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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Okay but the one where he bought a box on eBay and then a cheap fake ring and told her that it was whatever brand was p lovely Yeah no that was pretty lovely, I mean the guy who was being honest about it with his girlfriend. The cartier box was a dick move.
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canyoneer posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817963 Yeah it does, flashbacks to my childhood.
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Nail Rat posted:Yeah no that was pretty lovely, I mean the guy who was being honest about it with his girlfriend. The best part of that was the lady being like I DUNNO HOW TO HANDLE THID and like I think spending a ton of money on a ring is dumb but gently caress that guy nobody deserves that guy get out of there lady
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Aug 17, 2017 16:28
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Subjunctive posted:You can a non-blood diamond if you'd rather. My wife was fine with moissanite, the secret is having joint bank account before you buy it.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:My wife was fine with moissanite, the secret is having joint bank account before you buy it. My ex-wife said she didn't want a ring, so I didn't get one for her. I suspect my current girlfriend would want one, but also be embarrassed if I dropped ten grand on it, so I suspect it would be a small Canadian diamond.
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Aug 17, 2017 16:39
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If Groupon existed back then, my dad surely would've gotten the engagement ring from it.
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Subjunctive posted:My ex-wife said she didn't want a ring, so I didn't get one for her. I suspect my current girlfriend would want one, but also be embarrassed if I dropped ten grand on it, so I suspect it would be a small Canadian diamond. Yeah, I found out about moissanite and let her choose. She went with that because she could spend more on the titanium band which she really had to have. My dad proposed to my mom with a twist tie and they're still together so 
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Aug 17, 2017 16:48
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I collect weird rocks so I've bought crummy industrial-grade diamonds on ebay for like $20 that are huge as heck just to add to my collection, get one of those and your wife can brag to her friends that she's got the biggest diamond of all of them 
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Aug 17, 2017 16:58
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I thought it was for signaling. You had to prove to her (or her father) that you could provide. Like how pre-FDIC bank buildings had gorgeous constuction.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:02
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Nm me. I don't even see the post I was responding to on this page anymore.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:05
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Folly posted:I thought it was for signaling. You had to prove to her (or her father) that you could provide. Like how pre-FDIC bank buildings had gorgeous constuction. I mean I'm sure it traditionally was for that but nowadays it's whatever
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ate all the Oreos posted:I mean I'm sure it traditionally was for that but nowadays it's whatever Yeah that's where I was going.
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Folly posted:I thought it was for signaling. You had to prove to her (or her father) that you could provide. Like how pre-FDIC bank buildings had gorgeous constuction. Yeah, the father could get it appraised and reverse engineer your salary from the 3 month rule. (Was that net or gross? Maybe it predates income tax.)
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Aug 17, 2017 17:17
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ate all the Oreos posted:I mean I'm sure it traditionally was for that but nowadays it's whatever is 1938 old enough to be considered 'traditional'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5kWu1ifBGU
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Aug 17, 2017 17:36
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ate all the Oreos posted:I collect weird rocks so I've bought crummy industrial-grade diamonds on ebay for like $20 that are huge as heck just to add to my collection, get one of those and your wife can brag to her friends that she's got the biggest diamond of all of them
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spog posted:is 1938 old enough to be considered 'traditional'?
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Subjunctive posted:My ex-wife said she didn't want a ring, so I didn't get one for her. I suspect my current girlfriend would want one, but also be embarrassed if I dropped ten grand on it, so I suspect it would be a small Canadian diamond. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvatzr7pA70 Don't buy it from Brilliant Earth
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canyoneer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvatzr7pA70 Yeah, that sucks. There are other places that provide certificates of origin, though.
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These cheapskates need to just suck it up and get their women diamond rings, or gemstone rings if that's their preference. These rings are there for (hopefully) several decades. Trust me when I say that the cost of the ring is insignificant compared to the costs you'll incur during marriage, raising children, etc.
