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Madurai: Jun 26, 2012

Mr. Nice! posted:

Thanks for the McNally.

A lot of times ships won't have bridgewing lookouts assigned because there are 4-6 people on watch in the pilothouse anyways that are supposed to be looking out. Bringwing lookouts are only usually up during evolutions or any low vis situation.

Wat

How long has this been a thing?

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# ? May 13, 2024 04:29

Elendil004: Mar 22, 2003; The prognosis
is not good.

Mr. Nice! posted:

Thanks for the McNally.

A lot of times ships won't have bridgewing lookouts assigned because there are 4-6 people on watch in the pilothouse anyways that are supposed to be looking out. Bringwing lookouts are only usually up during evolutions or any low vis situation.

No radar is loving dumb.

We always had a nonrate on lookout watch and I always just assumed the navy regs were stricter than the coast guards.

# ? Aug 20, 2017 22:49

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

It depends on the ship really. Every ship in the Navy is going to have a dedicated aft lookout. Larger ships like big deck amphibs and carriers will have multiple dedicated lookouts aft, forward, and on all sides. For CRUDES ships its not unheard of to have dedicated lookouts, but it varies depending on the situation and the captain's comfort level. All of that is with respect to normal visibility. All ships should be posting dedicated lookouts in low vis situations.

# ? Aug 20, 2017 23:31

Thronde: Aug 4, 2012; Fun Shoe

John S. McCain just had a collision pulling in to Singapore.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 00:45

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

I'm seeing it reported she was struck on the port side.

Hope it's not bad

# ? Aug 21, 2017 00:48

Stultus Maximus: Dec 21, 2009; USPOL May

Two collisions in DESRON 15 this summer. I wonder if any admirals are getting attention for optempo and training now?

# ? Aug 21, 2017 00:53

Elendil004: Mar 22, 2003; The prognosis
is not good.

Well I guess between the port side of the Fitz and the starboard side of the Mccain you can make 1 full ship.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 00:54

Seqenenra: Oct 11, 2005; Secret

TVS, you did great. Because of you and the people you trained, you probably saved the ship.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 01:06

Ceric: Aug 17, 2012

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...source=facebook

WTF is going on in Seventh Fleet

# ? Aug 21, 2017 01:58

Laranzu: Jan 18, 2002

What is the SAR effort for if they haven't said anything about overboards?

lovely press release that just causes more confusion and panic.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:08

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Jesus loving Christ. I'm so glad that I'm rolling ashore for a few years on Friday. It's about to get ridiculous out here.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:08

Boon: Jun 21, 2005; by R. Guyovich

For fucks sake. 7th fleet is broke.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:11

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

quote:

The merchant vessel, ALNIC MC, is a 30,000+ ton oil/chemical tanker built in 2007. It's 600 feet long and 105 feet wide and sails under the Liberian flag. Its owner according to searches is Energetic Tank Inc. and its operator is Stealth Maritime Corporation S.A.

In all seriousness, I really hope this won't result in more deaths. ffs.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:13

LordNad: Nov 18, 2002; HEY BAD GUYS, THIS IS THE VICE PRESIDENT, PLEASE DON'T KILL HIM!

mlmp08 posted:

In all seriousness, I really hope this won't result in more deaths. ffs.

Preliminary report is 5 minor injuries and the flooding is nowhere near as serious as Fitz. Hoping this remains true.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:16

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

ManMythLegend posted:

Jesus loving Christ. I'm so glad that I'm rolling ashore for a few years on Friday. It's about to get ridiculous out here.

If you need a shorebased cabin boy I'm off orders soon. My resume includes barista, bar tending and perfect driving record. Also good with kids.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:20

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

LingcodKilla posted:

If you need a shorebased cabin boy I'm off orders soon. My resume includes barista, bar tending and perfect driving record. Also good with kids.

I'm going to file this away for later just in case.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:32

Apraxin: Feb 22, 2006; General-Admiral

LordNad posted:

Preliminary report is 5 minor injuries and the flooding is nowhere near as serious as Fitz. Hoping this remains true.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/899443907859185664

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:44

Elendil004: Mar 22, 2003; The prognosis
is not good.

I also think they call it search and rescue until they have full accountability because there's no way to know if they're overboard or trapped inside, etc.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:48

ManMythLegend: Aug 18, 2003; I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Apraxin posted:

https://twitter.com/AP/status/899443907859185664

gently caress.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:49

Mr. Bad Guy: Jun 28, 2006

God dammit.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:50

LordNad: Nov 18, 2002; HEY BAD GUYS, THIS IS THE VICE PRESIDENT, PLEASE DON'T KILL HIM!

I'm going to hope they are found alive.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 02:52

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

It's still really early...

