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Baronjutter posted:Our family friend's mom went from retired filthy rich, like a mansion and millions in investments and retirement funds to now being unable to afford her modest retirement home's fees due to gambling in the span of maybe a decade after her husband died. The gambling industry is a plague. The gambling industry is definitely a plague, and the scary thing is the stock market is almost the same thing, but under the cover of legitimacy. Not that I think people shouldn't be allowed to make their own investments, but for certain personality types I can hardly see the difference between stocks and gambling.
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The stock market allows for much higher stakes but at least it isn't statistically impossible to make money.
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Aug 18, 2017 17:34
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:So like... maybe my dad has a secret family he's paying for, or my mom ran over somebody and killed them and is paying their family lifetime hush money. I still don't know, but massive amounts of cash were basically go up in smoke in my family the whole time I was a kid. And we got to live like paupers because who knows why. My dad hid money from my mom. Not with the same amount of money, but my mom did tell me a few years ago that when I was growing up, he told her that they didn't have enough money to buy school supplies for me one year. (Then he blew a bunch of that money on an ill-considered attempt at building a scale steam locomotive.) Part of me wonders if one of your parents isn't actually making as much money as they say they do. Did they show you pay stubs or did they just tell you how much they make at their jobs? Maybe they've been "going to work at the office" and then just hiding out in a bar somewhere for half the day? well why not posted:Gambling, internet porno / cams / chatrooms, MMOs or bad stock market decisions would be my suspicion. Wait, what? Drew Carey bought a camgirl?
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Aug 18, 2017 17:35
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Wait, what? Drew Carey bought a camgirl? http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/05/drew-carey-sugar-daddy-porn-star-niki-skyler/ quote:“He clicked on Megan’s photo and immediately fell in love,” reveals an insider. Carey, who is worth $165 million, soon began sending Martinez gifts. After a few private video sessions, the funnyman flew to Las Vegas to see his young crush at the Adult Video News Awards.
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Baronjutter posted:Our family friend's mom went from retired filthy rich, like a mansion and millions in investments and retirement funds to now being unable to afford her modest retirement home's fees due to gambling in the span of maybe a decade after her husband died. The gambling industry is a plague. The Louie Theroux documentary on gambling is worth a watch. At around the 30 minute mark, they introduce this old lady whose husband died and the casino was sending people to pretend to be her friend while she put 4 million into their slot machines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJRYUZbxwyA
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Aug 18, 2017 17:40
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This is probably more really dumb and/or poor people. I went a couple weeks ago to trade in several bags of crushed aluminum cans at a scrap yard. There were people there trading in grocery bags with like 2 tall boys and a few 12 oz cans, probably from the night before. This is dumb because the place says they round down to the nearest 25 cents, plus even though the ticket they gave me said I was due $24.50 they only gave me $24 so IDK what was going on. Best bang for your buck is to trade in the most cans you can at once, save up, you can't even buy a 40 with them ripping you off so hard my poor drunk friends!
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Aug 18, 2017 17:47
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:The stock market allows for much higher stakes but at least it isn't statistically impossible to make money. True... And it's probably easier to make money accidentally by just buying a bunch of stocks if the market is in a bull trend.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:The stock market allows for much higher stakes but at least it isn't statistically impossible to make money. Good thing everyone's retirement accounts are tied directly to the stock market! 
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Aug 18, 2017 17:55
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potee posted:The Louie Theroux documentary on gambling is worth a watch. At around the 30 minute mark, they introduce this old lady whose husband died and the casino was sending people to pretend to be her friend while she put 4 million into their slot machines. gently caress, in straight up morally bankrupt but just reading that made me feel gross
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Aug 18, 2017 18:19
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Are Millennials also killing the gambling industry? I'm genuinely curious what kind of demographic shifts will happen when Baby Boomers die out and successive generations don't have the same disposable income and more understanding of gambling odds.
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Aug 18, 2017 18:28
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Backroom poker all the way, man
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Aug 18, 2017 18:29
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-Father-in-law insists on doing a roof repair on his home instead of hiring someone. -The process takes much longer because he decides to do it all himself and he's not a professional roofer. -At one point, falls off roof, shattering his arm rendering him unable to work in his very physically intensive job. Might be unable to return to work due to extensive damage to his shoulder. -My wife points out to him that the lost income from his injury far exceeded the cost of just hiring people to do the repairs. -Six months after being back to work, his nephew tells him he's having the same problem with his own roof, any chance FiL could help? -Father-in-law falls off nephew's roof, fucks up the same goddamn arm, can't work for six months 
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Aug 18, 2017 18:44
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Helping the nephew isn't cheap, just garden variety stupid. So he's got some range.
