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evilweasel posted:republicans are starting to admit there's no way in hell tax reform happens of course it isnt. and we probaly wont have a loving budget either and will probaly have shutdown. 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Yes. Engage in a training regimen that will take *years* to bear fruit - and take months to research the providers in your area who are honest. If someone teaching you ~martial arts~ tells you that it'll enable you to take on someone who has fifty pounds and six inches of reach on you - congratulations - you've wasted your money on a huckster as bad as Donald Trump. This is like 50 pages ago but bears repeating because it's good advice.
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I am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.
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I think I've figured out where we can store all those racist monuments. Somewhere out of the way with lots of empty storage space, that we can just lock up and it'll be forgotten for decades.
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^^^^ Geraldo's head?DreamShipWrecked posted:Incredible how they were several paces away from anyone that wasn't a facist and let he magically got sprayed. Not only that but the pepper SPRAY seemed to remain entirely focused on one individual who was prepared and ready to take it and literally no one else in the vicinity. What really gets me is that 4chan wants to have it both ways; they want to tag random people for assault with a bike lock and running people down with a car, but they also want to "mysteriously" be blind to who could've maced this poor innocent Nazi gently caress.
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SirPablo posted:Trump is holding a rally here in Phoenix next Tuesday. Looking like large protest will also take place. We have a thread for participating in events like this? Also known as the biweekly trump shits the bed and needs his dick sucked by his base when everyone tells him why he sucks again rally. How many rallies did Obama have in his first year? Any?
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Sovereign Citizens and Neo-Nazis are two different groups, so yes. I think you'll find a lot of overlap in that vienn diagram.
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Lemon King posted:Oh hey look. Lee's views on Confederate Monuments. So Robert E. Lee had less of an attachment to the Confederacy than modern day Republicans do?
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Ague Proof posted:I think I've figured out where we can store all those racist monuments. Somewhere out of the way with lots of empty storage space, that we can just lock up and it'll be forgotten for decades. 
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Ague Proof posted:I think I've figured out where we can store all those racist monuments. Somewhere out of the way with lots of empty storage space, that we can just lock up and it'll be forgotten for decades. I'm hoping this is a Capone's vault reference. If so, 
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Mr Interweb posted:So Robert E. Lee had less of an attachment to the Confederacy than modern day Republicans do? Lee killed American soldiers in the name of the Confederacy. Republicans haven't done that.... Yet.
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Break it to me straight, US-goons: The councils that disbanded today, were they important in the long run? Or were they just for show?
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Mr Interweb posted:So Robert E. Lee had less of an attachment to the Confederacy than modern day Republicans do? yeah. the american civil war redefined how americans conceptualized america. before the war people were more likely to think of themselves as residents of a city, state, or region and not "i am an american". so even after the war former confederates didn't really hold on to their confederate identity versus just going back to a virginian or whatever. and remember lee spent more time serving in the united states army than the confederate army. for a lot of these guys it was just a particularly ugly four years, they didn't have decades of lost cause excuses glorifying the confederacy. they were there, they fought, they lost, they moved on Wark Say posted:Break it to me straight, US-goons: The councils that disbanded today, were they important in the long run? Or were they just for show? just for show, which is why it's extra dumb that trump couldn't even keep the symbolic advisory councils intact without tycoons of industry feeling the need to publicly distance themselves from the president of the united states boner confessor fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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Wark Say posted:Break it to me straight, US-goons: The councils that disbanded today, were they important in the long run? Or were they just for show? Just for show, AFAIK
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Wark Say posted:Break it to me straight, US-goons: The councils that disbanded today, were they important in the long run? Or were they just for show? their most significant achievements were giving the president a nice press conference and creating some letterhead. unlike the opioid commission, they've done close to nothing. them being disbanded does threaten trump's self-image as a economic genius, though
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/897946889915584512 It's always good to remember that Trump always lies. The man is literally incapable of telling the truth.
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:Can you really do the sledgehammer + tire thing with a collapsible baton? It's just a pell, dude. Same thing people have been beating with sticks to learn how to deliver a blow with a handheld weapon for millennia.
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Mr Interweb posted:So Robert E. Lee had less of an attachment to the Confederacy than modern day Republicans do? Robert E Lee basically chose the side his state ended up on as far as I've ever been able to tell
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Columbus's arrival didn't "ignite" genocide incidentally, Columbus was literally a committer of genocide and absolutely should not be honored. Although a bad human being, I'm a little skeptical that CC and his occupation force personally murdered 3 million people.
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There Bias Two posted:Just for show, AFAIK
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Liquid Communism posted:It's just a pell, dude. Same thing people have been beating with sticks to learn how to deliver a blow with a handheld weapon for millennia. Christ if you haven't felt a collapsible baton before they're scary as hell. They fit anywhere and they are loving solid. They're definitely a deadly weapon. Someone told me once to just whack someone in the collarbone with it and they'll be down for the count for a few months.
