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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

Yeah, they are at moderate doses. Why else do you think TRT is becoming extremely common?

I'm sure crystal meth will help you lose weight at moderate doses as well, and it's way more common than juicing. Still isn't a good idea.

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Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

Yeah, they are at moderate doses. Why else do you think TRT is becoming extremely common?

rich white people moving from prescription oxy to shooting heroin is becoming extremely common too

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


now before you accuse me of taking a wild hysterical leap from hormones to heroin let me assure you I am well aware of the massive differences, such as exactly which part of your brain ends up with no loving clue how much of a certain chemical it's supposed to produce, or which part of your body you inject it into, or how different the detrimental effects to your body are if you suddenly stop doing them

and of course the circumstances which lead to their use are wildly different, obviously in one case it's "my broken brain tells me I need this drug to feel good" and in the other it's "my broken brain tells me I need this drug to look good"

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Glenn Quebec posted:

I honestly want to watch juiced out MMA matches with two gorillas with enlarged hearts pummeling each other into heart attacks.

I think it was mentioned but the match you want is Kimbo Slice vs Dada 5000. Spoiler alert: Dada literally loses via heart attack but survives. Kimbo dies some time later, guess how

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Hell yeah

But I'd like them talented too. I know I know.

Brain Curry
Feb 15, 2007

People think that I'm lazy
People think that I'm this fool because
I give a fuck about the government
I didn't graduate from high school



Glenn Quebec posted:

I honestly want to watch juiced out MMA matches with two gorillas with enlarged hearts pummeling each other into heart attacks.

PRIDE never die

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
I just want to see a contemporary hulk hogan type but in mma. With the skin of a cooked hotdog and the silken blonde hair of a Chinamen; fight to, "I am a real American. "

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

Yeah, they are at moderate doses. Why else do you think TRT is becoming extremely common?

Can't wait until jumping off a bridge becomes extremely common.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Glenn Quebec posted:

the silken blonde hair of a Chinamen

:yikes:

Calvin Johnson Jr.
Dec 8, 2009
Yeah, all these endocrinologists administering TRT are just retarded...

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
I wouldn't call them retarded, no. Maybe unethical.

Calvin Johnson Jr.
Dec 8, 2009
Yeah, why would I want to have the hormone levels I had when I was in my 20s when I'm 40? That wouldn't improve your quality of life at all, right?

Like with any drug, dosages matter. There's differences between TRT level doses and running tren. All I've seen you guys discuss are tren stories when most guys won't go near that stuff and posting pictures of people who hosed up their bodies that weren't even caused by steroids alone in the first place.

I'll check out of this thread unless some actual medical professionals want to chime in on HRT.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Who What Now posted:

I wouldn't call them retarded, no. Maybe unethical.

How do you feel about HRT? Or the female birth control pill?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Are the people in the steroids thread doing this under the supervision of an endocrinologist, then? If not, why wouldn't they do that?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

willie_dee posted:

How do you feel about HRT? Or the female birth control pill?

I feel like that's some grade A false equivocation.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Subjunctive posted:

Are the people in the steroids thread doing this under the supervision of an endocrinologist, then? If not, why wouldn't they do that?

The NHS is made up of Dr's who are of the opinion that if it isn't broke, don't try and fix it. The GP I went to was hilariously against testosterone to the point where she got a warning from the head GP for giving me absolutely terrible advice. She told me I should be grateful I was so thin and should enjoy long walks in the park and gardening instead of lifting weights and doing mma because it was healthier, so she wouldn't even consider testing my testosterone levels because the fact I even wanted to get big and strong meant mine were too high and I was already a danger to society.

When I did get my bloodwork done I was healthy on all fronts so they wouldn't give me Testosterone, which is fair enough. I took my blood work results to Dr's who I work with, they said give Testosterone a go if your going to, just don't take anything else like Tren, so I did, got my bloods done once off and all agreed I was all healthy, but 40lbs heavier and much stronger.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Who What Now posted:

I feel like that's some grade A false equivocation.

I feel like you should probably learn a bit more about TRT and steroids before making GBS threads on them like you are part of the 1970's era "JUST SAY NO KIDS ALL DRUGS ARE BAD".

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

willie_dee posted:

The NHS is made up of Dr's who are of the opinion that if it isn't broke, don't try and fix it. The GP I went to was hilariously against testosterone to the point where she got a warning from the head GP for giving me absolutely terrible advice. She told me I should be grateful I was so thin and should enjoy long walks in the park and gardening instead of lifting weights and doing mma because it was healthier, so she wouldn't even consider testing my testosterone levels because the fact I even wanted to get big and strong meant mine were too high and I was already a danger to society.

When I did get my bloodwork done I was healthy on all fronts so they wouldn't give me Testosterone, which is fair enough. I took my blood work results to Dr's who I work with, they said give Testosterone a go if your going to, just don't take anything else like Tren, so I did, got my bloods done once off and all agreed I was all healthy, but 40lbs heavier and much stronger.

So "no".

I didn't ask about a GP, I asked about someone whose expertise with hormone effects might even, if they were at the top of their class, approach your own. Why wouldn't you want to work with one if hormone treatment is such an important part of your life?

Jinh
Sep 12, 2008

Fun Shoe
Nobody with a functioning sense of self worth wants to learn about steroids

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


It's the doctors who are wrong

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

But yeah, if even the majority of that thread, let alone all of the posters, are operating on medical advice of any kind, I would be very very surprised, albeit pleasantly.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


All doctors are infallible that's why the phrase "a second opinion" is so rarely used

Also all doctors hand out prescriptions with the utmost care and focus on the patient's true overall well-being, they are totally unrelated to both the ongoing opioid epidemic, and the fact that stimulants are so grossly overprescribed that there have been nationwide shortages of Adderall and poo poo

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I had a doctor who gave me simultaneous prescriptions for Xanax and Adderall :downs:

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Andrast posted:

It's the doctors who are wrong

What if two doctors tell you two different things? They can't both be right. Did you even think your post through?