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Okay I'd probably have had the wherewithal to laugh at myself that second time.
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Aug 18, 2017 18:46
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Ok I admit, I also take tons of poo poo from good hotel breakfasts. (I may have read this on page 13 and replied out of nowhere so my bad. Either way give me that free muffin or yogurt thank you very much)
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Tyson Tomko posted:Ok I admit, I also take tons of poo poo from good hotel breakfasts. Marriott MClub is fantastic and well worth the extra $30 or whatever per room
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Aug 18, 2017 20:57
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green chicken feet posted:Or the more legal version - someone was playing the stock market. This has always been my strongest suspicion. Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Part of me wonders if one of your parents isn't actually making as much money as they say they do. Did they show you pay stubs or did they just tell you how much they make at their jobs? Maybe they've been "going to work at the office" and then just hiding out in a bar somewhere for half the day? My mom never made a ton of money, just working part time most of her life. My dad was a firefighter though, got up to the rank of captain, so he was definitely pulling in the dough. I'd been to the firehall numerous times over his career, so unless it was the ultimate long con involving dozens of individuals, all to pull the wool over a childs eyes, he was working and earning as normal up until retirement. It's just little things, vague memories, of things in the past that make me question what was actually going on. Like, my dad got a second job at one point. It seemed normal at the time, because what does a kid know, but how did he have a second job when he was already employed full-time as a firefighter? I think he may have been on stress leave because of panic attacks, and needed to make some extra dough, but it's all so vague at this point. And when he was a firefighter, he drove the truck for most of his career, but I'm pretty sure they took him off driving for a while because he had a few accidents. And I think he may have had an accident in his own truck that was all hushed up, but I can't really remember any of the details. It doesn't really bother me anymore because I'm an adult, and they can do whatever with their stupid-generous retirement income. It was just so weird at the time knowing how much was coming in, and yet we never seemed to benefit from it.
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Aug 18, 2017 21:12
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potee posted:The Louie Theroux documentary on gambling is worth a watch. At around the 30 minute mark, they introduce this old lady whose husband died and the casino was sending people to pretend to be her friend while she put 4 million into their slot machines. I wonder how many people reach the point of dementia where they're no longer legally able to sign contracts and are out there gambling away their life's savings. Like they were never gamblers when they had their wits about them but now that they've turned naive and gullible they're sure they'll win big.
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green chicken feet posted:I wonder how many people reach the point of dementia where they're no longer legally able to sign contracts and are out there gambling away their life's savings. Like they were never gamblers when they had their wits about them but now that they've turned naive and gullible they're sure they'll win big. As many as statistically possible
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Aug 18, 2017 22:47
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There's that dumb program where problem gamblers can ask casinos to deny them future entry, but it doesn't actually work. They've done studies where the find that only about 5% of the said gamblers on the list are ever identified at the door and turned away. The larger problem though is that if they stop you, you can just say "Take me off the list and let me in." and they're legally obligated to comply. So you can put yourself on a list because you have an uncontrollable problem and want the professionals to bar you entry, except that they have to let you in if you ask.
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Aug 18, 2017 22:51
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I doubt casinos have to let you in. They're private businesses, it would be perfectly legal for them to just say "no you can't gamble here"
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ranbo das posted:I doubt casinos have to let you in. They're private businesses, it would be perfectly legal for them to just say "no you can't gamble here" They want you to squander your money. They aren't going to refuse ANYONE unless they are underage.
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Aug 18, 2017 23:55
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ranbo das posted:I doubt casinos have to let you in. They're private businesses, it would be perfectly legal for them to just say "no you can't gamble here"
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limpy wimpy posted:They want you to squander your money. They aren't going to refuse ANYONE unless they are underage. If they really want to be blacklisted they should attempt to cheat and get caught.
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limpy wimpy posted:They want you to squander your money. They aren't going to refuse ANYONE unless they are underage. Gambling establishments by nature don't operate with any sort of conscience, so yeah, this
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Aug 19, 2017 00:41
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You can join voluntary but legitimately enforced universal (within state?) casino blacklists.
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Pick posted:You can join voluntary but legitimately enforced universal (within state?) casino blacklists. Not sure how it works state to state, the lists are legitimately enforced, but the blacklisted gambler can ask to be taken off the list without any requirements if they put themselves on the list in the first place. So you end up with addicts coming in, losing it all, asking to be put on the blacklist, returning a week later, ask to be taken off the list, gamble it all away again, then repeat the whole process ad-nauseum. My sis used to work at a casino, and the standard practice used to be to stop the blacklistee at the door, but the guys at the door would have a stack of forms there because virtually every self-blacklister would take themselves off the list and put themselves back on a rotating basis every other week.
