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DaveWoo posted:Aww, Mikey thinks he knows stuff, that's adorable. Like, say, his MS stricken nephew?
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Fulchrum posted:Like, say, his MS stricken nephew? He likes his family as a reflection of himself.
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Haha love the cop's impotent comment to the protesters at the end. "You want another day like Saturday don't you." Motherfucker they're not the ones who showed up with 2 guns.
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PhazonLink posted:what the over-under Donnie doesn't even know what's happening on monday? Or that he goes blind staring at the drat thing like an idiot. I mean, they'll try to warn him, but will he listen? Edit: lol 
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Uglycat posted:Pence has the opportunity to approach the tortilla caucus, the tuesday group, every GOP house and senate member that /isn't/ deeply aligned with the leadership, AND all of the dems. He can arrange to pull article 25, appoint a neutral party that satisfies enough people in the house and senate as his veep, and resign. That appointed neutral party can then manage the presidency while the House decides upon a process to appoint a new Speaker of the House, with the understanding that when the neutral party president is satisfied, he will resign and the new speaker will ascend. Getting the stink of scandal and the misdemeanor of nazi sympathy as far from the Office of the President as possible. Sets pence up to be a hero, with very little work from him (much more fun than 6 years as POTUS). Throws the GOP leadership under the bus, but puts country over party (and the best opportunity for the GOP to survive /as/ a party, or - if not - for the congressmen that turn to hope for a career after this shakes out). The 25th Amendment temporarily transfers power from the President to the Vice President. In order to get the authority back, the President sends a letter to Congress saying he is once capable to be President. The Cabinet can send another letter to Congress disputing the President's letter, Congress then votes and requires a 2/3 majority to rule the President is still unfit for Office. The President can then send a new letter as he wishes and the process repeats. The only way to remove the President from office permanently is through Impeachment, his resignation, losing in 2020, or being term limited out in 2024. Until that time, even with a successful use of the 25th Amendment by the VP, Trump will remain President and Pence would remain as VP. Gyges fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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The funny thing about confederate memorial is....there are so many of them. But there are barely any - if any - memorials for the Union. Not any union generals have statues in my state - there's probably very few of them. Lincoln may have a memorial in DC and a couple of other places. But people going on about history are ignoring that and I don't know why nobody brings that up as a talking point. But I will say this... America has a very odd civil war in many ways in that it revolved around part of our country seeking independence and formation of a new state. These kind of civil wars aren't strange ocurrances but during the time period the American Civil War occured there were many other civil wars across the young democracies of the America's. Mostly they involved battles between two different factions of a relatively young growing Democracy: usually a Liberal Party and a Conservative party. The winning faction ultimately was the one that decided the rules of the country and how the constitution was written. This happened in Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Colombia, Mexico any many other nations of the America's all during the 1800s. America's Civil War ended in 4 years - shorter than most civil wars. But after the war - with the assassination of Lincoln it seems to me that the civil conflict never really ended; it went underground - and was waged using propaganda and revisionism as well as organized guerrila violence against the perceived victors of the war. Blacks and Northerners. And that is a war that had never ended but has continued to be waged by groups for decades. I think that speaking this unspoken truth is a big part of actually putting a end to this conflict.
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DaveWoo posted:Aww, Mikey thinks he knows stuff, that's adorable. I dunno, I like the idea of Trump firing Jared and then demanding that Ivanka divorce him.
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Captain Morose posted:Or that he goes blind staring at the drat thing like an idiot. I mean, they'll try to warn him, but will he listen? Also what's the over-under regressive fundies(yes i know, redundant) are saying this is Jeeazus's blessing even though science can predict these event centuries in advance.
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DaveWoo posted:Aww, Mikey thinks he knows stuff, that's adorable. Mike Cernovich having a line to the whitehouse would be like the 576th least surprising thing of the last six months.
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JailTrump posted:The funny thing about confederate memorial is....there are so many of them. But there are barely any - if any - memorials for the Union. Not any union generals have statues in my state - there's probably very few of them. Lincoln may have a memorial in DC and a couple of other places. But people going on about history are ignoring that and I don't know why nobody brings that up as a talking point. But I will say this... Parts of this thesis are covered at length in the fascinating book: Confederates in the Attic, by Tony Horowitz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederates_in_the_Attic).
