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GRRM kind of fucks himself over in not making a clear outline and following it. He writes on a chapter by chapter basis and the story evolves and changes from there. Which is why I think, even with the ending given to the showrunners, it's more likely to be way different in the books by virtue of how GRRM is always altering poo poo as he goes.
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basic hitler posted:I'm a nerd who helps keep chatacters together and plot points fresh and all that for my sisters and parents and a few less nerdy friends. I whine a lot on here but i would rather let people in real life enjoy their titty dragons, so i keep my discontentment to myself. They may need help keeping it all together but my small sample size is all very loving unhappy at how dumb and brainless the show has become. Yeah people like the action scenes but this season's pacing has done nothing but seriously anger nearly everyone i know who watches this show, the dialogue has been a recurring joke since season 5 at least. All the reviews of the show are loving the new direction and as I say people here are also loving it. I've not heard anything negative. It's a shame, it deserves that. Especially considering how Walking Dead has drawn a lot of criticism in the last seasons and I'd say this is doing the same sort of stupid lazy storytelling.
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Aug 20, 2017 20:12
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just think of all the tragic loss of tits in this show Margaery Ros That Sand Snakes Chick who tortured Bronn Shae
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Aug 20, 2017 20:15
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Taear posted:All the reviews of the show are loving the new direction and as I say people here are also loving it. I've not heard anything negative. I feel like trusting early reviews as a barometer of quality and overall reception is a bad idea. Do critics get early screenings? I don't pay attention to that stuff because early reviews are consistently wrong in hindsight. We will probably have to wait for series end and retrospectives to come out before the critical world really starts to sour on these episodes.
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I think HBO stopped giving reviewers screeners for GoT after the first four episodes of season 5 (or was it 6?) leaked before the premiere.
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Shneak posted:
per spoilers the only big kill in the season finale is Littlefinger though several secondary characters are left in a Bad Spot when viseryon brings down the Wall, some of whom will presumably die in the season 8 premier
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Aug 20, 2017 20:34
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So currently nobody is running Dorne or the Riverlands?
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Aug 20, 2017 20:46
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Bates posted:So currently nobody is running Dorne or the Riverlands? Nymeria run
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Aug 20, 2017 20:49
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It's already established that the death of nobles sometimes makes entire armies evaporate so maybe dorne just dissolved, who knows.
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Bates posted:So currently nobody is running Dorne or the Riverlands? Ser Gerold Dayne is running Dorne in my head cannon and no one can tell me otherwise.
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Aug 20, 2017 20:57
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GaussianCopula posted:AFFC and ADWD are great books and I will fight everyone who disagrees. isn't the third point that Shireen gets sacrificed?
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mastershakeman posted:isn't the third point that Shireen gets sacrificed? You are right, that was one of the 3 (Jon is really not that shocking I guess) but the last is "from the very end" http://ew.com/article/2016/05/24/george-rr-martin-3-twists-game-thrones/
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Bates posted:So currently nobody is running Dorne or the Riverlands? This reminds me, is Dorne no longer supporting Dany or something? It's not like their head castle was wiped out like with higharden, all that happened was their leaders (lol at ellaria sand, a random mistress of the king's brother, becoming the leader of dorne) were captured. Why does this mean Dorne is out of the picture, does the kingdom no longer hate the lannisters or something? Why isn't whoever is next in line supporting dany with troops to attack kings landing? The show implies that Ellaria and the sand snakes getting captured completely removed Dorne from the picture for some reason(?) I guess you could assume that caused them to get locked into a civil war or something but the show never bothers to even have a single line of dialogue stating such. e: I suspect in the books Shireen is going to get sacrificed in order to revive Jon. I'm not surprised the show wouldn't want to do that since they wouldn't want their marketable fan favorite character's continued existence to come at the cost of burning a little girl. The flip side of doing something like that is it gives an actual cost to jon's death and revival and inherently shows why he wouldn't just be revived constantly every time he dies, an issue the show was forced to deal with by having Jon ask to not be brought back instead. e2: I really hate DwD for having it's climax basically cut from the book. Imagine reading clash of kings except the blackwater battle result is left ambigious and is pushed into storm of swords. So It Goes fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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shireen being sacrificed was dumb i wonder if it'll be as dumb in the books. i guess we'll never know.
