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Shear Modulus posted:Two years additional new person question: how important is what's done on a national level, anyway? is paralysis from dumb lefto-typical infighting actually all that much of a problem?
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Insanite posted:additional new person question: all national really does is set basic policy and endorse candidates. all this will do is prevent them from forcing monthly dues to be the standard. there is basically no downside to the NPC not being able to do poo poo
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Syndlig posted:Speaking of, Sept. 2 white supremacists are coming to Austin and planning to hold an armed march on the capitol, where there is a rally of SB4 protesters. Since this is permitted, the cops will be protecting them. It also starts outside the county jail. If you're able to come down to Austin and are arrestable or have medic skills, please keep an ear out. We're trying to get their permit rescinded, and hopefully even failing that it'll be like the June march where it was 50 fascists hiding behind a wall of cops for 3 hours. Have you sought a permit as well? I mean no reason not to.
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Karl Barks posted:I think DSA members being injured in a clash with literal nazis is going to be play more of a role in people's mind than 1 old dude on a 16(?) person leadership board. This is a good point, and why I'm positive about the organization no matter what happens with him. He still needs to step down. CLEAT endorsed laws aimed at making it legal to run over protesters, we don't need people trying to reconcile all that.
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the really important thing is whether the dsa will adopt my slogan: let's cuck capitalism!
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Phi230 posted:Gainesville is now disallowing Spencer to speak
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Insanite posted:additional new person question: yeah the npc never mattered before in terms of what happened with local chapters, i doubt that changes much
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given this information, i can only conclude that now is the time to dissolve the npc and implement full anarcho-communism
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a good guy and a front line fighter suffered a stroke yesterday after being attack by nazi scum on friday. family has set up a gofundme and the goal has been reached but it might not be enough. worth sharing here https://www.gofundme.com/tylers-stroke-of-genius
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Insanite posted:given this information, i can only conclude that now is the time to dissolve the npc and implement full anarcho-communism Just as planned 
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Insanite posted:additional new person question: Given the huge inflationary period in membership, the locals is where poo poo gets done; kinda was like that before, but even moreso now
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Business Gorillas posted:Like Jesus Christ lol DSA chapters are tearing down confederate statues and bullying white supremacists into cancelling their events and all you guys can do is whine about 3 week old drama? sure as gently caress easier than organizing
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Insanite posted:given this information, i can only conclude that now is the time to dissolve the npc and implement full anarcho-communism Replace the NPC with the national spokes council, but for real.
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Tercio posted:sure as gently caress easier than organizing Welcome back!
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Eustace posted:Welcome back! hello friend
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lol I made one post about it, it's far from the only thing I care about
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Business Gorillas posted:Like Jesus Christ lol DSA chapters are tearing down confederate statues and bullying white supremacists into cancelling their events and all you guys can do is whine about 3 week old drama? Haven't heard a word about it here in NH. We're holding a teleconference to organize transportation and stuff into Boston for the counter demonstration on Saturday.
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Tercio posted:sure as gently caress easier than organizing Most people angry about Fetonte hold leadership positions in chapters, cool liberal can't walk and chew bubbl gum at the same time logic tho
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Ace of Baes posted:cool liberal can't walk and chew bubbl gum at the same time logic tho It's tru tho, you can't gently caress and organize at the same time. Volcel life
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i'm looking for resources on mutual-aid. getting the branch involved with it but extremely wary of falling into volunteerism. we have a lot of recently radicalized-and-still-radicalizing liberals that can't meaningfully distinguish it from charity work, and i don't know enough to be able to cleanly delineate those differences for them.
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I dont know how you can look at the events in the last few days and say that the DSA doesn't organize.
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Impermanent posted:i'm looking for resources on mutual-aid. getting the branch involved with it but extremely wary of falling into volunteerism. we have a lot of recently radicalized-and-still-radicalizing liberals that can't meaningfully distinguish it from charity work, and i don't know enough to be able to cleanly delineate those differences for them. think about if the project reinforces the structures of capital by essentially subsidizing exploitation (aca, food stamps, etc) or weakens or undermines the structures of capital (medicare for all, fight for $15, etc). im sure plenty of people disagree with me on this but that's how i look at programs that we should be devoting our finite energy to. my advice would be if someone is proposing misdirected charity work that you think about the underlying cause/sentiment and see if there is a way for your chapter to get involved in a way that works against capitalism.
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I'm very confident an organization that can't find out what to do about a dirty pig in its ranks will be able to lead us to a brighter future, imo
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call to action posted:I'm very confident an organization that can't find out what to do about a dirty pig in its ranks will be able to lead us to a brighter future, imo okay, well, see ya
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Karl Barks posted:okay, well, see ya not the pig though, he stays edit: sorry, stays while he's being 'mediated with'
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gently caress off nazi
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On the new episode of delete your account DSA members who were at Charlottesville during the protest call for Fetonte to step down.
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he's now literally a cop lmao
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Raskolnikov38 posted:gently caress off nazi is what you should be saying to the cops in your ranks
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call to action posted:is what you should be saying to the cops in your ranks looking at your post history, you are Perpetually Angry so I get it now
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Karl Barks posted:he's now literally a cop lmao hes worse
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an actual dog posted:Volcel life
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man this rl stephens guy sounds pretty smart
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and yet hes on the NPC so unfortunately a cop collaborator, send him to the recycling tanks
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rl stephens is fuckin rad
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what is it about alaska that makes the best socialists.
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Al-Saqr posted:what is it about alaska that makes the best socialists. They can see Russia from their houses. 
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