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


oldpainless posted:

What if two doctors tell you two different things? They can't both be right. Did you even think your post through?

gently caress, time to use steroids I guess

Calvin Johnson Jr.
Dec 8, 2009

Kelp Me! posted:

All doctors are infallible that's why the phrase "a second opinion" is so rarely used

Also all doctors hand out prescriptions with the utmost care and focus on the patient's true overall well-being, they are totally unrelated to both the ongoing opioid epidemic, and the fact that stimulants are so grossly overprescribed that there have been nationwide shortages of Adderall and poo poo

There's a big difference between a general practitioner and a specialist but okay.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

e: nvm, mixed up the braindead av-less meatheads

Rockman Reserve has a new favorite as of 19:58 on Aug 18, 2017

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Kelp Me! posted:

All doctors are infallible that's why the phrase "a second opinion" is so rarely used

Also all doctors hand out prescriptions with the utmost care and focus on the patient's true overall well-being, they are totally unrelated to both the ongoing opioid epidemic, and the fact that stimulants are so grossly overprescribed that there have been nationwide shortages of Adderall and poo poo

Slight derail but do we know why there were nationwide Adderall shortages? I thought the manufacturers created an artificial shortage to drive people to non-generics. https://www.thefix.com/content/pay-attention-adderall-add-big-pharma7004 And the manufacturers blamed the DEA, right? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shortages-of-adderall-other-adhd-drugs-expected-in-2012-report/
I don't remember how this resolved.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

I'll check out of this thread unless some actual medical professionals want to chime in on HRT.

You actually have higher medical standards for this thread than the stuff you're injecting into yourself.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Kelp Me! posted:

I had a doctor who gave me simultaneous prescriptions for Xanax and Adderall :downs:

Same, only I have to go to tiajuana every time I see him to reup my prescriptions.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

oldpainless posted:

What if two doctors tell you two different things? They can't both be right. Did you even think your post through?

more like oldlabyrinthless

You ask one doctor - it doesn't matter which - what the other doctor would say are the meds that won't kill you. Then you ignore that advice and take the other meds.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

There's a big difference between a general practitioner and a specialist but okay.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/penny-wilson/myths-about-general-practitioners_b_3937618.html

http://www.bmj.com/content/354/bmj.i5097

but okay

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

willie_dee posted:

The NHS is made up of Dr's who are of the opinion that if it isn't broke, don't try and fix it. The GP I went to was hilariously against testosterone to the point where she got a warning from the head GP for giving me absolutely terrible advice. She told me I should be grateful I was so thin and should enjoy long walks in the park and gardening instead of lifting weights and doing mma because it was healthier, so she wouldn't even consider testing my testosterone levels because the fact I even wanted to get big and strong meant mine were too high and I was already a danger to society.

When I did get my bloodwork done I was healthy on all fronts so they wouldn't give me Testosterone, which is fair enough. I took my blood work results to Dr's who I work with, they said give Testosterone a go if your going to, just don't take anything else like Tren, so I did, got my bloods done once off and all agreed I was all healthy, but 40lbs heavier and much stronger.

What I want to know is how come, after all that, you're still a sub-205 bitch?

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro
Doctors over prescribing poo poo they maybe shouldn't is half the reason we have an opioid epidemic and also why antibiotic resistant strains of regular diseases will probably be reaping through our cities soon.

What I'm saying here is, you'll need some plump fuckin muscles to fight off the heroin ghouls and superbugs, so keep roidin, Camacho!

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Kelp Me! posted:

All doctors are infallible that's why the phrase "a second opinion" is so rarely used

Also all doctors hand out prescriptions with the utmost care and focus on the patient's true overall well-being, they are totally unrelated to both the ongoing opioid epidemic, and the fact that stimulants are so grossly overprescribed that there have been nationwide shortages of Adderall and poo poo

On the other hand shooting horse drugs into your rear end and mixing and marching with no educated input at all

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Arnold Schwarzenegger took a bunch of steroids and he's pretty darn great.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Kelp Me! posted:

I had a doctor who gave me simultaneous prescriptions for Xanax and Adderall :downs:

My psychologist gives me simultaneous scrips for both of those too. But she described exactly what they were for and how they would interact so I could make an informed decision on using them. They didn't just say "Well, I can't technically stop you, so don't sue me if you die."

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn

Glenn Quebec posted:

I honestly want to watch juiced out MMA matches with two gorillas with enlarged hearts pummeling each other into heart attacks.

Watch this

https://www.mma-core.com/videos/Alistair_Overeem_vs_Brock_Lesnar_UFC_141_Full_Fight/10128405

Calvin Johnson Jr.
Dec 8, 2009

Aphrodite posted:

You actually have higher medical standards for this thread than the stuff you're injecting into yourself.

unless my test is pharmacy-sourced and the person I give my bloodwork results to is an actual endocrinologist (he is).

I'm not currently injecting anything, haha. I ran my cycle and am back to baseline. Woe is me. Life sucks so much being in the best shape of my life. :(

Remember guys, there is absolutely no middle ground between blasting tren and a gram of test and lifting natural. That'd be a wild concept.

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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Man, it looks like all the cool guys are taking steroids.

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