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violent sex idiot posted:love the signing bonus fuckery to dodge both potential lockouts Don't they need to have signing bonuses for the length of the contract to really dodge the impact? His salary in the last two years is almost certainly going to be less than what it is on paper today if it's not a bonus payment. e: that could actually explain why Edmonton is willing to sign him for that much. If he's legit, he'll be a steal in those last couple years.
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Jordan7hm posted:Don't they need to have signing bonuses for the length of the contract to really dodge the impact? His salary in the last two years is almost certainly going to be less than what it is on paper today if it's not a bonus payment. Existing contracts didn't get reduced in the last lockout.
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violent sex idiot posted:love the signing bonus fuckery to dodge both potential lockouts You don't need the word 'potential' in there. Vegas' first major league sports team was and will always be the Las Vegas Posse. Once everyone's done googling that, come at me. 
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Jordan7hm posted:Don't they need to have signing bonuses for the length of the contract to really dodge the impact? His salary in the last two years is almost certainly going to be less than what it is on paper today if it's not a bonus payment. Players get paid signing bonuses during a lockout/strike, but not the salary. So Leon gets his money regardless of there being a lockout or not.
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GuavaMoment posted:You don't need the word 'potential' in there. theres probably not going to be two lockouts back to back,
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violent sex idiot posted:theres probably going to be two lockouts back to back,
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Every CBA negotiation for 25 years has resulted in either a strike or a lockout, because the NHL knows what it's doing.
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violent sex idiot posted:love the signing bonus fuckery to dodge both potential lockouts The NHL/NHLPA both have the opportunity to opt out in September 2019, shortly before the beginning of the 2019/20 season. Surely it would've made more sense to receive a signing bonus on July 1, 2019 to ensure he received most of his salary that year (as it's the most likely to be locked out) and not 2020/21...
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The opt out has to be taken in 2019 but it's for the 20/21 season.
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mcdavid/drai better than sid/malkin, come at me
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bewbies posted:mcdavid/drai better than sid/malkin, come at me Not true now and definitely won't be true in the future. Mcdavid might hit Sid's heights or better but Drai isn't even close to the caliber of Malkin nor will ever be. A better comparison is Ovechkin/Backstrom but Drai isn't as good as Backstrom's peak yet either. Nicky B is kinda underrated and has been really fuckin' good for a long time.
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bewbies posted:mcdavid/drai better than sid/malkin, come at me lmao
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Plus Malkin is friend to animals. Has Draisatl shown any preternatural affinity with wildlife?
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Speaking of Malkin, did this get posted and I missed it? https://twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/897655701010604032 I can't tell if this is self-deprecating or a burn on Ovie.
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Columbus apparently still has a standing offer in place for Matt Duchene: https://theathletic.com/85114/2017/...update-for-you/ Semi-related, The Columbus Dispatch apparently only has one hockey writer left on its staff because The Athletic poached both Portzline and Tom Reed. poo poo.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:The opt out has to be taken in 2019 but it's for the 20/21 season. Ah thanks, I didn't realize it was a twelve month countdown thing.
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bewbies posted:mcdavid/drai better than sid/malkin, come at me At this moment it's probably a toss up with a slight edge to Crosby/Malkin but to the same point in their careers Crosby and Malkin were lightyears ahead of where McDavid and Draisaitl are now.
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If your sport doesn't have a lockout it's because your union sucks. Owners aren't afraid of poo poo and see no reason to offer compromise to avoid a stoppage. Even the MLBPA, what people generally considered a strong union, has been getting embarrassed by Tony Clark, who has no clue what he is doing, just so they can say "look! Labor peace!"
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The NHLPA has caved and been forced into signing hugely damaging labour agreements in three consecutive work stoppages.
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glynnenstein posted:Speaking of Malkin, did this get posted and I missed it? You can never tell with Malamud, he has a huge hate boner for both Ovechkin and the Capitals, and has no problem taking quotes out of context to make things sound more negative towards them or to get attention for himself.
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Gunjin posted:You can never tell with Malamud, he has a huge hate boner for both Ovechkin and the Capitals, and has no problem taking quotes out of context to make things sound more negative towards them or to get attention for himself. I had to stop following him a while ago because of that. I've lost touch with a friend of mine who did some Russian translation services for the Capitals back around 2003-2008 who would be able to give me some better insight into this sort of thing.
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glynnenstein posted:Speaking of Malkin, did this get posted and I missed it? Why not both?
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https://twitter.com/bookofloob/status/898196469391310848 https://twitter.com/jtbourne/status/898196622441684992 e: vvv  God drat it
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Helps if you include the subtweet  https://twitter.com/bookofloob/status/898196469391310848
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ThinkTank posted:The NHLPA has caved and been forced into signing hugely damaging labour agreements in three consecutive work stoppages. While no lockout means a bad union, yes lockout doesn't not necessarily mean a good one.
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Malamud gets obnoxious with his (frankly) over-the-top hatred of Ovechkin but I do generally appreciate his perspective.
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Man all the news this weekend sure has me fired up to have a vocal trump supporter on my favorite team 
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Your fault for noticing the world view of a professional athlete.
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flakeloaf posted:Your fault for noticing the world view of a professional athlete. yah I know I usually don't look at the twitter accounts
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Levitate posted:Man all the news this weekend sure has me fired up to have a vocal trump supporter on my favorite team is he telling trump to drip the gloves?
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Pretty much all pro athletes have lovely politics unless they explicitly say otherwise, don't worry about it
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That's only true in American born dominated sports.
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Aphrodite posted:That's only true in American born dominated sports. Yeah, soccer players and tennis players are fantastic people....... wait, no.
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travis zajac being out for half the season sets the devils up nicely for the 2018 draft
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Aphrodite posted:That's only true in American born dominated sports. Can't tell if sarcastic or objectively wrong. corn on the cop posted:travis zajac being out for half the season sets the devils up nicely for the 2018 draft woof, glad I decided against picking him on my Awesome Fantasy Hockey Team *waits for news of Stamkos' leg being amputated*
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Planning ahead ... on Oct 21 there is going to be an analytics conference at the Rochester Institute of Technology. It's going to have a lot of the same people who were at the one in Ottawa a few months ago. I really enjoyed that, so I'm planning to drive down for this one and will catch some college hockey at the same time. If anyone's in the area, there's more info on the signup page: https://www.rit.edu/science/moneypuck
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