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Aug 17, 2017 18:29
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And after several decades, that expensive ring still hasn't provided a single bit of value to your life. But yeah, they should absolutely spend a quarter of their annual income or whatever on it anyway or people might think they're a cheapskate.
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https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6u1pie/landlord_forcing_military_members_to_pay_500_to/ Landlord forcing military members to pay $500 to use their SCRA termination rights. Is this legal? (self.legaladvice) submitted 1 day ago by BrainwashedByBigBlue quote:I am an Active Duty member of the Air Force who recently PCS'd to Nebraska. Upon arrival I have been given 10 days to find a house before reporting to my gaining unit. For background, the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act covers, among other things, law allowing personnel under military orders to terminate leases early without penalty. The intention is to minimize financial hardship from military orders. The relevant part of the law states that with signed military orders, the servicemember can terminate their lease without penalty effective 30 days from when the next rent payment is due. That landlord is probably going to learn an expensive lesson.
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totalnewbie posted:And after several decades, that expensive ring still hasn't provided a single bit of value to your life. But yeah, they should absolutely spend a quarter of their annual income or whatever on it anyway or people might think they're a cheapskate. It's nice to give gifts. Also, don't buy art or jewelry.
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LLCoolJD posted:These cheapskates need to just suck it up and get their women diamond rings, or gemstone rings if that's their preference. These rings are there for (hopefully) several decades. Trust me when I say that the cost of the ring is insignificant compared to the costs you'll incur during marriage, raising children, etc. Yeah, I could have bought 3 rings for what my wife's family has cost me. Someday when I want a good cry I'll add up what daycare cost over a span of 10 years.
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What I don't understand is why the lab grown diamond industry hasn't taken over. Even centerpiece gemstone quality rocks are fairly easy to make by now and you could undercut debeers and still keep a disgusting margin. There's all of like one or two places online selling them and they're the exact same price it's bonkers.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:09
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Save money by buying your wife at the second wifeauction of the month, thus ensuring you have leverage with the owner - be prepared to walk away, and you can grab yourself a bargain!
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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Subjunctive posted:It's nice to give gifts. Someone spending 3 month's salary on a painting or jewelry would fit perfectly in this thread. If you want to spend that much on an engagement ring then fine, do it, but being labeled a cheapskate by not spending that much on a piece of jewelry is kind of ridiculous, especially in THIS thread.
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Subjunctive posted:Yeah, that sucks. There are other places that provide certificates of origin, though. There's no guarantee that those aren't bullshit either though
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:What I don't understand is why the lab grown diamond industry hasn't taken over. Even centerpiece gemstone quality rocks are fairly easy to make by now and you could undercut debeers and still keep a disgusting margin. There's all of like one or two places online selling them and they're the exact same price it's bonkers. Nice laboratory here. Shame if something were to happen to it. This is my business associate, Large Tony.
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Folly posted:I thought it was for signaling. You had to prove to her (or her father) that you could provide. Like how pre-FDIC bank buildings had gorgeous constuction. The common scam was that a guy would come to town, find some woman, and woo her. Premarital sex was a big no-no back then, so he would get married to be able to have sex with her. Later, when he had his fun, he would skip town, leaving his wife behind. At this point in time it was almost impossible to get a divorce, not being "pure" was a big deal when dating, and it was very difficult for women to find legitimate work to support themselves, and on top of that she might be pregnant too, so the guy really hosed his erstwhile bride over just so that he could get his rocks off and then leave to start the whole thing over again (often changing names and never mentioning the string of women in his wake). Combine that with the potential for dowry, and you can see how this would be problematic. So, the ring (traditionally any form of jewelry, or even more mundane wealth would do as long as it had value) was a way to show that you were serious enough about the whole thing that you were willing to put your money where your mouth was. The jewelry was a portable, socially acceptable way for a woman to carry wealth, and if the marriage didn't last it would do a little to provide for her until she could get back on her feet. Later on, after heavy marketing from the diamond industry, we ended up with Diamonds bring the gemstone of choice, along with other social norms that solidified such as the ring. Edit: Nevermind, seems this was probably apocryphal. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Aug 18, 2017 |
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totalnewbie posted:And after several decades, that expensive ring still hasn't provided a single bit of value to your life. But yeah, they should absolutely spend a quarter of their annual income or whatever on it anyway or people might think they're a cheapskate. 1/4 annual income would be bad with money, but you can easily get nice diamond rings for under $4,000. For most of us, that isn't 1/4 annual income.
