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Earwicker posted:that video a page or two ago by the weird irish kid really nailed it Yea, it's basically the summation of this thread's thesis in a nicely done little video. And his voice is fine, stop being goony about it, y'all (not you Earwicker, you're cool  )
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berth ell pup posted:yeah i mean that's a good episode but that ending was really pretty bad. 9 year old me found the "it's still good, it's still good!"/"when pigs fly" bit unbelievably funny. Yeah the ending wasn't great but cmon IM SARGENT PEPPERS LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND I HOPE YOU WILL ENJOY MY SHOW And now lots when me or my husband asks the other to grab something the response while getting it will be "here you GO" That sounds like a fun idea. Like you'd stream it you mean? Also I'm wondering what people thought was the first unfunny treehouse episode? Not coincidentally, it's season 9 for me. 54 40 or fuck fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Aug 19, 2017 |
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54 40 or gently caress posted:Also I'm wondering what people thought was the first unfunny treehouse episode? Not coincidentally, it's season 9 for me. *nudging next poster, whispering* He's crazy. No, you're right though, it's definitely a lot less good than the last one. You're also right about the ending to Lisa the Vegetarian. Apu singing and the McCartneys bopping along would probably make a great looping avatar. edit: Well not an avatar, but it's such a cute bit of animation. 
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Season 1 isn't so bad
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Groovelord Neato posted:the kim basinger episode has some funny bits to it. homer giving alec his script is great. i like when they ask if Ron Howard can drive and he dramatically replies "Not well..." always got a giggle out of me as a kid.
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Cobweb Heart posted:*nudging next poster, whispering* He's crazy. I'm clearly a terrible Old Simpsons fan because tbh I don't like the Treehouse of Horror series. I think that's three strikes now so I'm out as a bone fide Simpsons fan itt. I mean they aren't bad but I just don't like them  .
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berth ell pup posted:I'm clearly a terrible Old Simpsons fan because tbh I don't like the Treehouse of Horror series. I think that's three strikes now so I'm out as a bone fide Simpsons fan itt. I never liked the treehouse of horror episodes. The only one I thought was cool was 3D homer
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facebook jihad posted:Season 1 isn't so bad When I re-watched season 1 it was kind of a shock. When I was a kid I always disliked it because of lousy, wobbly animation and the fact that the character and jokes weren't quite there yet. But watching it again as an adult it was much more cutting, satirical and dark than I remembered. Just thinking of things like the way the RV guy exploits Homer's insecure sense of middle-class machoism to convince him to buy a terrible RV, or how Marge tries to get Lisa to bottle up her depression and plaster on a smile for the public, it really was so counter-cultural in a way that even two seasons later they mostly got rid of. Its not the Simpsons at its best but I can kind of see why it made such a splash and pushed the buttons of the George Bush's of this world and that was so important for setting the series apart at the time, there just wasn't anything like it.
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khwarezm posted:When I re-watched season 1 it was kind of a shock. When I was a kid I always disliked it because of lousy, wobbly animation and the fact that the character and jokes weren't quite there yet. But watching it again as an adult it was much more cutting, satirical and dark than I remembered. Just thinking of things like the way the RV guy exploits Homer's insecure sense of middle-class machoism to convince him to buy a terrible RV, or how Marge tries to get Lisa to bottle up her depression and plaster on a smile for the public, it really was so counter-cultural in a way that even two seasons later they mostly got rid of. Its not the Simpsons at its best but I can kind of see why it made such a splash and pushed the buttons of the George Bush's of this world and that was so important for setting the series apart at the time, there just wasn't anything like it. Yeah funny enough a lot the "cultural critique" label that gets applied to The Simpsons really shows up most sharply in the first season. They sort of pivoted away from that pointedness pretty quickly; stuff like Homer the Heretic feels a lot softer to me than, as you mention, Marge's propagation of patriarchy or whatever.
