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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:so jack daniels is not the appropriate liquor to bring to nazi counter-protests? Stolichnaya.
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Shifty Pony posted:I distinctly remember an interview with a photographer who tended to do work in rather sketchy areas and in tense situations talking about how he carried a very sturdy telescoping monopod to skirt anti-baton laws. You might not get arrested for carrying it but you would definitely get it for smacking someone with it. Anything is a bludgeon one you break someone's kneecaps with it.
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Calibanibal posted:why did u give it too a fat old bald man Donald Trump is nowhere to be seen
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Is flying the Union Army Flag on my house too extreme after this week? I think it is warranted.
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Kale posted:Practically like open rebellion. The fact that it's deep Republican territory too says a lot. Phoenix (and neighboring Tempe, where I live) have been comparatively liberal for quite some time. We both attempted to be sanctuary cities (until our state legislatures passed a law preventing it), and both have liberal mayors. Greg Stanton has been in open rebellion against trump for quite some time. On the other hand, Mesa right next door is statistically the most conservative city in the country with >250k citizens, full stop. The Phoenix protest /counter-rallies tend to draw big numbers, and the one set up this morning for Tuesday's Trump rally is already at 1.4k going, 3.2k interested.
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I somehow doubt this. Facism lives off the narrative of "we are tough men." Crying on camera just makes you look weak and destroys that image. MSNBC is mocking them on television calling them cowardly and weak. If they're plan is to do open violence next, especially considering how the police are now expecting it, it'd likely just look worse when they get stamped down and made to flee.
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"I feel like when I carry a gun, people are very unlikely to hit me." Never change, Chris.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:You might not get arrested for carrying it but you would definitely get it for smacking someone with it. Breaking someone's kneecap will never be considered attempted murder. Assault with a deadly weapon? Yes. Attempted murder? Nope. Batons get you tased and/or sprayed by law enforcement, and they're readily droppable when you're ordered to, leaving you out $40-50 max. A gun is going to cost you $300 minimum for something that isn't a piece of poo poo like a Hi-Point, and because of that, you're going to be far less inclined to drop/lose/leave it if the situation calls for it, making it a further liability to you in a dangerous situation. Knives and guns get you shot, and if the setting is chaotic enough, it's as likely to earn you a bullet from an armed and panicked ally as a cop or Nazi. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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Young Freud posted:You know that the Aryan Brotherhood is basically the Mexican Mafia's bitches, right? They apparently lack the manpower to defend themselves from the African-American prison gangs, so they're under the MM for protection. Wow Gangland did NOT talk about that.
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Covok posted:I somehow doubt this. Facism lives off the narrative of "we are tough men." Crying on camera just makes you look weak and destroys that image. MSNBC is mocking them on television calling them cowardly and weak. If they're plan is to do open violence next, especially considering how the police are now expecting it, it'd likely just look worse when they get stamped down and made to flee. Yeah, these are the Neo facists that we are talking about, dudes who want to pretend that they can make up for suburban lives with lots of guns. Crying on camera about Chelsea Manning is for betas, queers, and cucks.
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Psycho crying Nazi Dude was a Free Keene guy? The gently caress?
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Best test for this is to see if that really was his phone number that he gave out. I agree that he seemed manic or something in that and the vice interview. I don't know that he's for real understand that he had participated in crime either: I can believe the contradiction in his words and actions would genuinely escape his notice rather than be part of some genius media manipulation. He is an idiot with no self-awareness in the vice thing too, just bold instead of cowardly.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Breaking someone's kneecap will never be considered attempted murder. Assault with a deadly weapon? Yes. Attempted murder? Nope. Hey I'm not staying that a baton is a bad idea, not at all. Just that people should be aware if they are carrying something that could be construed as illegal. If they know that and still want to get one then more power to them.
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STAC Goat posted:Psycho crying Nazi Dude was a Free Keene guy? The gently caress? You missed that article about libertarian becoming supremacists?