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:00

Apraxin: Feb 22, 2006; General-Admiral

This is the tanker:
https://twitter.com/StratSentinel/status/899417961055879169/photo/1It was apparently unloaded, so from first reports this could be a near-exact repeat of the Fitzgerald, with the bulb on the merchie punching through the hull.

edit: whoops, had like four current event threads open, didn't realize I was posting in the Navy one, sorry guys

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:03

Mr. Bad Guy: Jun 28, 2006

LordNad posted:

I'm going to hope they are found alive.

Not to be... I don't know, pessimistic, but I remember be confused at how 7 sailors could be missing on the Fitz just from a collision, then being horrified when we found out it was because they were still on the ship, in the flooded birthing. I really really loving hope that this isn't the case again, but like Apraxin said, this is looking like a near-exact repeat.

Kind of sick to my stomach.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:08

Thronde: Aug 4, 2012; Fun Shoe

God dammit.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:20

maffew buildings: Apr 29, 2009; too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

goddammit gently caress

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:20

Serjeant Buzfuz: Dec 5, 2009

I'm so loving angry, gently caress.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:38

Sir Lucius: Aug 3, 2003

It's pretty sad that sailors have to die before we can even talk about getting rid of horrible traditions that deprive sleep.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:43

TheQuietWilds: Sep 8, 2009

If you're still in, may I recommend this classic instructional: https://www.amazon.com/Avoid-Huge-Ships-John-Trimmer/dp/0870334336

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:44

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

TheQuietWilds posted:

If you're still in, may I recommend this classic instructional: https://www.amazon.com/Avoid-Huge-Ships-John-Trimmer/dp/0870334336

I don't feel this is very helpful right now.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:47

LordNad: Nov 18, 2002; HEY BAD GUYS, THIS IS THE VICE PRESIDENT, PLEASE DON'T KILL HIM!

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

Not to be... I don't know, pessimistic, but I remember be confused at how 7 sailors could be missing on the Fitz just from a collision, then being horrified when we found out it was because they were still on the ship, in the flooded birthing. I really really loving hope that this isn't the case again, but like Apraxin said, this is looking like a near-exact repeat.

Kind of sick to my stomach.

I know this rationally but I would rather hope we didn't lose 10 more people. I just can't fathom how the this could happen again within 3 loving months to the same loving squadron no less.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:47

Elendil004: Mar 22, 2003; The prognosis
is not good.

The president stepping in to offer wise words in this hour. "That's too bad"

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:49

Flikken: Oct 23, 2009; 10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Elendil004 posted:

The president stepping in to offer wise words in this hour. "That's too bad"

He likes ships that don't run into other ships.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 03:57

McNally: Sep 13, 2007; Ask me about Proposition 305

Do you like muskets?

The Valley Stared posted:

So had another admiral visit today. This is the like the 5th or 6th one we've had since the collision.

He kept asking at all hands call if anyone had any questions. Why the gently caress would we? The one question of "What's going to happen to the crew" he wasn't able to answer, so why the gently caress would he have anything else to ask him? As far as we're concerned, this is just another dog and pony show and we're sick of it.

The Chiefs apparently tore into him during his session with them. The reminded him that there are actual people that work on the drat ship and that they have families. I guess that made him think, because when he spoke with the officers, he made sure to mention that.

But then he asked about what the difference in readiness was between the Ronald Reagan Strike Group and West Coast ships. I said that they had a Training Phase and we didn't. He replied that that wasn't the issue, and then asked our NAV what affected readiness. NAV said Tools, Personnel, and Material. That apparently wasn't the answer and so he was asked again how we get ready to do the job if that makes sense. NAV replied that we get ready when we went out. We don't really train because we're always doing the job.

He said no, that we train all the time. That our Combat Systems folks ran drills and that's how they learned. That our ASW folks ran scenarios and trained off of Guam.

I don't know what fantasy world he lives in, but he doesn't live in the same world we do. We didn't train. We literally learned our jobs by doing all of that poo poo. Because we didn't have time for anything else with all the real world poo poo going on.

I'm bitter. The next time an Admiral comes on board and wants to make pretty speeches and doesn't have any answers, I'm going to lose it.

That said, I took the blood money and will be doing department head rides. Please pray for any future DIVOs I may have. because if they gently caress around on bridge watch, they will not be having a good day.

I wonder if that admiral wants to change his answer.

# ? Aug 21, 2017 05:23

vulturesrow: Sep 25, 2011; _{Always gotta pay it forward.}

McNally posted:

I wonder if that admiral wants to change his answer.

Nah standard play here is to double down on your previous answer. Oh, I'm sure they'll mandate an "operational pause" or other such nonsense. But they won't admit there are serious, systemic issues in the surface navy.

vulturesrow fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Aug 21, 2017

# ? Aug 21, 2017 05:44