Path of Exile: every single mob was a 20 ft tall goatman. The loot was "good"

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whypick1: Dec 18, 2009; Just another jackass on the Internet

Dennis McClaren posted:

I hope this makes sense..

If I have a skill like say Reave, or Viper Strike that I use as a melee attack, and the weapon I use with that skill is enchanted with some sort of elemental or chaos damage (like say wpn adds +10-15 cold damage)... Does the Reave or Viper Strike (whatever) attack skill get the bonus from the weapon, in addition to the effects of the Attack Skill? Or does the weapon's effects get over-rided by the Attack Skills effects?

Added to

Now, there are some caveats:

1. Modifiers are either local or global. The ones on your weapon that says "Adds x-y <type> damage" are local. Now let's say you're using Reave, which works on claws/daggers/1H swords, but have an axe in your offhand. Its local modifiers don't affect Reave because that weapon isn't actually used in the attack. If it had "x% increased attack speed" however, that's global, which means that even though said axe isn't being used, you'll attack faster with Reave. Added damage modifiers not on weapons will be global.
2. Conversions and overrides. Conversions may increase/decrease and will change the type of damage. Going back to that added cold damage, let's say you allocated Avatar of Fire. All of your damage will only ever be fire, but only 50% of elemental and physical damage is converted. Then you'll have overrides like Brutality, which flat out make it so you don't deal any damage that's not physical. That added cold damage could be 300-400, but you'll get absolutely nothing out of it.

whypick1 fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Aug 19, 2017

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TheOneAndOnlyT: Dec 18, 2005; Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Dennis McClaren posted:

I hope this makes sense..

If I have a skill like say Reave, or Viper Strike that I use as a melee attack, and the weapon I use with that skill is enchanted with some sort of elemental or chaos damage (like say wpn adds +10-15 cold damage)... Does the Reave or Viper Strike (whatever) attack skill get the bonus from the weapon, in addition to the effects of the Attack Skill? Or does the weapon's effects get over-rided by the Attack Skills effects?

In your case the weapon bonus damage would be added to the skill.

You can tell if your skill is affected by your weapon by checking the list of skill tags at the top of the window you get when you mouse over the gem. "Attack" skills take weapon damage into account and are usually described as "deals x% of attack damage." "Spell" skills don't care about weapon damage at all, but usually gain a lot more power when the skill levels up.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 05:38

Dennis McClaren: Mar 28, 2007; "Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!

Ok great, that makes sense. Thank you.
I was advised by another goon in guild chat to just sell all the magic rare's I get that I won't use to the vendors for now, since I'm only lv24.
At what level should I start holding onto the stuff that I can't use to sell on poe.trade, instead of turning it into vendor trash. Basically at what level do magic rare gear drops start becoming valuable? I'm low level at 24 so it will probably be awhile..

# ? Aug 19, 2017 05:46

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

Dennis McClaren posted:

Ok great, that makes sense. Thank you.
I was advised by another goon in guild chat to just sell all the magic rare's I get that I won't use to the vendors for now, since I'm only lv24.
At what level should I start holding onto the stuff that I can't use to sell on poe.trade, instead of turning it into vendor trash. Basically at what level do magic rare gear drops start becoming valuable? I'm low level at 24 so it will probably be awhile..

the overwhelming majority of yellow items you pick up at every level will be vendor trash. No point keeping anything that isnt a direct upgrade to your gear, till maybe level 50ish.

Once its got a bunch of life and high resistances on it, then they start to be worth something.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 05:57

Jazerus: May 24, 2011

Dennis McClaren posted:

Ok great, that makes sense. Thank you.
I was advised by another goon in guild chat to just sell all the magic rare's I get that I won't use to the vendors for now, since I'm only lv24.
At what level should I start holding onto the stuff that I can't use to sell on poe.trade, instead of turning it into vendor trash. Basically at what level do magic rare gear drops start becoming valuable? I'm low level at 24 so it will probably be awhile..

you're always gonna vendor like 99% of the rares you find

it's just that once you hit maps (~68) you start looking out for the good stuff while selling your rares

# ? Aug 19, 2017 05:58

Dennis McClaren: Mar 28, 2007; "Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!