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So It Goes posted:This reminds me, is Dorne no longer supporting Dany or something? It's not like their head castle was wiped out like with higharden, all that happened was their leaders (lol at ellaria sand, a random mistress of the king's brother, becoming the leader of dorne) were captured. Why does this mean Dorne is out of the picture, does the kingdom no longer hate the lannisters or something? Why isn't whoever is next in line supporting dany with troops to attack kings landing? The show implies that Ellaria and the sand snakes getting captured completely removed Dorne from the picture for some reason(?) I guess you could assume that caused them to get locked into a civil war or something but the show never bothers to even have a single line of dialogue stating such. castles, cities and countries are all the same dorne does not exist outside of the alhambra set where all of the dorne scenes were shot. the dornish army Dany wanted was those 4-5 guards who were there those guys are still down, it's just that nobody has come by to tell them what's up
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Somebody mentioned Kevan and that reminded me, what happened to him in the show? Did he go back to run Casterly Rock or did they show Varys killing him? I don't think the latter, Varys was on the boat to Essos with Tyrion in the wine crate. I honestly do not recall. And if he was supposed to be at the Rock.. uh...
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Propaganda Machine posted:Somebody mentioned Kevan and that reminded me, what happened to him in the show? Did he go back to run Casterly Rock or did they show Varys killing him? I don't think the latter, Varys was on the boat to Essos with Tyrion in the wine crate. I honestly do not recall. He was at the Sept.
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Wow, savage. And now we're back with the Sept incident being consequence-free. Tyrion is kinslayer, but not Cersei? Okay.
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Propaganda Machine posted:Wow, savage. Sept was officially an accident. Whatever power keeps Cersei on the thrones probably also enforces this narrative.
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:Sept was officially an accident. Whatever power keeps Cersei on the thrones probably also enforces this narrative. They literally showed The Mountain going around killing people who spoke up against her, so yes.
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etalian posted:just think of all the tragic loss of tits in this show TYENE IS ALIVE. BRONN WILL SAVE HER AND THEY WILL RIDE OFF IN TO THE SUNSET TOGETHER. *runs off crying*
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Groovelord Neato posted:shireen being sacrificed was dumb i wonder if it'll be as dumb in the books. ive thought for awhile that mel sacrifices shireen to revive jon and tells selsye its to help stannis. not sure what happens with the battle of winterfell, but stannis comes back and kills selsye over the sacrifice and then takes the black. Ends up the 1000th lord commander. Not sure what happens with mel.
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WampaLord posted:They literally showed The Mountain going around killing people who spoke up against her, so yes. This is good storytelling and I feel pretty dumb now, but it's just sad that subtle, decent stuff like this gets lost in the schlock. Everything is so overwrought and stupid that I don't even pay attention to detail anymore.
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Tenzarin posted:Stannis is coming back? i think they're talking book poo poo jon is still dead for book readers 
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Constant posted:i think they're talking
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Aug 21, 2017 00:14
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anybody got the spoilers for this episode
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Aug 21, 2017 00:20
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Phi230 posted:anybody got the spoilers for this episode Yeah.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Yeah. care 2 share?
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Phi230 posted:care 2 share? Littlefinger dies, wall comes down, Cersei is a oval office, Jaime gets over her whole deal, Mountain and Hound make eye contact. Also boat sex and R+L wedding
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Has it been confirmed that Season 8 is gonna be on 2019 or is it still unclear?
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Propaganda Machine posted:Littlefinger dies, wall comes down, Cersei is a oval office, Jaime gets over her whole deal, Mountain and Hound make eye contact. oh word
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Propaganda Machine posted:Mountain and Hound make eye contact. i-it's not like I like you gregor-san 
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radlum posted:Has it been confirmed that Season 8 is gonna be on 2019 or is it still unclear? No one knows yet.
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Aug 21, 2017 00:59
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If "winters only happen because of the WWs" isn't true, it should be. It makes far too much sense.
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Propaganda Machine posted:Littlefinger dies, wall comes down, Cersei is a oval office, Jaime gets over her whole deal, Mountain and Hound make eye contact. Isn't that next week?
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Phi230 posted:care 2 share? I wasn't sure if you were serious. Thoros of Myr and all the redshirts on the expedition die, the Night King kills one of Dany's dragons with an ice javelin, there's the worst case of teleportation in the series yet, dissatisfied Sam steals books and flees the Citadel, Sansa finds Arya's faces, and the Night King raises the dead dragon to serve him.
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The whole situation in the north seems like it will go drastically differently than the show. Ramsay isn't some stache twirling super villain in the books and Stannis isn't incompetent enough to march his army right into a huge enemy army.
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How did she know where to fly north to find them anyway? How many frozen lakes could even be above the wall.
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Clearly, Gendry included coordinates in his letter for her to punch into Drogon's GPS.
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