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Covok posted:Hey, all I'm saying is New York and the Yankees are better than Boston and the Redsoxs. I mean, why hate a man for speaking the truth? Red Sox 3 title in this century and currently in first place. Yankees 0 titles and currently in 2nd place.
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Hollismason posted:It's such a bizarre statement from that officer I work closely with police officers. That statement is totally predictable.
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Hollismason posted:It's such a bizarre statement from that officer Look, the true tragedy of Saturday was how mean the anti-nazis were to the Nazis, which is why everything is their fault. If only they hadn't provoked the Nazis by existing everything would have been fine.
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JailTrump posted:The funny thing about confederate memorial is....there are so many of them. But there are barely any - if any - memorials for the Union. Not any union generals have statues in my state - there's probably very few of them. Lincoln may have a memorial in DC and a couple of other places. But people going on about history are ignoring that and I don't know why nobody brings that up as a talking point. But I will say this... We have a winner folks. Time to pack it up and go home.
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Fulchrum posted:Has there been any form of polling on a breakdown of attitudes towards Antifa and how they relate to the importance of economic reform, or is that just more broke brain behavior from the people in the both sides are just as bad thread? The right needs organizations upon which they can condemn and delegitimize dissenters. My parents mentioned Muslim Brotherhood to me like 8 months ago and I did a loving Scooby Doo jowl-wobbling double-take so hard I almost fell out of my chair. Who the gently caress even talks about Muslim Brotherhood other than Hannity? Now they have Antifa upon whom to blame all their dissent--without even the slightest self-awareness that they are accepting their own fascism.
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Thank you for mentioning that, because even though I had read the text of the 25th Amendment, I had never even noticed/thought about that detail, that the Vice-President doesn't become President, he just becomes the Acting President. Which means that another Vice-President is never appointed? From the text, it looks like that is the case.
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Hollismason posted:It's such a bizarre statement from that officer Its only bizarre if you forget cops tend to have a highly conservative, white dude culture
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glowing-fish posted:Thank you for mentioning that, because even though I had read the text of the 25th Amendment, I had never even noticed/thought about that detail, that the Vice-President doesn't become President, he just becomes the Acting President. Nobody goddamn knows because nobody writing that poo poo ever thought we'd be this insane. Ultimately the remedy for Trump was that The People were never supposed to fall for such a transparent charlatan in the first place, because there's only so far you can go in protecting your democracy before it becomes vulnerable to all kinds of other bullshit. If enough of the population is crazy enough to look at Trump's Primary and then Presidential campaign and then say "Yes, I either actively want or can tolerate this man in the White House" that he wins, well, I'm not convinced any Constitution can provide an effective remedy.
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Kilometers Davis posted:I'm glad everyone knows how absolutely top notch the Gettysburg drive through/cd is. It hits you real loving hard. I did it about two years ago and I still remember the way it all made me feel. It's pure history. There's no bullshitting and the theatrics of it are just the right level of "exciting" needed for emotional impact. I've seen on Youtube they do unit walks now. They pick a unit, have their reenactors dress up as that unit and lead people through their unit's positions and movements on the field. They also had some commemoration a few years back where reenactors of the union artillery unit that was first on the field set up all their guns in the same spot and opened up a barrage....including firing one cannon that had actually been there and used by the actual unit during the battle
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Uglycat posted:Pence has the opportunity to approach the tortilla caucus, the tuesday group, every GOP house and senate member that /isn't/ deeply aligned with the leadership, AND all of the dems. He can arrange to pull article 25, appoint a neutral party that satisfies enough people in the house and senate as his veep, and resign. That appointed neutral party can then manage the presidency while the House decides upon a process to appoint a new Speaker of the House, with the understanding that when the neutral party president is satisfied, he will resign and the new speaker will ascend. Getting the stink of scandal and the misdemeanor of nazi sympathy as far from the Office of the President as possible. Sets pence up to be a hero, with very little work from him (much more fun than 6 years as POTUS). Throws the GOP leadership under the bus, but puts country over party (and the best opportunity for the GOP to survive /as/ a party, or - if not - for the congressmen that turn to hope for a career after this shakes out). This would be great if we lived Plato's republic, but that poo poo will never happen They'll just have Pence takeover, pretend nothing happened, and hope they can supress they're way through 2018
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glowing-fish posted:Thank you for mentioning that, because even though I had read the text of the 25th Amendment, I had never even noticed/thought about that detail, that the Vice-President doesn't become President, he just becomes the Acting President. The 25th Amendment is specifically set up to codify how succession works following the removal of the President from office for whatever reason. It also lays out how the powers of the Presidency can be temporarily exercised by someone other than the President due to temporary incapacitation. The text of Article II, Section 1, Clause 6 is vague enough that several times in our history we have run into issues. Specifically with regard to who gets to decide when the President is incapacitated, whether the VP becomes the actual President or just Acting President, and how the position of VP is filled if vacated. The temporary incapacitation portion is specifically set up to be temporary so that there is a mechanism for someone to officially take control if the President is incapacitated but not dead, impeached or having resigned. It's, more or less, a Wilson rule and is written so that VPs and the cabinet can't have a soft coup but if the President, for example, has a stroke someone is in charge. Since the VP is Acting President, there is no empty position of either President nor Vice President and as such there is no vacancy to fill.