Thats good news. I'm having a blast just leveling and burning through poo poo, I really didn't want to have to slow down to worry about loot; other than just normal upgrades.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 06:11

Duck and Cover: Apr 6, 2007

Dennis McClaren posted:

Thats good news. I'm having a blast just leveling and burning through poo poo, I really didn't want to have to slow down to worry about loot; other than just normal upgrades.

Eww leveling.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 06:31

Sillybones: Aug 10, 2013; go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

Every now and then I get item drops that have T0 rolls on them as if they were made by essences. Where are they coming from?

# ? Aug 19, 2017 06:42

McFrugal: Oct 11, 2003

Ratios and Tendency posted:

I just found an ~800 evasion 6L armour with +life and resists but it's corrupted and has 3 red/2 blue/1 green sockets. Is it worth anything or does the corruption ruin it?

6L corrupted rares with good stats are valuable if they have off-color sockets. Or even if they don't. I'm saying sell that poo poo. You can probably get upwards of 20c.

whypick1 posted:

Added to

Now, there are some caveats:

1. Modifiers are either local or global. The ones on your weapon that says "Adds x-y <type> damage" are local. Now let's say you're using Reave, which works on claws/daggers/1H swords, but have an axe in your offhand. Its local modifiers don't affect Reave because that weapon isn't actually used in the attack. If it had "x% increased attack speed" however, that's global, which means that even though said axe isn't being used, you'll attack faster with Reave. Added damage modifiers not on weapons will be global.
2. Conversions and overrides. Conversions may increase/decrease and will change the type of damage. Going back to that added cold damage, let's say you allocated Avatar of Fire. All of your damage will only ever be fire, but only 50% of elemental and physical damage is converted. Then you'll have overrides like Brutality, which flat out make it so you don't deal any damage that's not physical. That added cold damage could be 300-400, but you'll get absolutely nothing out of it.

Attack speed on a weapon is a local mod, bro.

Like the Help topic says, anything on an item that would affect the item itself and is not explicitly called "global" is going to be a local mod. Attack speed, damage, and crit are all local on weapons.

McFrugal fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Aug 19, 2017

# ? Aug 19, 2017 06:42

Goa Tse-tung: Feb 11, 2008; ;3; Yams Fan

Pastry Mistakes posted:

Just reposting, looking for help.

the very first marauder melee node is insane value, always take it
you can save one travel node around the templar area
get rid of the all stat and leech nodes, because you are going to path to VP (and get that cwdt setup)
get a second Weigth, Survival Skills is a placeholder I hope :colbert:

*looks at skills*

wait why do you even have one Weight so scratch the last part :psyduck:

https://pastebin.com/qvvhfEuc

# ? Aug 19, 2017 06:43

forbidden dialectics: Jul 26, 2005

Woah, this is kind of a weird drop, but it's got me and my friends completely hooked on this game

# ? Aug 19, 2017 06:55

Wafflecopper: Nov 27, 2004; I am a mouth, and I must scream

McFrugal posted:

6L corrupted rares with good stats are valuable if they have off-color sockets. Or even if they don't. I'm saying sell that poo poo. You can probably get upwards of 20c.

That's 5 off-colours. Depending on exactly how much life and resists I'd guess a fair bit over 20c. Then again I'm kind of bad at pricing stuff so :shrug:

# ? Aug 19, 2017 06:56

McFrugal: Oct 11, 2003

Wafflecopper posted:

That's 5 off-colours. Depending on exactly how much life and resists I'd guess a fair bit over 20c. Then again I'm kind of bad at pricing stuff so

Yeah that's what I mean. He didn't say how much life or resists.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 07:12

Kurash: May 12, 2008

euphronius posted:

Cyclone needs mana leech and a mana pool to feel ok so level with something else imho.

euphronius posted:

Ssf is a challenge league

Imho you'd have more fun playing standard since you have never done maps. Imho

euphronius posted:

The game is plenty hard and challenging even with trading . Imho .

euphronius posted:

Trading is easy

Shop for something good in the 1-20 chaos range and make a deal. Save up for big 200 c purchases or maybe you get a good drop.