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The narrative bullshit assumes that he'll get his triumphant 3rd act. Guess what isn't going to happen.
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AnoHito posted:Brb, removing 16 states from the union. That flag owns waaay too much to not be used. Might I suggest the 51 star flag used by Puerto Rican statehood supporters. 
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Hey I'm not staying that a baton is a bad idea, not at all. Just that people should be aware if they are carrying something that could be construed as illegal. If they know that and still want to get one then more power to them. I know - and I'm willfully acknowledging that I'm giving out 'good bad advice,' too. My goal is to keep goons from buying guns for comfort's and fear's sake. loving *nothing* good will come of that.
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STAC Goat posted:Psycho crying Nazi Dude was a Free Keene guy? The gently caress? Scratch a libertarian find a fascist
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Charlz Guybon posted:Might I suggest the 51 star flag used by Puerto Rican statehood supporters. That looks boss as hell
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Dmitri-9 posted:Scratch a libertarian find a fascist Its not really the journey of "sad, pathetic loser with vague anti-government ideas and a willingness to be a dickhead gets hooked on neo nazi rhetoric" thing that shocked me. That seems like a cliche if anything. Its more "how the gently caress did this guy manage to become the star of a viral Colbert skit and a Vice documentary on almost entirely different subjects years apart with out someone planning it?" 2017 is so weird.
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For those of you considering and buying and using collapsible batons for self defense, keep in mind that any damage to the baton from striking something hard is likely to deform it, making it very hard to collapse and deploy said baton rapidly. I kept one on my boat for killing sharks caught while fishing and while it was undoubtedly more effective than a mag light (more range and using the mag light for this just broke the light) and pool cue handle (snapped after the second use) we kept on board for the same purpose, after each trip I would have to spend some time straightening it out so it would collapse and deploy easily. It now lives beside the driver's seat in my car for the handy window breaker on the bottom of the handle because deploying it means fighting for 20 minutes to collapse it again. Honestly, if I was looking for something to carry while demonstrating against nazis, I'd take the mag light. A classic metal body 4/5/6 D cell mag light is heavy enough to cause damage if used as a club and a flashlight is always a good thing to have when marching around at night! Its also legal to carry around and unlikely to be mistaken as a gun, particularly if you get it in a fab color. Just imagine how much more annoyed that nazi will be when you smack him with a pink mag light!. Elmnt80 fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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Cop Porn Popper posted:For those of you considering and buying and using collapsible batons for self defense, keep in mind that any damage to the baton from striking something hard is likely to deform it, making it very hard to collapse and deploy said baton rapidly. I kept one on my boat for killing sharks caught while fishing and while it was undoubtedly more effective than a mag light (more range and using the mag light for this just broke the light) and pool cue handle (snapped after the second use) we kept on board for the same purpose, after each trip I would have to spend some time straightening it out so it would collapse and deploy easily. It now lives beside the driver's seat in my car for the handy window breaker on the bottom of the handle because deploying it means fighting for 20 minutes to collapse it again. This is perfectly valid advice as well - just don't get into the habit of bashing a D-cell MagLite against a tire. The casing is tough as gently caress, but the innards are delicate.
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Mahoning posted:My favorite thing I discovered today is that Michael Buffer, yes THAT Michael Buffer, is a loud and passionate liberal. LLLLLLAAADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNN! LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET READY TO BASH THE FASH!
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Cop Porn Popper posted:For those of you considering and buying and using collapsible batons for self defense, keep in mind that any damage to the baton from striking something hard is likely to deform it, making it very hard to collapse and deploy said baton rapidly. I kept one on my boat for killing sharks caught while fishing and while it was undoubtedly more effective than a mag light (more range and using the mag light for this just broke the light) and pool cue handle (snapped after the second use) we kept on board for the same purpose, after each trip I would have to spend some time straightening it out so it would collapse and deploy easily. It now lives beside the driver's seat in my car for the handy window breaker on the bottom of the handle because deploying it means fighting for 20 minutes to collapse it again. You can also get some tacti-cool accessories for your maglit.
