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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Given that we've had shield walls clashing recently, I don't know if this is a good idea.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/17/texas-about-to-legalize-open-carry-big-knives-and-swords.html

quote:

Texas about to legalize open-carry of big knives and swords

By Ray Bogan Published August 17, 2017

The katana once was the weapon of the samurai. But a new law soon will make it perfectly legal for Texans to publicly carry the warrior blade – along with a range of swords and other long knives.


In a twist on typical open-carry laws that deal with guns, Texas starting Sept. 1 will end its ban on the open-carry of any blade longer than five-and-a-half inches.

“Some other states are looking at us as a return to the old Wild West,” said Dianna Knipp, owner of Charlie’s Knife Shop in El Paso.

The new law, while drawing some attention in the press, has stayed relatively under the radar. Some Texas residents Fox News spoke with didn’t know about the change.

“I think it will be similar to the open-carry law in Texas [for firearms] in that it will be a big stir for a while and then it will die down,” Knipp said.

State Rep. John Frullo, who sponsored the bill, believes the length of the blade doesn’t necessarily make society any more dangerous.


Julian Saenz, an employee at Charlie’s, agrees. “You can make a lot of damage with a small knife if you know how to use it. You don’t need a big knife to make damage. So if somebody needs something for cutting something big, this is good.”

House Bill 1935, which eliminated knives from the list of items that are a crime to carry in Texas, was passed in June with bipartisan support.

Texas penal code made it a crime to carry an illegal knife, which was any blade bigger than five-and-a-half inches. But analysis from the House Research Organization found that some people felt properly enforcing the illegal knife rule could be discriminatory, because the statute was vague and could cause confusion over what constituted an illegal knife.

Frullo said the bill sets rules that citizens, law enforcement and courts can better understand.

“I think everything we did is based on a commonsense approach,” said Frullo.

The chairwoman of the El Paso County Democrats told Fox News she doesn’t think the law is necessary.

“I personally as a parent am a little bit disturbed by the fact that we are removing those limitations. I think there are people who for very legitimate reasons, like work, do need to carry around knives and things of that nature. I’m not sure what service or what public need is met by removing those limits,” said Iliana Holguin.

Although the knives will now be legal, they are still banned in certain public places; very similar to carrying a gun. Knives are banned in churches, hospitals, courtrooms, schools and other similar places.

“We got rid of illegal knives and made them location-restricted knives,” said Frullo.

Each state has its own knife-carrying law. Even before the Texas change, other states were more restrictive. According to Knipp, California and Massachusetts are two of the strictest in the country, only allowing a two-inch blade to be carried. Blades are measured from where the blade enters the handle to the tip.

“I think what people need to keep in mind is, this is one of man's oldest tools. Yes, it may need to be a personal defense tool at some point, I hope not for any of my customers, but this is a tool,” said Knipp.

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Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Ronald Reagan sighed as he drew his katana.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

coyo7e posted:

You would love that French documentary on the antifa punk movement.

https://youtu.be/Ac0q-4UT8Vs

I'll have to watch more of it tomorrow but what I've seen I do love, thank you

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.

I can see him owning a den of iniquity called Pleasure Island.

Also pro child donkey slaves.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

mdemone posted:

I'm trying to think of a Disney villain that works, but I'm coming up blank.


(and Putin is Dillinger.)

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Cybernetic Vermin posted:

The strangest thing about this whole statue thing: the accelerationists may have been right all along, and the cost may not even be that high?

Hey that one accelerationist caused plenty of damage :mad:

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Data Graham posted:

Hey that one accelerationist caused plenty of damage :mad:

Still not funny enough. Try again.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

The strangest thing about this whole statue thing: the accelerationists may have been right all along, and the cost may not even be that high?

We assumed Brexit was over after Jo Cox got shot by a nazi. Don't repeat that mistake. 50% of Americans think the nazis at Charlottesville 'had a point' or are 'not sure'.

Fangz fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Aug 18, 2017

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Wait, what was so bad about Tina Fey's car/email joke?

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

Mr Interweb posted:

Wait, what was so bad about Tina Fey's car/email joke?

1) it's not very funny and makes a joke out of two things with vastly differing importance (Hillary's emails vs. Nazi street violence)
2) it exploited recent nazi violence and murder which the president has tacitly endorsed, this has dominated the media for the last few days

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Mr Interweb posted:

Wait, what was so bad about Tina Fey's car/email joke?