Imho.

euphronius posted:

An Alch or chrom

Imho

Wowwww

# ? Aug 19, 2017 07:36

pork never goes bad: May 16, 2008

U mad

Edit no wait eu mad

# ? Aug 19, 2017 07:37

Qwertycoatl: Dec 31, 2008

Sillybones posted:

Every now and then I get item drops that have T0 rolls on them as if they were made by essences. Where are they coming from?

There's a bunch of new hybrid mods like "life+armour". If you got that and also the old "life" one, then it would look the same to the item macro as an excessively good life roll and a crappy armour roll.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 07:41

terrified of my bathroom: Jan 24, 2014; GAY BOATS

Heaps of Sheeps posted:

Woah, this is kind of a weird drop, but it's got me and my friends completely hooked on this game

lmfao

# ? Aug 19, 2017 08:16

Ratios and Tendency: Apr 23, 2010; MURALI

McFrugal posted:

Yeah that's what I mean. He didn't say how much life or resists.

Not sure what the best way to link it in here is.

6l rare destiny leather

779 evasion
+15 evasion
26% increased evasion
+55 life
+20 cold resist
+29 lightning resist
24% increased stun and block recovery
corrupted

# ? Aug 19, 2017 08:19

Qwertycoatl: Dec 31, 2008

Argh, decisions.... I want to drop $60 on a supporter pack, and the outlaw armour set is way better looking than the harbinger one but doesn't come with a cool tiger.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 08:22

Awesome!: Oct 17, 2008; Ready for adventure!

it is a very good tiger

i think the outlaw armor looks pretty boring

# ? Aug 19, 2017 08:39

Goa Tse-tung: Feb 11, 2008; ;3; Yams Fan

Qwertycoatl posted:

Argh, decisions.... I want to drop $60 on a supporter pack, and the outlaw armour set is way better looking than the harbinger one but doesn't come with a cool tiger.

get both

# ? Aug 19, 2017 09:16

vOv: Feb 8, 2014

I really like the outlaw set with the 'shaper' hood or whatever it's called and the glowing blue harbinger eyes.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 09:17

Goa Tse-tung: Feb 11, 2008; ;3; Yams Fan

I've been watching Uberelite's stream for a bit, and I'm actually glad they nerfed Beachheads, because elemental Animate Weapon deletes literally everything in seconds.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/TheuberClips/characters

# ? Aug 19, 2017 09:34

Pierson: Oct 31, 2004; College Slice

I've decided rather than neurotically save every single type of currency/essense/whatever in the off-chance it will be more useful later I'm just gonna use everything whenever I want and be happy with cool items early on.

That said is there anything I should 100% not use anywhere but the endgame?

# ? Aug 19, 2017 10:10

vOv: Feb 8, 2014

Pierson posted:

I've decided rather than neurotically save every single type of currency/essense/whatever in the off-chance it will be more useful later I'm just gonna use everything whenever I want and be happy with cool items early on.

That said is there anything I should 100% not use anywhere but the endgame?

Chaos orbs, gemcutter prisms, divine orbs, and exalted orbs (and mirrors if you have God's own luck) are generally more useful as currency than as crafting tools.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 10:13

Qwertycoatl: Dec 31, 2008

I got the tiger. It is a very good tiger. And the armour is at least significantly better than the tabula I'm using to level this guy.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 10:53

dis astranagant: Dec 14, 2006

Pierson posted:

I've decided rather than neurotically save every single type of currency/essense/whatever in the off-chance it will be more useful later I'm just gonna use everything whenever I want and be happy with cool items early on.

That said is there anything I should 100% not use anywhere but the endgame?

Fusings are expensive right now so you're probably better off buying things linked than linking them yourself until endgame.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 11:06

Azran: Sep 3, 2012; And what should one do to be remembered?

