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Good thing this is all loving fiction. Let yourselves have fun. It's only tits and dragons.
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WampaLord posted:I can already tell what will be the Goony Derail Point for this episode. Westerosi or Essosian?
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Aug 16, 2017 19:58
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They really did miss a cool moment to have Bran see that poo poo and long range warg into the dragon and make it go to them
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Aug 16, 2017 19:59
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Seph posted:Westerosi or Essos? Well, I don't know-AAAAARRRRGGGHHH *flies off bridge like Balon*
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Aug 16, 2017 20:00
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Are the ravens unladen???
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Aug 16, 2017 20:01
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They can average 50mph over long distances so a couple days from the wall to dragonstone (as the crow flies  ) feels about right.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:02
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Soul Glo posted:They really did miss a cool moment to have Bran see that poo poo and long range warg into the dragon and make it go to them Alternatively have Drogons ears pop up like "There's a Targarian in trouble" and have an adorable Lassie like scene where he tries to convince Dany that Jon fell down a well.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:02
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I must have missed a line somewhere. Why were all the zombos just standing there at first until Clegane chucked t he rock? Was it the NK just being a dick as usual?
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Aug 16, 2017 20:02
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Waiting for the lake to freeze over again, I think. Which begs the question: what was stopping the undead from walking along the lake floor during the night? They don't feel cold or need to breathe.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:04
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Seph posted:I didn't get the impression that it was a pre-planned trap by the white walkers. I thought they were staying far away from the action because they know they are vulnerable now and want to stay safe. Similar to commanders who often stay behind their troops in battle. Because the NK, his lieutenants and entire army sat there watching them blankly for anywhere from a night to 2 days and did nothing. He could've refrozen the lake himself, he has utter control over ice.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:05
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grack posted:I still don't think Clarke and Harrington have a lot of chemistry but at least it was better. I think their inevitable sex scene would be better if it's Davos dressed up as Jon and Tyrion as Kelly C. Yestermoment posted:I must have missed a line somewhere. Why were all the zombos just standing there at first until Clegane chucked t he rock? The dude wanted a Dragon?
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Aug 16, 2017 20:05
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Skinty McEdger posted:Alternatively have Drogons ears pop up like "There's a Targarian in trouble" and have an adorable Lassie like scene where he tries to convince Dany that Jon fell down a well. Oh poo poo he DID fall down a well didn't he? Now all we need is a tell all documentary detailing the cast's frustration with the dragon trying to hump everything. Really liked that something finally happened this episode.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:06
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The real answer is that the ravens fly at the speed of plot, just like the dragons/boats/armies/whatever.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Alternatively have Drogons ears pop up like "There's a Targarian in trouble" and have an adorable Lassie like scene where he tries to convince Dany that Jon fell down a well. I think Jon should have assumed a tai chi stance and closed his eyes like Dany did in the fighting pits of Mereen to summon Drogon.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:07
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re: davos and tyrion cosplaying May as well. Those two have been doing all the legwork to make us believe Jon and Dany like eachother, rather than having scenes of Jon and Dany establishing it themselves.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:07
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Why didn't Jon go to Dany and tell her:"yo, let's talk here. You have dragons and are hot. I'm going to kneel before you and give you the Lord's Kiss if you agree to fight the White Walkers. Now, I understand you don't believe me how great this threat is, but how about this - you take your dragon and go on an aerial recon tour of the area north of the wall and see it for yourself. Maybe you can even take me with you, I know a certain cave there that's really romantic."
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Aug 16, 2017 20:08
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I'm watching the last 10 minutes for the first time now and god is the Arya + Sansa scene ridiculously bad. Who the gently caress cares about your teen angst Arya, wasn't the whole moto about how the group survives while the lone wolf dies??? wasn't this like your entire character arc???