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Spiritus Nox posted:This is loving stupid Yeah, I'm not sure I follow the logic. Even if everyone propagated this crying video, they're all on rehosted youtubes, with no links back to whatever whatever channel it came from. Even if there was a hypothetical 'third act', most people wouldn't see it, and if they did, they wouldn't propagate it. Other White Supremicists might, but they're going to be put off by the behavior in this video. Also, in the Vice video, he's directly stating that he would not mind resorting to violence, and then brags about the number of guns he carries on his person (four), so a video of him saying 'We never resorted to violence' is not going to hold much water.
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It's almost like Twitter is full of idiots. "I'm trained to interrogate white collar crime" lmao
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STAC Goat posted:Its not really the journey of "sad, pathetic loser with vague anti-government ideas and a willingness to be a dickhead gets hooked on neo nazi rhetoric" thing that shocked me. That seems like a cliche if anything. Its more "how the gently caress did this guy manage to become the star of a viral Colbert skit and a Vice documentary on almost entirely different subjects years apart with out someone planning it?" These people are coddled by society to a ridiculous degree. If there are no consequences and you have a love of the limelight there is no end to the amount of man bites dog stories you can be a part of.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Hot take: sharing a video that makes a nazi look insane and pathetic is actually good TOO HOT! WampaLord posted:It's almost like Twitter is full of Redditors
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Spiritus Nox posted:This is loving stupid Yeah it's real dumb. I don't see any rationale where posting that is helpful to that guy at all. It made me wonder whether the person who posted that was trying to help out the Nazis somehow by slowing the spread of the crying video, but looking at her Twitter it seems sincere enough I guess, just silly.
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That Nazi with documented substance abuse problems (he's at least a very disturbed alcoholic according to himself and people who know him) MAY also be trying to get people to call him to find a new bunch of people to harass. Personally to me he sounds like long time alcoholics I've spoken with. I'd be surprised if he remembers filming this.
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Eh.....no thanks. I'll continue share it every chance I get, thank you very much. Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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STAC Goat posted:Its not really the journey of "sad, pathetic loser with vague anti-government ideas and a willingness to be a dickhead gets hooked on neo nazi rhetoric" thing that shocked me. That seems like a cliche if anything. Its more "how the gently caress did this guy manage to become the star of a viral Colbert skit and a Vice documentary on almost entirely different subjects years apart with out someone planning it?" he's an attention seeking clown who thinks he's fighting the good fight but he crumples under pressure thats why Zwabu posted:Yeah it's real dumb. I don't see any rationale where posting that is helpful to that guy at all. It made me wonder whether the person who posted that was trying to help out the Nazis somehow by slowing the spread of the crying video, but looking at her Twitter it seems sincere enough I guess, just silly. there's a lot of people right now who are paralyzed with indecision because they think anything they do is playing into some nazi scheme somehow crying dude has an emotional problem, he's not a secret genius who is going to trap innocents with his lies
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BIG HEADLINE posted:This is perfectly valid advice as well - just don't get into the habit of bashing a D-cell MagLite against a tire. The casing is tough as gently caress, but the innards are delicate. Yeah, just practice with a big stick of roughly the same size and weight as the mag light. The light might survive a night of bashing the fash, but it won't last long being used to practice. I ruined my favorite 4 d cell mag being by dumb with it and hitting stuff. Also, do not store the light with batteries in it unless you will be using it soon. I've lost more than one maglite to leaking batteries. 
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EwokEntourage posted:Where'd you see this? The SPLC calls them the "largest and deadliest prison gang in the United States" I think I recall seeing this is a FBI gang threat assessment, but I can't remember which one. This Florida Department of Corrections paper on prison gangs mentions the active relationship between La Eme and the AB. I remember reading some other sources that both gangs are pretty homophobic, prohibiting homosexual conduct between them or other inmates, as well as AB doing outside work for La Eme, such as drug dealing and murder.
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