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didn't see it posted here yet so armymans.tumblr.com short lived indie zine made by george meyer with bits by swartzwelder and other good early simpons writers. sam simon was a big fan and pretty much just nabbed everyone to work on the show so if you like Good Simpsons humor you'll probably like this a lot too
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Last Chance posted:i like when they ask if Ron Howard can drive and he dramatically replies "Not well..." always got a giggle out of me as a kid. Ron Howard making the jump and then immediately falling is a highlight to me. I think the series stays pretty watchable up to season 11 right up to Behind the Laughter, which is genuinely great. Then it starts getting bad. I do love this bit from one of the stupider episodes though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9QSdLDGt7I
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Groovelord Neato posted:the kim basinger episode has some funny bits to it. homer giving alec his script is great. regarding the video that was posted: somebody posted the 15 second clip of the season 4 episode with Roger Meyers Jr. taunting a harvard kid earlier in the thread, and it was just as packed with jokes. then there was a clip posted from season 11 that had one funny moment over 30 seconds. lastly, somebody posted a later-season clip where homer gets into a fight with chinese monks or whatever, and it was long, drawn out, and had a joke explained. pretty stunning comparisons
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VJeff posted:Ron Howard making the jump and then immediately falling is a highlight to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyZs3EJgx8Q
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Last Chance posted:I think Simpsons s9 through s11 are an interesting study in a descent into terribleness Was it the point the show should have ended? I mean if we're looking for a lowest point I don't think we should be looking at it like an arc or valley or whatever, most shows just hit a very terrible set of seasons and decide to end it before they piss away all goodwill. Aside from GoT who just got lucky in that they ran out of material but still had an idea of how everything was going to end in a season or two anyway.
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Jose posted:what is wrong with you
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Jose posted:what is wrong with you I chuckled when it's revealed to be on PBS if that's the joke I dunno.
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same, except I tell everyone how the times have changed
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evilmiera posted:I mean if we're looking for a lowest point I don't think we should be looking at it like an arc or valley or whatever, most shows just hit a very terrible set of seasons and decide to end it before they piss away all goodwill. Aside from GoT who just got lucky in that they ran out of material but still had an idea of how everything was going to end in a season or two anyway. the lowest point is right now. both in terms of average ratings and in terms of the fact that they are still making the show and p much every new episode that comes out is by definition the new low point if you are looking for the point where things went wrong, I agree with the common thesis that it's that infamous Skinner episode, that's when they started loving with characters in a way that kind of broke what makes the show work
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I don't hate the Skinner episode because it still has some funny jokes and it's pretty aware of how absurd the entire concept is. Like, looking at it as a point where things start going downhill is fine but I think the episode itself is still okay.
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it's more that years ago people would act like the show immediately became poo poo after that episode. it was a gradual decline where each subsequent season had fewer and fewer good episodes. i think i stopped watching every week around 14 or 15.
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's more that years ago people would act like the show immediately became poo poo after that episode. it was a gradual decline where each subsequent season had fewer and fewer good episodes. i think i stopped watching every week around 14 or 15. Yea, seasons 10-12 have plenty of great episodes, but the decline became noticeable at that point.
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VJeff posted:I don't hate the Skinner episode because it still has some funny jokes and it's pretty aware of how absurd the entire concept is. yeah the episode itself is not bad, but thats the start of when they decided they could completely erase what they'd previously established as characters, which is how they ended up with poo poo like Homer becoming an rear end in a top hat who grew up in the 90's, doesn't give a poo poo about his family etc
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khwarezm posted:When I re-watched season 1 it was kind of a shock. When I was a kid I always disliked it because of lousy, wobbly animation and the fact that the character and jokes weren't quite there yet. But watching it again as an adult it was much more cutting, satirical and dark than I remembered. Just thinking of things like the way the RV guy exploits Homer's insecure sense of middle-class machoism to convince him to buy a terrible RV, or how Marge tries to get Lisa to bottle up her depression and plaster on a smile for the public, it really was so counter-cultural in a way that even two seasons later they mostly got rid of. Its not the Simpsons at its best but I can kind of see why it made such a splash and pushed the buttons of the George Bush's of this world and that was so important for setting the series apart at the time, there just wasn't anything like it. There was a very touching redemption for Marge in the episode you mentioned where she sees people taking advantage of Lisa's niceness, does a screaming u-turn and gives her a heart to heart where she tells her it's okay to be sad and that when she'll do the smiling for both of them when it happens. It was really very sweet
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54 40 or gently caress posted:There was a very touching redemption for Marge in the episode you mentioned where she sees people taking advantage of Lisa's niceness, does a screaming u-turn and gives her a heart to heart where she tells her it's okay to be sad and that when she'll do the smiling for both of them when it happens. It was really very sweet That's true, but it still felt unique and incisive for the time, the whole idea of loudly shouting 'gently caress society's expectations! gently caress being happy!' wasn't usually seen in contemporary family values shows.
