who is not me, see the :: in my name and also the font used"
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legendof posted:They do, but if you're a gently caress up you can completely ignore them! I knew someone who was lazy and declined the (free) academic counseling and as a consequence took five years to graduate undergrad instead of four because he took courses for an engineering major in the wrong order, they weren't all offered every quarter, and he had to wait two quarters to take a course that was a requirement for the major. It's a very expensive mistake. Five years to do an engineering degree is hardly a fuckup - lot of people have to take an extra term after their fourth year anyway so it's hardly the end of the world.
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Barry posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/6tx8rc/im_broke_all_my_credit_cards_are_maxed_and_i_have/ quote:Whomever is home with baby should be on mturk at all times going their side jobs This commenter also suggested camming("solo or as a couple") for cash. At least that might actually bring in money, but really, just get rid of the drat car.
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That guy's dad rules for giving him such bad advice about the car payment. "Yeah my son, they can't take money ya don't have." *Racks up potentially hundreds of dollars in overdraft charges and blows up his credit for a car that's 1 payment away from being paid off.*
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Haifisch posted:but really, just get rid of the drat car. Guarantee they are underwater on it.
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For those who enjoy tax protester schadenfreude (or are just legal nerds) this is a goldmine http://tpgurus.wikidot.com/quote:William T. Conklin claims to be successful in fighting the IRS, and has described himself as a “known tax protester like Jesus Christ, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and George Washington.” Conklin v. United States, KTC 1994-259, 1994 WL 374410, Case No. 89-N-1514 (D. Col. 5/2/1994), aff'd . Unfortunately, his claims of success are contradicted by the public record, because he has lost every case on record. See, e.g., Conklin v. Commissioner, 91 T.C. 41 (1988); Church of World Peace, Inc. v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo 1992-318; Church of World Peace, Inc. v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo 1994-87; Church of World Peace, Inc. v IRS, 715 F.2d 492; United States v. Church of World Peace, 775 F.2d 265; Conklin v. United States, 812 F.2d 1318; Conklin v. C.I.R., 897 F.2d 1032 (10th Cir. 1990); Tavery v. United States, 897 F.2d 1027; Tavery v. United States, Civ. No. 87-Z-180 (USDC Col.); Tavery v. United States, No. 91-S-222 (D. Col.), aff'd 32 F.3d 1423, KTC 1994-389, No. 91-1376 (10th Cir. 1994). lol Wesley Snipes is on the website Sadly Red Crayons (the main site of hilarious sovcit stories) is offline now.
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Youth Decay posted:For those who enjoy tax protester schadenfreude (or are just legal nerds) this is a goldmine http://tpgurus.wikidot.com/ The best thing about Snipes' case is that he didn't just fall for a tax avoidance scheme, he fell for the Section 861 scheme, which is quite possibly the dumbest of them all. Not dumb as in "bat-poo poo crazy/how do they keep a straight face" just dumb as in "how loving dumb do you have to be to believe this could work?" Though "dumbest" is certainly open to debate.
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Ixian posted:The best thing about Snipes' case is that he didn't just fall for a tax avoidance scheme, he fell for the Section 861 scheme, which is quite possibly the dumbest of them all. Not dumb as in "bat-poo poo crazy/how do they keep a straight face" just dumb as in "how loving dumb do you have to be to believe this could work?" How does that one "work"
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:How does that one "work" http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2003/07/americas_oddest_tax_dodge.html
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Ixian posted:The best thing about Snipes' case is that he didn't just fall for a tax avoidance scheme, he fell for the Section 861 scheme, which is quite possibly the dumbest of them all. Not dumb as in "bat-poo poo crazy/how do they keep a straight face" just dumb as in "how loving dumb do you have to be to believe this could work?" I mean there are real tax schemes that happen where I think "there's no way this could work" like how Romey shoved a hundred milli into an IRA through accounting magic.
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Famous tax protester Jesus Harvey 'Render unto Caesar what is Caeser's' Christ.
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Dillbag posted:http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2003/07/americas_oddest_tax_dodge.html That doesn't actually explain it, but https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_861_argument does.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/6tza1g/around_30k_in_credit_card_debt_need_advice_please/quote:25 yr old with parents around 60 yrs of age who live with me who I also support. I sympathize for someone breaking their back to help keep their parents afloat but that bold part... woops.