Poorly timed and unfunny. There's something cathartic about making a joke about the most horrible poo poo in the world. However it has to be good otherwise it's just offensive instead of being offensive and funny.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Same Great Paste posted:

The gently caress is their obsession with everyone they don't agree with being a pedophile. Christ.

Argas posted:

Projection.

While it is really tempting to assign the other side as being the ones with hosed up sexual deviancy, this is a problem on both sides, that whoever it concerns will turn a blind eye to supporting on their own side while hammering home away on it "for the other side". Just look at the loving Nazi furries out there, same loving deal. These morons are so blinded that they can't reconcile that their loving fetish and political views are actually incompatible and morally repugnant.

And yet the difference is that they will still support the ones that will kill them for their deviance, instead of attempt to treat them.

Everything else is just propaganda to attempt to sway people in their favor. The fact that they fall for it just establishes that they are all morons.

Bogatyr
Jul 20, 2009

Pellisworth posted:

1) it's not very funny and makes a joke out of two things with vastly differing importance (Hillary's emails vs. Nazi street violence)
Subjectivity aside...
:thejoke:

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Pellisworth posted:

1) it's not very funny and makes a joke out of two things with vastly differing importance (Hillary's emails vs. Nazi street violence)
2) it exploited recent nazi violence and murder which the president has tacitly endorsed, this has dominated the media for the last few days
The "joke" is about how the American media and electorate prioritized Hillary's emails over the predictable violence that would occur under a Trump presidency. The fact that they are of such vastly differing importance is the point.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

mdemone posted:

Trump isn't a Scar character. That doesn't ring to me.

I'm trying to think of a Disney villain that works, but I'm coming up blank.

He's Gaston in his head, but he's Iago in reality.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Chilichimp posted:

He's Gaston in his head, but he's Iago in reality.

Nah, he's the English villain from Pocahontas. He has a song about being greedy and another about being racist.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

Bogatyr posted:

Subjectivity aside...
:thejoke:


Inferior Third Season posted:

The "joke" is about how the American media and electorate prioritized Hillary's emails over the predictable violence that would occur under a Trump presidency. The fact that they are of such vastly differing importance is the point.

sure, let's make light of actual, violent, neo-Nazism endorsed by President Trump. it's all fun and games and good for a laugh!

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
I too am outraged at celebrities and the things they do

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Pellisworth posted:

sure, let's make light of actual, violent, neo-Nazism endorsed by President Trump. it's all fun and games and good for a laugh!
It's the opposite of making light of it, actually.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

terrorist ambulance posted:

I too am outraged at celebrities and the things they do

Well, I am now that one is set on destroying the world.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

Inferior Third Season posted:

It's the opposite of making light of it, actually.

please clarify for us unenlightened

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
Tina Fey: still more relevant to politics than Sarah Palin.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED


People also aren't too happy about her "just ignore the Nazis and eat cake" joke. Even if it's clearly meant as a joke, it's not very funny and it's in poor taste.

The email joke is okay because the whole email thing was a joke.

Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Aug 18, 2017

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005
here's a hot take:

perhaps Nazism in the US in 2017 is problematic and you should take a firm stance against it

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Pellisworth posted:

please clarify for us unenlightened
Comedy is sometimes not just about entertainment, but forcing people to confront the harsh realities that they try to ignore.

Hillary's emails were prioritized over the predictable violence that would occur under a Trump presidency by the media and the electorate, and this was a terrible moral failing of the country that should not be repeated. When the predictable violence occurs is exactly the time to say it. Her joke isn't making light of the fact that the violence occurred, it is highlighting the absurdity of what is considered important during election seasons, and that we are reaping what we sowed, but it doesn't have to be this way.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


"Ignore racism and just think happy thoughts while other less privileged people are being attacked and murdered since it doesn't REALLY affect you yet" is a pretty big problem and Fey basically endorsing that view, regardless of it being a joke, it in really poor taste. The only two takes I'm seeing are people pissed she's telling people to look the other way to gross racism or idiots saying "yay you go Tina. Cake!!" so if her message was to mock that point of view it certainly didn't hit well enough.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Blind Rasputin posted:

I love how Trump thought running for president would make him so famous and so much money, when in the end it will do exactly the opposite and his brand will be ruined for good.