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That's at least not the case in a few states where I know people who work at casinos  .Don't get me wrong, casinos are awful, awful places but it's not like they're unregulated.
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Aug 19, 2017 01:45
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Christmas of 1988, my aunt got me a lovely generic trucker cap, a lovely plastic water bottle, and a lovely deck of playing cards in a wrinkled brown paper bag with my name Sharpied on it. My aunt is loaded.
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I did that thing where i used a washer dryer for a year and returned it to costco because the place i was moving to already had them. Like cheap people are my pet peeve but i guess theres a point i just don't care about being an rear end or a hypocrite. I dunno its like if you drop a 20 ill give it back, but if you drop a briefcase full of money I would instinctively want to grab it and run and may not even be able to suppress that urge if i think i can get away with it. I guess my dislike of cheapness isnt really a moral issue im just annoyed they would trade their dignity for such a pittance.
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Like i guess im saying you dont get embarrassed for a bank robber for displaying a much more depraved selfishness, its somehow almost more socially acceptable than holding up the line so gramma can bust out the coupons. Im aware of the absurdity of it but i cant change the way i percieve it.
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A place I worked at in the past gave everyone a company water bottle in order to reduce paper cup waste. Sounds fine, even admirable, right? The water bottles were so cheaply made that they turned water and tea from clear to blue. A week later, everyone received an email stating to no longer use them as the chemicals used to make them leeched into the water and made a couple of people so sick they were admitted to the hospital.
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DogonCrook posted:Like i guess im saying you dont get embarrassed for a bank robber for displaying a much more depraved selfishness, its somehow almost more socially acceptable than holding up the line so gramma can bust out the coupons. Im aware of the absurdity of it but i cant change the way i percieve it. For content, I went for lunch with an acquaintance once. We split the bill and each paid our share. Then they proceeded to argue with me about the size of the tip I was leaving on my share of the meal, trying to get me to reduce it to match their carefully computed 15% or whatever, as if the size of my tip had any bearing on them or their share. Cheapness by proxy.
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You Are A Elf posted:Christmas of 1988, my aunt got me a lovely generic trucker cap, a lovely plastic water bottle, and a lovely deck of playing cards in a wrinkled brown paper bag with my name Sharpied on it. Ah the old "Oh poo poo I forgot they had a kid. Well the only place open today is the gas stop, better buy a gift there" maneuver. You're lucky you didn't end up with a quart of engine oil and a road map. Edit: NOT THAT I'M STILL BITTER, AUNT JULIE
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DogonCrook posted:I dunno its like if you drop a 20 ill give it back, but if you drop a briefcase full of money I would instinctively want to grab it and run and may not even be able to suppress that urge if i think i can get away with it. I guess my dislike of cheapness isnt really a moral issue im just annoyed they would trade their dignity for such a pittance. I found a random $100 bill on the floor inside a business and just pocketed it quickly. So turns out that's my moral threshold. To be clear, I didn't see it fall out of anyone's pocket, it was just there. WampaLord fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Aug 19, 2017 |
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HerStuddMuffin posted:For content, I went for lunch with an acquaintance once. We split the bill and each paid our share. Then they proceeded to argue with me about the size of the tip I was leaving on my share of the meal, trying to get me to reduce it to match their carefully computed 15% or whatever, as if the size of my tip had any bearing on them or their share. Cheapness by proxy. I've heard similar stories where a bunch of people ate a meal together and someone threw down extra for the tip and one of the other people took the 'extra' and put it in their own pocket
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I've heard similar stories where a bunch of people ate a meal together and someone threw down extra for the tip and one of the other people took the 'extra' and put it in their own pocket This is common enough that places Ive worked at had in the company manual youre only allowed to tip via card.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I've heard similar stories where a bunch of people ate a meal together and someone threw down extra for the tip and one of the other people took the 'extra' and put it in their own pocket My brother has done this.
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Want to make sure you never see your grandkids? This is how you make sure you never see your grandkids.quote:Dear Amy: I sent a check for $300 to my mother to cover my daughter’s expenses during her visit. Upon my daughter’s return, my mother sent me an invoice for $475.50 for additional expenses, including the cost of gas to and from the airport to transport her (45 minutes away), train tickets to go to the city to a museum and the cost of the museum admission. It was an itemized bill. https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...m=.07179e003c4f
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Someone lost a whole box of toilet paper on the interstate today. I almost pulled over and got some.
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