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pumpinglemma posted:No, any argument along those lines is called a "heckler's veto" (because it would allow anyone to suppress anyone else's speech by being sufficiently violent) and is essentially never a valid argument in First Amendment law. For Brandenburg vs. Ohio, the speech itself has to call for imminent lawless action - it's an extremely hard standard to meet. For example "This guy's house should be burned down" is protected speech but "Let's burn this guy's house down now" is not. In other words, the decision is a ridiculous crock of poo poo that removes any possibility of meaningful incitement charges for anything short of standing at the head of an angry mob and shouting orders. I disagree that it's a bad decision. It abolished nasty laws that had been used with thin justification to ban all sorts of speech on the grounds that it advocated for something illegal. Where I think the law falls down these days is failing to seriously wrestle with the nature of generalized threats of violence. It's not a first amendment issue for me to ban threatening to kill you. However it is a first amendment issue to ban marchers from brandishing weapons and calling generally, vaugely in the future, to kill the blacks/jews/etc. I don't think that should be punished as incitement: that should be punished as a threat. But first amendment law has been slow to recognize where speech is an explicit or implicit threat of violence and is made precisely to convey that threat in a general sense rather than a specific sense. There are far too many cases where it is appropriate to call for the breaking of the law and it is only appropriate to punish actually breaking the law. That's not a path we want to go down. But there is no similar problem with weighing the speech being made for threatening content: if you want to march calling for white racial superiority, you can't have guns, torches, implements of violence, or what-have-you. I think that's a much better distinction to draw - both in that it's punishing the right thing, and that it has much less potential to be abused.
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boner confessor posted:yeah. the american civil war redefined how americans conceptualized america. before the war people were more likely to think of themselves as residents of a city, state, or region and not "i am an american". and remember lee spent more time serving in the united states army than the confederate army. for a lot of these guys it was just a particularly ugly four years, they didn't have decades of lost cause excuses glorifying the confederacy. they were there, they fought, they lost, they moved on The usual line I hear about this is that before the civil war, someone would say "the United States are..."; whereas afterwards they would say "the United States is..."
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Kaal posted:It's always good to remember that Trump always lies. The man is literally incapable of telling the truth. i dunno he was pretty truthful about his racial opinions yesterday
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Wark Say posted:So Easy D's earlier twitter freakout about disbanding them was just because a bunch of rich dudes (most, if not all of which are way richer than our big-handed fellow) basically turned their back on him. Well yeah. He sells himself as a brilliant businessperson and they just turned their backs on him.
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Mr Interweb posted:So Robert E. Lee had less of an attachment to the Confederacy than modern day Republicans do? Their white identity politics completely count on a Confederacy Mattering. They've been screaming the South will rise for centuries at this point and the more statues and monuments fall, the less they have to hold onto - you know, other than their racism, their belief that slavery wasn't that bad, their confederate memorabilia printed by the thousands, their clan sheets from grandpa. Also likely their weird family cargo cult items like my great grand aunt's belief that we were related to Stonewall Jackson and the proof was in a lock of hair she kept in a necklace.
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QuoProQuid posted:their most significant achievements were giving the president a nice press conference and creating some letterhead. unlike the opioid commission, they've done close to nothing.
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The Glumslinger posted:Better than the previous one who was way too loving communicative Mooch talking about Bannons party trick has been by far the best thing to come out of this administration. Condiv posted:the producers (original version) is a good move Stage musical was superior to the original. Movie of the musical wasn't adapted very well. Owlofcreamcheese posted:Nostalgia Chick (I know) did a really good video about how literally every single "anti-nazi" movie gets co-opted by nazis because it makes them look cool and everyone loves darth vaders and how literally the only big movie that doesn't is the producers because it's all nazi jokes but not one single bit makes nazis look good or emulatable. Even Inglorious Basterds? Kaal posted:It's pretty obvious that you're not really paying attention to the criticism being levied about it in this thread, much less the wider world. Be honest and admit that since you, like everyone else, don't have any details about the show, then you can't really levy a broad indictment about how it is a "whitewash" in ways that Handmaid's Tale is not. This is just dumb. You do get that showing a modern day confederacy that isn't just a pile of flaming rubble and weeds is whitewashing by default? The confederacy was a failed state that had no means to win, or to survive as a nation if it did. Any show that presents a modern confederacy as a government not propped up by the US is giving them too much credit already. theflyingorc posted:The answer to "how do we beat Trump in 2020" is to not "run" anyone. Let it be an actual primary, don't put your finger on the scale at all, and the winner shouldn't come out tainted. How about instead you stop pushing this whiny "thumb on the scales" b.s. the Russians and the nazis fed you, and you don't throw a tantrum if you don't get the outcome you want? Condiv posted:slate published an article with interviews from charlottesville residents about antifa! I still maintain Cornell West should be punched for being a disingenuous poo poo who advocated for Jill Stein. Aaaand we have reached the perfection of loss.jpg
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Christ if you haven't felt a collapsible baton before they're scary as hell. They fit anywhere and they are loving solid. They're definitely a deadly weapon. Someone told me once to just whack someone in the collarbone with it and they'll be down for the count for a few months. Which is why they are illegal in most states except for cops to use.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Christ if you haven't felt a collapsible baton before they're scary as hell. They fit anywhere and they are loving solid. They're definitely a deadly weapon. Someone told me once to just whack someone in the collarbone with it and they'll be down for the count for a few months. Yeah, they're pretty vicious. A couple feet of metal with a ball tip does a really drat good job of transferring force, and fits in your pocket.
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Wark Say posted:Ah, so it was all about the grandstanding, then. not even grandstanding, just "We, the CEOs of America, pledge to work with President Trump to Do Jobs Or Whatever" and trump loving blew that up like a giant rear end in a top hat Data Graham posted:The usual line I hear about this is that before the civil war, someone would say "the United States are..."; whereas afterwards they would say "the United States is..." yeah. and this is just a point of historical trivia really except for the fact that it underlines how loving dumb people nowadays are when they're more attached to the confederacy than people who actually suffered through the war and lost limbs in it
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Subvisual Haze posted:Although a bad human being, I'm a little skeptical that CC and his occupation force personally murdered 3 million people. Lines up with the population decline in the Congo Free State under Leopold II. The numbers might be exaggerated but it isn't at all outside the realm of historical parallels.
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Wark Say posted:Ah, so it was all about the grandstanding, then. and getting pictures of trump surrounded by competent people
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