Well to be fair, becoming president has made Trump the most famous person in human history, as revolting as that concept may be. And, as we will likely find out through Mueller, it's probably made him fabulously rich also through getting all kinds of shady Russian money.

The monkey's paw part of this is where the fame becomes everlasting infamy, and, hopefully, much or all of the money is taken away.

I wonder how close day to day life at the White House has become to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWq15lDh8yM

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

Radish posted:

"Ignore racism and just think happy thoughts while other less privileged people are being attacked and murdered since it doesn't REALLY affect you yet" is a pretty big problem and Fey basically endorsing that view, regardless of it being a joke, it in really poor taste. The only two takes I'm seeing are people pissed she's telling people to look the other way to gross racism or idiots saying "yay you go Tina. Cake!!" so if her message was to mock that point of view it certainly didn't hit well enough.

Weird, to me her saying to eat cake made me think of the quote commonly misattributed to Marie Antoinette, and that Tina is actually criticizing the people saying to ignore the Nazis.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Zanzibar Ham posted:

Weird, to me her saying to eat cake made me think of the quote commonly misattributed to Marie Antoinette, and that Tina is actually criticizing the people saying to ignore the Nazis.

Yeah like that's the good way of viewing it and I'd love for her to come out and say "look I hate to explain comedy but I'm MOCKING doing nothing" but from comments I'm seeing on social media it certainly isn't being interpreted that way by her fans.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Radish posted:

Yeah like that's the good way of viewing it and I'd love for her to come out and say "look I hate to explain comedy but I'm MOCKING doing nothing" but from comments I'm seeing on social media it certainly isn't being interpreted that way by her fans.

Yeah I mean, when I first saw it my assumption was that the message is "oh yeah, just sit at home and eat cake instead of doing anything, that'll certainly help (rear end in a top hat)," but I also did not see it in motion, only descriptions and screenshots.

Let's be honest though: who actually gives a poo poo?

Bogatyr
Jul 20, 2009
It just amazes me that anyone could spend one millisecond upset about a joke on a comedy show, that wasn't on it's face objectionable. This week especially. You have to contort yourself into Russian Circus shapes to glean something chafing from the joke.

I fully realize I am needlessly pissy at the needlessly pissy but still.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Hot take culture will or already has destroyed America

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Lightning Lord posted:

Hot take culture will or already has destroyed America

It's this. When all of the incentives on platforms including, but not limited to, Twitter reward extreme and harshly stated views over nuanced and complicated ones, and brief and snappy one liners over in-depth discussion, that's all you tend to get.

I've been increasingly on board with the point of view that Twitter bears a large share of the blame for what is happening right now.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
No one is actually upset about that tina fay joke. Nazis are upset by that sheet cake anti nazi thing she did and decided they need to find some lame thing to be fake upset about to "counter it"

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014
Unlockable Ben

Lightning Lord posted:

Hot take culture will or already has destroyed America

Betelgeuse Take: Our universe will one day be a cold black void of hydrogen crystals, empty space and iron spheres.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

I didn't take anything from Tina Fey's segment to even remotely imply she was downplaying the gravity of Charlotteville.


Anyway, check out this historian obliterating some shithead gamergater:

https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/898254826277978113

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014
Unlockable Ben

Mr Interweb posted:

I didn't take anything from Tina Fey's segment to even remotely imply she was downplaying the gravity of Charlotteville.


Anyway, check out this historian obliterating some shithead gamergater:

https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/898254826277978113

This is a good balm for the chapped asscheeks of my hot takes.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Fun fact, Hitler had a party purge some time before they took power to kick out the small handful of Nazis that actually took socialism seriously.

Seph
Jul 12, 2004

Please look at this photo every time you support or defend war crimes. Thank you.

Playstation 4 posted:

Betelgeuse Take: Our universe will one day be a cold black void of hydrogen crystals, empty space and iron spheres.

Even the iron spheres will decay into nothingness, friend.

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cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

The strangest thing about this whole statue thing: the accelerationists may have been right all along, and the cost may not even be that high?
i've had similar thoughts but I think they're entirely pre-mature tbh

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