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54 40 or gently caress posted:There was a very touching redemption for Marge in the episode you mentioned where she sees people taking advantage of Lisa's niceness, does a screaming u-turn and gives her a heart to heart where she tells her it's okay to be sad and that when she'll do the smiling for both of them when it happens. It was really very sweet The sweet part was how that talk made Lisa smile sincerely.
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***CONTROVERSIAL OPINION*** I actually like the Homer invented grunge episode, it has a lot of good jokes and idgaf about continuity and the parody of Glycerine is great
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It's been said in this thread or one of the previous ones, an episode like Last Exit to Springfield [the plant protest / DENTAL PLAN episode] would never, ever happen again modern simpsons would make a big joke out of it, homer stupid, lisa whiny, guest star <current cultural icon> as the scab who takes Homer's job e. and the scab is literally that celebrity, not just the voice. their reasoning for applying to the plant is <humorous reference to their career>
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Quote-Unquote posted:***CONTROVERSIAL OPINION*** it's bad sorry.
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Code Jockey posted:e. and the scab is literally that celebrity, not just the voice. their reasoning for applying to the plant is <humorous reference to their career> They apply because Burns needs them for the plant hockey team. This will not at all be another rehash of old episodes, like going back to Camp Krusty. Coincidentally, the episode will be titled Homer on the Ice
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VJeff posted:I don't hate the Skinner episode because it still has some funny jokes and it's pretty aware of how absurd the entire concept is.
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There's some great episodes in season 9 and some major stinkers. It really is the indicator of how the direction. On one hand you have he episodes where Lisa thinks she's getting dumber, the movementarians, where homer climbs the mountains but then there's the ones with the trillion dollar bill, Moes girlfriend, the funzo Christmas one with sucked, Halloween one sucked etc
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I'm watching some random season 12 episodes because I hate myself and they're bad. bad bad bad... A lot of them suffer from the tertiary characters just hanging out with The Simpsons for good drat reason at all. The whole town is hanging out at a free YMCA weekend-thing, Homer breaks his leg, and then the whole town is having fun outside of his window. It's really weird.
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I just remembered that stupid episode where Bart has to go back to 3rd grade and Lisa gets skipped ahead to 3rd grade, and they wind up on a field trip to the governor's office and bart changed the design for their state flag to be about farting and the governor started wailing out loud, but I geuss they didn't record enough of Tress MacNeille doing the scream beacuse they repeated the same scream clip quite noticeably a few times in a row and it was super obvious and hokey.
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They only paid her to scream it once, then doubled it on the soundtrack. Cheap bastards.
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54 40 or gently caress posted:There's some great episodes in season 9 and some major stinkers. It really is the indicator of how the direction. On one hand you have he episodes where Lisa thinks she's getting dumber, the movementarians, where homer climbs the mountains but then there's the ones with the trillion dollar bill, Moes girlfriend, the funzo Christmas one with sucked, Halloween one sucked etc Personally I think 'Simpson Tide' was the first episode I thought was straight up bad. I think its worse than Principle and the Pauper because, unlike that episode, its just really loving boring and is falling into lazy tropes that really damaged the show as it went on like 'Homer gets a wacky new job for one episode!' or 'one of the other family members has a dull and unfunny B-plot based around a fad' and 'A ton of recognizable supporting characters like Barney and Moe are in this unlikely situation even though it makes no sense and is badly justified since we can't really be bothered to come up with funny one-shot characters like we used to'. At least the Moe's girlfriend episode gave Moe something to do and developed his character a bit, as well as his relationship with Homer, Simpson Tide just feels vapid and pointless and the jokes weren't even that good (except the one where the Soviet Union comes back from the dead) and started to feel more zany and wacky in a really forced way.
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Last Chance posted:I just watched Season 12, Episode 17: Simpsons Safari Even that one has one of my favorite Homer line deliveries ever, when they get trapped in the giant man eating flower and Homer just pushes it open and Lisa asks him how he did it, and he just replies "It's a flower" in the most condescending way.
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