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quote:I lost an additional income of $1200 back in Oct 2015 and have been looking for additional work. That loss has put up the debt. In response to someone telling him he needs to make more money. 22 months ago. Rough times but as the posters pointed out, his expenses are noticeably larger than his income. opposable thumbs.db fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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Inescapable Duck posted:Famous tax protester Jesus Harvey 'Render unto Caesar what is Caeser's' Christ. Well, to be fair he also drew distinction between his person and his flesh and blood so I can see the confusion
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canyoneer posted:Well, to be fair he also drew distinction between his person and his flesh and blood so I can see the confusion 
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literally everything is wrong there but how is the reaction to having car issues "yea let me get a 72 month high interest note on a Volkswagen Jetta"
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Today on the adventures of SovCit Jesus: Look Judge Levi I fuckin told you, this bread is my body, if you're gonna collect taxes against my person you gotta collect from the bread, and gently caress you my dad can too declare me as a dependent, he can declare all your asses as dependents. *a Roman Legionnaire tazes Jesus*
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Am I being detained screams Jesus as they nail him to the cross
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817963 The GBS version of this thread has some really depressing stories
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Am I being detained screams Jesus as they nail him to the cross Are you nailing the fictional person or the flesh and blood man to the cr ow ow ow ow ow ok it's flesh and blood ow
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canyoneer posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817963 Looks like I won't be getting very much work done this afternoon
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canyoneer posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817963 Barry posted:Looks like I won't be getting very much work done this afternoon Goddammit.
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canyoneer posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817963 It's like every stupid decision I've ever made trying to save money concentrated into a miserly paste.
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Springfield Fatts posted:My friend is a cheap rear end in a top hat. The last time I visited him Chicago he made me and my wife ride 20 minutes on the metro to go to this "great Chinese place he knows." It was completely unremarkable, and confusing as hell because he lived in what was known as the Little Saigon area of town and there were dozens of better options right outside his door. Then the mystery was solved at check time when he pulled out a buy one meal, get one free coupon out of his wallet. Of course he used the "free" meal for his own as we paid for ours. And he wonders why he's single. Amazing
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My BWM story is relatively boring and minor. I have a friend, well, more of an acquaintance I keep in touch with from my old High School days. He at-most brings in about 30k yearly before taxes and wanted to build a gaming PC so I showed him some really sensible builds he could do or buy prebuilt. I bumped into him recently and he ended up building some dual 1080 ti SLI monstrosity with 64gb of RAM and a boatload of extras he would never in a million years need. I ended up doing the math and he spent around 12k building this thing. I told him to hit me up to play online at least considering he sunk a third of his yearly income into this thing. I then come to find out he doesn't even have broadband at his house so he can't download anything to play.
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that's some purestrain bwm for sure kind of similar, but my friend wanted to get into pc gaming for the first time in his life and bought a "gaming pc" that didn't have a graphics card, so he was playing pubg in a tiny window at like 5 frames per second for weeks at least it was cheap, and i ended up giving him my old graphics card that runs pubg reasonably well, so it worked out in the end
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Bwm: doing all that work on dayz to get poo poo on by pubg.
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Virigoth posted:Bwm: doing all that work on dayz to get poo poo on by pubg. it's the same guy who made all the battle royale games
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I just asked said acquaintance about his lack of internet and apparently he does videos demonstrating his PC and unboxing lootcrates (lol), he just has to upload them on free wifi networks like McDonalds or Starbucks.
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Aug 17, 2017 05:38
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Like buying a Ferrari when you don't have a license.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Like buying a Ferrari when you don't have a license. Or a Lamborghini with a manual transmission when you only have 1 arm.
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DJCobol posted:Or a Lamborghini with a manual transmission when you only have 1 arm. BWM is more about harm reduction when you think about it
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canyoneer posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817963 I'm a little turned off though by how they keep presenting guys not wanting to throw away thousands and thousands on blood diamonds as being "cheap"
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Nail Rat posted:I'm a little turned off though by how they keep presenting guys not wanting to throw away thousands and thousands on blood diamonds as being "cheap" You dropped your fedora
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You can a non-blood diamond if you'd rather. The whole thing is symbolic. Why not plastic, if the material doesn't matter? People only like moissanite because it pretends to be diamond. That's fine, but it's worth asking why you get a ring at all (hint: because she wants one).
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Nail Rat posted:I'm a little turned off though by how they keep presenting guys not wanting to throw away thousands and thousands on blood diamonds as being "cheap" Okay but the one where he bought a box on eBay and then a cheap fake ring and told her that it was whatever brand was p lovely
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