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Aug 16, 2017 20:10
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Of course it was a trap, they would have just murder deathed the lot of them via bear or when they were taking the captive if it hadn't been. Minions were told who to kill and who to let live, which is why they took out the Mage with a Rez spec first. The big question is how did they know she would be coming to save Jon, and the exact point to attack them so Dany would be coming in to rescue them all from a fight, rather than a deeply suspicious encirclement? Efficient scouts could account for the latter, but knowing Jon was in dragonstone and the rest of it is something not entirely explained by Bran.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:12
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My big question is this: since it was clearly a trap and NK has some kind of foresight, why did he still let everyone live? Why did he kill airborne Viserion rather than grounded Drogon? If he needs a dragon to get past the wall he can get one and kill his main enemy all at once. Unless he needs Jon or Dany for something else in the future? Was he scared that not letting them get away could lead to one of the remaining two dragons killing him? hosed if I know. hosed if it will ever be explained.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:14
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If Qyburn is a white walker collaborator who's been feeking the Night's King information it kinda sorta makes sense and explains the sequence of events. Kind of.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:17
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Like he could have killed all the humans and gotten maybe even more than one dragon out of it.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:18
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learnincurve posted:Of course it was a trap, they would have just murder deathed the lot of them via bear or when they were taking the captive if it hadn't been. Minions were told who to kill and who to let live, which is why they took out the Mage with a Rez spec first. The big question is how did they know she would be coming to save Jon, and the exact point to attack them so Dany would be coming in to rescue them all from a fight, rather than a deeply suspicious encirclement? Have you learned nothing from Arya Durden? Everything on this dumb show is exactly as it appears, no matter how dumb and there is nothing to read between the lines
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Aug 16, 2017 20:19
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I really can't loving believe Arya just has a loving bag of faces.  It's just the least creative way to portray her ability. Ja'qen didn't need a loving actual face to do his thing!
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Aug 16, 2017 20:21
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WampaLord posted:I really can't loving believe Arya just has a loving bag of faces. Wait, this isn't normal? poo poo...
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Aug 16, 2017 20:22
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esperterra posted:re: davos and tyrion cosplaying It's a shame that they didn't adjust the story when the two main characters turned out to be the shittiest actors. Imagine if Jon had died at the battle of the bastards and Dany at the siege of Mereen and the focus had shifted to Davos/Tyrion. Then following them trying to keep poo poo together and defeat the white walkers while at the same time discovering feelings for each other. Probably would have had better chemistry than Jon/Dany.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:23
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If he could kill a dragon with a badly thrown wobbly spear, he probably would have shot killed everyone else there with snowballs.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:24
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Arrows and spears do, in fact, wobble in flight.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:26
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I just realized that the last time the Others went to war, it was against the First Men, a culture with bronze weapons. They have never encountered Valyrian steel before
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Aug 16, 2017 20:27
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grack posted:Arrows and spears do, in fact, wobble in flight. Do you not get that maybe you want to prioritize visual impact and not be "tactireal" in the tits and dragons show? It'd have looked cooler if it flew straight, cause it's loving magic anyway.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:28
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WampaLord posted:Do you not get that maybe you want to prioritize visual impact and not be "tactireal" in the tits and dragons show? 90% of the posts in this thread are complaining about poo poo not being realistic and now you're complaining about something in the show actually being realistic.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:30
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esperterra posted:My big question is this: since it was clearly a trap and NK has some kind of foresight, why did he still let everyone live? Why did he kill airborne Viserion rather than grounded Drogon? If he needs a dragon to get past the wall he can get one and kill his main enemy all at once. He can't kill Jon because he loves his brother. Night King is Bran. It is known.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:31
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:I just realized that the last time the Others went to war, it was against the First Men, a culture with bronze weapons. They have never encountered Valyrian steel before Ive misread your post and now I cannot stop thinking about Otters leading a zombie army against humanity (I had totally forgotten they call the WW "others" in the books)
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Aug 16, 2017 20:33
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"Night King set a trap" = "Shannon got stabbed"
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Aug 16, 2017 20:33
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Why would Cersei have trouble believing zombies exist considering that her bodyguard is one
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Aug 16, 2017 20:33
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LinYutang posted:Why would Cersei have trouble believing zombies exist considering that her bodyguard is one Have they come right out and said he's a zombie? Maybe he's just a dude packed to the eyes with chems to keep him from being dead.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:35
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:I just realized that the last time the Others went to war, it was against the First Men, a culture with bronze weapons. They have never encountered Valyrian steel before The last hero wielded a dragonsteel sword according to some scroll Sam reads at the castle black library.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:36
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Do dany and jon gently caress tho
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Aug 16, 2017 20:37
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grack posted:90% of the posts in this thread are complaining about poo poo not being realistic and now you're complaining about something in the show actually being realistic. Those people are dumb. It's a loving fantasy show with dragons.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:39
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Parkingtigers posted:Arya sucked, but it's just becoming more obvious what a weak actress Maisie Williams is. Nice kid, but ehhh she's not great. Sophie Williams has grown into a goddamn star though, they lucked out with her. She carried those scenes.
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Chadzok posted:jesus christ the teleporting bullshit is just dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. loving dumb, jesus christ. I can't even enjoy the good bits of the show because it's just so poo poo.  Captain Splendid posted:The whole first half was the fellowship exchanging banter in such a way that they wanted you to think they were going to die. That was pretty obvious. Arya sucks and she is a bad actor
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