I really want that Pure Light armor set but I know that with my luck I will end up with 10 Beast Eyes decorations or something.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 11:14

Pastry Mistakes: Apr 6, 2009

Goa Tse-tung posted:

the very first marauder melee node is insane value, always take it
you can save one travel node around the templar area
get rid of the all stat and leech nodes, because you are going to path to VP (and get that cwdt setup)
get a second Weigth, Survival Skills is a placeholder I hope

*looks at skills*

wait why do you even have one Weight so scratch the last part

https://pastebin.com/qvvhfEuc

I wish I saw your post before I reallocated all my drat lifeleech skill points like so:
https://pastebin.com/UKQjUzsw
But hey at least I'm at 205% life now, so yay?

I haven't been able to afford any real updated Jewels, nor do I even know what to really look for. The only reason I had those equipped was because I used to use Heavy Strike. And yeah Survival Skills was a placeholder - but mainly just a placeholder so I could get rid of Weight. I figured better 2 stats I could take advantage of than one.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 12:01

Valle: Apr 16, 2004; Telling customers how to solve world problems since 2001

Azran posted:

I really want that Pure Light armor set but I know that with my luck I will end up with 10 Beast Eyes decorations or something.

I see your beast eye and raise you 4 white ferns.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 14:12

Kild: Apr 24, 2010

Ratios and Tendency posted:

Not sure what the best way to link it in here is.

6l rare destiny leather

779 evasion
+15 evasion
26% increased evasion
+55 life
+20 cold resist
+29 lightning resist
24% increased stun and block recovery
corrupted

You can ctrl c and ctrl v to paste items.

like this:

Rarity: Unique
Pledge of Hands
Judgement Staff
--------
Staff
Quality: +20% (augmented)
Physical Damage: 73-136 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 6.10%
Attacks per Second: 1.25
Weapon Range: 11
--------
Requirements:
Level: 68
Str: 113
Dex: 67
Int: 146
--------
Sockets: B-B-R-B-G R
--------
Item Level: 75
--------
18% Chance to Block
--------
Socketed Gems are Supported by level 30 Spell Echo
153% increased Spell Damage
100% increased maximum Mana
--------
"To shake a hand is to double your power."
- Jaetai, Queen's Advisor

# ? Aug 19, 2017 14:50

Soothing Vapors: Mar 26, 2006; Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

I have everything but the pure light wings and I.dont have the stomach.to keep buying packs till I get them

# ? Aug 19, 2017 14:57

Salvor_Hardin: Sep 13, 2005; I want to go protest.; Nap Ghost

Anyone running the tornado shot mines? Looks fun as hell but I can't find a good guide.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 15:01

Goa Tse-tung: Feb 11, 2008; ;3; Yams Fan

alright I give up, every build is shaper viable, gently caress em up fam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7MRWglv95E

# ? Aug 19, 2017 15:05

Ornedan: Nov 4, 2009; Cybernetic Crumb

Flavahbeast posted:

it's a girl????

Villa boss is a buffed up version of 'Caliga, Imperatrix' from 2nd floor of lower sceptre.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 16:17

funmanguy: Apr 20, 2006; What time is it?

Goa Tse-tung posted:

alright I give up, every build is shaper viable, gently caress em up fam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7MRWglv95E

That shield is very very good

Also I hit 36 challenges and wanted to share my attempt and making the Harbinger MTX look as good as possible.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 16:45

Dr. Despair: Nov 4, 2009; 39 perfect posts with each roll.

funmanguy posted:

That shield is very very good

Also I hit 36 challenges and wanted to share my attempt and making the Harbinger MTX look as good as possible.

# ? Aug 19, 2017 17:14

Minera: Sep 26, 2007; All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

this league is my first time doing red maps extensively and aiming at eventually killing shaper and wew lad, this game desperately needs some kind of a kill log so you can actually tell why the gently caress you died when you get one shot

also should I run beachhead maps now or just save em in hopes that GGG "fixes" harbingers again, only for real this time

# ? Aug 19, 2017 18:26

whypick1: Dec 18, 2009; Just another jackass on the Internet

Minrad posted:

tell why the gently caress you died when you get one shot

Your HP hit 0 :ms:

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CubeTheory: Mar 26, 2010; Cube Reversal

What should I be using my Ancient Orbs on?

# ? Aug 19, 2017 19:23

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