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Agile Vector posted:and yet android is the biggest phone os 
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Agile Vector posted:and yet android is the biggest phone os
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Aug 17, 2017 02:08
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pagancow posted:That means they spent up to $30 billion dollars last year just unblocking ads.
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Aug 17, 2017 05:22
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Aug 17, 2017 14:53
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Sagebrush posted:i turned off adblock on some poorly coded website a while back and suddenly it reloaded and replaced the white background with a gigantic animated colorful ad for fabric softener. years ago when that guy was fired from gamespot for giving a sponsored game a bad review i went to look at the site to see what the big deal was and wondered what was wrong because i didn't see anything relating to the game. then i turned off adblock and suddenly every bit of the site from the background to the banners to the auto-play popover videos were ads for that lovely game. the web without adblockers is a truly horrible place.
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Aug 17, 2017 16:04
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Aug 17, 2017 16:10
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yeah basically the major game sites are an extortion scheme either the game companies pay them enough money, either in advertising or just straight payola or their games get less than 8.0 (aka the kiss of death) when you get a reviewer that actually tries to evaluate the games objectively, they'll get ridden out on a rail if they don't quid the pro quo
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Aug 17, 2017 17:16
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who gives a poo poo video game reviews are nothing more than advertising. advertising for children.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:56
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Is there a bored rich person who makes video game reviews I can trust for objectivity? Any "professional games journalist" is getting paid peanuts and works for a near-bankrupt company whose only sponsors are the same companies they're covering.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:59
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Stymie posted:yeah basically the major game sites are an extortion scheme Didn't Electronic Gaming Monthly reguarly trash games? RIP print media.
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Aug 17, 2017 21:01
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giant bomb mostly seems to be allowed to do their own thing, but being a small operation, they still mostly just cover the big releases
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Aug 17, 2017 21:10
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i look at metacritic scores and user reviews, lol if you trust journalism in this day and age, especially for games
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Aug 17, 2017 21:13
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because user reviews full of "this is an sjw bullshit game" are way better than games "journalism"
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Aug 17, 2017 21:19
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which is why you read them. most upvoted user reviews aren't garbage political poo poo flinging. it doesn't take very long to gather what's wrong with a game
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Aug 17, 2017 21:23
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I generally trust the opinions of my friends who have similar videogame interests to me or who are familiar with what kind of games I like.
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Aug 17, 2017 23:57
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no see it's all about game journalism and that's why i think all women are whores and all minorities should be deported
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Aug 18, 2017 00:37
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i block all the ads i don't even care
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Aug 18, 2017 01:04
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akadajet posted:i block all the ads i don't even care same. gently caress em.
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Aug 18, 2017 01:05
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i unblock networks that support the sites well and for sites i like 
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Stymie posted:yeah basically the major game sites are an extortion scheme So would you say that, actually, it's about ethics in games journalism? 
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Aug 18, 2017 03:18
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Agile Vector posted:i unblock networks that support the sites well and for sites i like
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pagancow posted:the question is, are you ready for a world where the ad and content are indistinguishable from each other? it amuses me that you believe you do not already live in this world
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Schadenboner posted:So would you say that, actually, it's about ethics in games journalism? at least for the big game sites, there never was any, it's just straight graft and now we have a whole herd of boys who think the solution is by actively and aggressively hating women because it's the only method they see of controlling their clubhouse now that the games industry is so huge it's further not a coincidence that most of them are computer touchers
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it amuses me that you believe you do not already live in this world YouTube pr-roll with "advertisement" on it still exists premium content TV channels still roll ads during commercial breaks even online.
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Aug 18, 2017 14:05
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the dying gasps of an obsolete business model
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pagancow posted:YouTube pr-roll with "advertisement" on it still exists so they're pulling a hulu? noticed amazon prime video does this too now, plugs stuff between shows
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Aug 18, 2017 14:14
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if you don't Adblock on mobile page sizes usually double at minimum, and thus correspondingly shred your battery life and your data plan. the alternative is to turn off JS which makes things lightning fast but breaks like 40% of sites in some critical fashion.
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Jimmy Carter posted:if you don't Adblock on mobile page sizes usually double at minimum, and thus correspondingly shred your battery life and your data plan. gently caress a add
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Aug 18, 2017 20:03
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Suspicious posted:the dying gasps of an obsolete business model
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Agile Vector posted:i unblock networks that support the sites well and for sites i like i at one point did, but then i realized it is fundamentally dishonest since i don't buy the things advertised anyway, so just not seeing the ads gives the ad networks a more true representation of reality internet advertising is such poo poo, the only things ads for things i could imagine buying i ever see are ads for the specific product i have just comparison-shopped and bought
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pagancow et al. complain that ads support the content and such, but they only do that because of this massive long-game con that advertising agencies have pulled to convince other industries of their value. it's just phenomenal money transfers from corporations to the media for little actual benefit. strange.
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Sagebrush posted:pagancow et al. complain that ads support the content and such, but they only do that because of this massive long-game con that advertising agencies have pulled to convince other industries of their value. it's just phenomenal money transfers from corporations to the media for little actual benefit. strange. media production is one of the last bastions of good middle class blue collar union work in this country. whats the problem?
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Stymie posted:yeah basically the major game sites are an extortion scheme I honestly think a lot of gamers want it this way. They want the system to tell them the poo poo they compulsively preorder is actually cool and good. Seriously have you ever tried telling gamers "why don't you just stop preordering poo poo even though you've been burned?" Even people I consider reasonable fall back on "but you get such good deals on bonus content!" It's an addiction to consumerism.
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Sagebrush posted:pagancow et al. complain that ads support the content and such, but they only do that because of this massive long-game con that advertising agencies have pulled to convince other industries of their value. it's just phenomenal money transfers from corporations to the media for little actual benefit. strange. lol websites have little value. got it.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Seriously have you ever tried telling gamers "why don't you just stop preordering poo poo even though you've been burned?" Even people I consider reasonable fall back on "but you get such good deals on bonus content!" i've never had this experience. it sounds like you're associating with the wrong people. pagancow posted:lol websites have little value. got it. websites have lots of value. advertising doesn't -- it's only valuable because the industry says it is. i'm sure that, as an insider, you have a perspective that lets you see both the academic studies showing that advertising conversion rates are utterly abysmal, and the industry publications showing that wow actually advertising is the most best greatest way to spend your money everyone has to do it all the time or else and we're not in denial of anything! Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I honestly think a lot of gamers want it this way. They want the system to tell them the poo poo they compulsively preorder is actually cool and good. nope it's marketing companies doing a good job of selling.
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Aug 20, 2017 17:35
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oh no! a company tempted me to buy something hundreds of people worked hard on how dare they!
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a company tricked them into buying a lovely product by lying about its quality. that's extremely effective advertising, granted, but it only works repeatedly on the terminally stupid (gamers). no one else is going to keep pre-ordering products from the same company that burns them like that over and over again.
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Smythe posted:media production is one of the last bastions of good middle class blue collar union work in this country. whats the problem? government employment actually is probably the largest bastion tbf
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