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EnergizerFellow posted:We have a winner folks. Time to pack it up and go home. Read "Race and Reunion" by David Blight. At the end of the war both sides had to figure out a way to getv along together and so most folks just chose to willfully forget what the war had been about in the name of getting along. Thus spring things like the Lost Cause ideology which haunts us to this day.
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Mister Adequate posted:Ultimately the remedy for Trump was that The People were never supposed to fall for such a transparent charlatan in the first place, because there's only so far you can go in protecting your democracy before it becomes vulnerable to all kinds of other bullshit. If enough of the population is crazy enough to look at Trump's Primary and then Presidential campaign and then say "Yes, I either actively want or can tolerate this man in the White House" that he wins, well, I'm not convinced any Constitution can provide an effective remedy. There aren't very many good options for dealing with a Trump presidency cleanly. He can resign or ride out his term, but anything else is going to lead to some weird places. Even a successful impeachment and conviction would be unprecedented. We hosed up just by getting this far.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:CNN's main page is awesome right now. Giant "Counterprotest dwarfs free-speech rally" with a photo of like 5,000 people surrounding a tiny band stand. I wish they'd stop calling them "free-speech rallies". We all know the only reason the Nazis want to call it that is so they can be fuckers in public. If they had majority power you know they'd clamp down on free speech as fast as they could
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Mister Adequate posted:Nobody goddamn knows because nobody writing that poo poo ever thought we'd be this insane. Ultimately the remedy for Trump was that The People were never supposed to fall for such a transparent charlatan in the first place, because there's only so far you can go in protecting your democracy before it becomes vulnerable to all kinds of other bullshit. If enough of the population is crazy enough to look at Trump's Primary and then Presidential campaign and then say "Yes, I either actively want or can tolerate this man in the White House" that he wins, well, I'm not convinced any Constitution can provide an effective remedy. The existing Constitutional remedy for Trump becoming President is Impeachment. The other existing remedy, the Electoral College, has never worked for anything but since it's only come up 5 times total we haven't gotten around to axing it. Also the 25th Amendment is from the 1960s. We'd already had incompetent assholes and corrupt assholes as President, maybe not to the degree of Trump, but certainly the idea of a Trump was conceivable.
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Why aren't we taking these confederates seriously? It was 95 degrees here today with 90% humidity. Push El Burrito fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Paradoxish posted:There aren't very many good options for dealing with a Trump presidency cleanly. He can resign or ride out his term, but anything else is going to lead to some weird places. Even a successful impeachment and conviction would be unprecedented. We hosed up just by getting this far. Considering Trump is in actual violation of probably all three listed reasons for impeachment, the success wouldn't be too out there. In the list of Johnson, Clinton, Nixon, and Trump, Donny certainly wouldn't be the one that future historians look at while Sesame Street's song plays in their heads.
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LeeMajors posted:The right needs organizations upon which they can condemn and delegitimize dissenters. I meant people in this thread saying Liberals hate Antifa and just can't wait to sell them out to Republicans, because they're evil meanie liberals.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:gently caress the Yankees, gently caress the Sox, and gently caress the Blue Jays. Go Tigers. Obvious troll. Even Detroit doesn't like the Tigers
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