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Volmarias posted:There's no guarantee that those aren't bullshit either though I haven't read reports of certificates with registration numbers that traced back and weren't legitimate. Do you have more information? E: I've heard that CanadaMark provides auditable guarantees, for example. https://www.canadamark.com/ EE: totalnewbie posted:Someone spending 3 month's salary on a painting or jewelry would fit perfectly in this thread. You get into the whole "can afford it" thing again, which we've trodden well. The idea that art or jewelry doesn't provide "one bit of value" is what I was objecting to. Enjoyment is a form of value, as is sentimentality. You can argue about the price of that value, or if it could be had more inexpensively, but to deny that it can exist seems pretty ridiculous. Subjunctive fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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LLCoolJD posted:1/4 annual income would be bad with money, but you can easily get nice diamond rings for under $4,000. For most of us, that isn't 1/4 annual income. $4,000 is still stupid to spend on something that is only valuable because a monopoly tells you that it is. might as well buy $4,000 worth of Magic The Gathering cards. At least you and your bride can play a game together - you can't even do that with a ring
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Rich people trying to justify their rings. Poor people saying how it's all bullshit. The occasional humblebrag going "Hey I'm rich AND I think it's bullshit." Yup, it's engagement ring derail again.
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spog posted:$4,000 is still stupid to spend on something that is only valuable because a monopoly tells you that it is. Hell you can just boost four grand in magic cards at a legacy tournament, no problem. Then you unload them at the same tournament, assuming it's a large event with multiple vendors, and spend that money on a ring Someone thinks I'm joking and I assure you that pro thieves have been staking out legacy magic tournaments for a couple years now because you can pick up something the size of a small phone, walk across the room, and unload it with no way to get caught short of someone seeing you pick it up to start with, and probably get a couple grand
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Some self-help guru called Loy Machado had a super weird response to the softball Quora question of, "What made you smile today?" https://www.quora.com/What-made-you-smile-today/answer/Loy-Machedo?share=a1bbfa8c&srid=pBib His "super simple wifey" whom he "accidentally found" on a Thai marriage website lived her entire life on a farm, is half his age, and super naive (meanwhile, he's some sort of self-help scammer). She won a "Very Rare Original Chanel French Designer Ladies Bag" and asked him for $3 for shipping it from "France". He tried to tell her that it was fake, but she got sad and so he gave her the $3. When it arrived she showed him the "Chanel" tag that means it's real. If you like, you can hire him as a self help trainer. Here's his quora profile: https://www.quora.com/profile/Loy-Machedo He's SUPER FAMOUS:  You can pay him $19 for "email solutions" to your problems - total of 1,000 words. Or pay $25k for the "Legacy Package" for personal branding: quote:You will learn everything and anything there is to learn about being an Personal Brand. From how to make easy money both online and offline, make yourself stand out from the rest of the competition and build a system to earn money by Branding You, Your Name, Your Product & Your Services. Or just make a donation of $50 for "someone who cannot afford my services".
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There are better choices out there than diamonds for wedding rings, lots of more rare stones that actually have value beyond the inflated prices for diamonds. Just make 100% sure that the person you are buying it for is completely on board with explaining what it is to every person who asks about it for the next decade. Like, really on board an into it, not "I guess so". Borat voice my wife has an alexandrite ring, more valuable than a similarly sized diamond and more interesting imo.
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Volmarias posted:It was a security deposit on your wife's virtue (ahem). this sounds pretty apocryphal tbh
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Subjunctive posted:The "had to ask for $3" made me pretty uncomfortable. Yeah that's incredibly gross.
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