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I'm doing a Malazan re read because I don't wanna finish FoL. Help I've become a Malazo junkie.
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Aug 20, 2017 23:21
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turboraton posted:I'm doing a Malazan re read because I don't wanna finish FoL. Help I've become a Malazo junkie. I've read it twice and audiobooked it once. Better each time. Still haven't read FoL yet though.
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Aug 21, 2017 07:02
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Hanging out for any new news. Looks like the nice ICE book has been pushed back to the end of the year.
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Aug 21, 2017 07:18
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NoNostalgia4Grover posted:Tool got TWO happy endings and I'm dreading Tool showing up in the unwritten Karsa trilogy for a 3rd happy ending. Speaking of which, how come his wife came back from the dead all of a sudden in the end? I'm assuming I missed something because to me that just came out of nowhere
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Aug 21, 2017 07:47
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I figure it was fate magic performed by the person that is Tool's sister [IRONY]who definitely isn't a mary sue character that also pops up everywhere & knows everybody, no way at all. [/IRONY] Only the Eel can stop that madness, but somehow the Eel has been missing for a week now, ever since that caravan of gourmet Seven Cities pastries was robbed. People like Beak and Trull and Gruntle had to die to give Tool & his family a 2nd happy ending. That's really why I dread anything regarding T'Ian Imass clans showing up in the future Karsa trilogy, Tool always seems to be involved in T'lan Imass drama. quantumfoam fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Aug 21, 2017 |
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Aug 21, 2017 14:23
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dishwasherlove posted:Hanging out for any new news. Looks like the nice ICE book has been pushed back to the end of the year. He's got a third sci-fi novel coming titled, "Rejoice, a knife to the heart." Not sure if it's another in the trek satire.
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Aug 21, 2017 17:47
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:He's got a third sci-fi novel coming titled, "Rejoice, a knife to the heart." Not sure if it's another in the trek satire. Sounds like Ericson is graduating to TNG trek satire. .....Stab me in the heart for recognizing that reference.
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Aug 21, 2017 18:12
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NoNostalgia4Grover posted:I figure it was fate magic performed by the person that is Tool's sister [IRONY]who definitely isn't a mary sue character that also pops up everywhere & knows everybody, no way at all. [/IRONY]
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Aug 21, 2017 21:04
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You may be right, that character is Gilligan-eque in their power to ruin things for other people, while suffering zero consquences. After all that character is functionally immortal thanks to magic Imass cave paintings, the only known living Imass BoneCaster (pre-end of Malazan series), a deadbeat mom multiple times over, Soletaken, and for someone banished by the Imass for killing her entire family minus Tool; can't seem to stay away from T'lan rituals. Back on track, I wish more there was more Emancipor Reese drugged-out-of-his-skull adventures in terror. Or some Eel short stories. Or possibly dare I hope, a Iskarel Pust penned "How I Became Shadow High Magus in 4 simple steps" novella. That last one really amuses me because the Spoiler blackout is really similar to shadows. Laugh damnit, laugh.
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Aug 21, 2017 23:00
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NoNostalgia4Grover posted:Iskarel Pust penned "How I Became Shadow High Magus in 4 simple steps" novella. Iskaral Pust's Super Secret Diary Do Not Read That Means You Shadowthrone
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Aug 21, 2017 23:51
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Captain_Person posted:Iskaral Pust's Super Secret Diary Do Not Read That Means You
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Aug 22, 2017 00:06
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Captain_Person posted:Iskaral Pust's Super Secret Diary Do Not Read That Means You Shadowthrone cptn_dr posted:Iskaral Pust's Super Secret Diary Do Not Read That Means You Correction. Iskaral Pust's Super Secret Diary Do Not Read That Means You
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Aug 22, 2017 04:20
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I'm half-way through GotM and really enjoying it but I still have no idea how the gently caress magic works. He describes things in a lot of different ways and while I feel like character arcs and world building have all been fairly cohesive for a first entry into the series, some of the words he uses to describe magic and types of magic are wonky as poo poo to me and I don't understand who has what powers and traveling between warrens and things like that. Does he explain them better ever?
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Aug 29, 2017 23:46
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Yes. Mystery always remains but your understanding will greatly increase. Even better if you have lightbulb moments where something clicks.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:09
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Hand Row posted:Yes. Mystery always remains but your understanding will greatly increase. Even better if you have lightbulb moments where something clicks. I'm only in book three, and this has been one of my favorite parts of Malazan, when you make a connection between stories, or figure out something about the way magic works or certain relationships, etc. It's awesome 
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Aug 30, 2017 11:00
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Papal Mainframe posted:I'm only in book three, and this has been one of my favorite parts of Malazan, when you make a connection between stories, or figure out something about the way magic works or certain relationships, etc. It's awesome Because of stuff like this I want to re-read the whole thing at some point in the not too distant future. I imagine there will also be a whole lot of connections in the other direction, ie "Oh, that thing was introduced here already? That's so cool and explains that thing five books in the future!" Speaking of, I've recently started on the first book in the Kharkanas trilogy and someone named T'Riss just showed up and I can't pinpoint why I feel like I recognize the name from the Malazan books. Was she even in there, or am I imagining things?
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Aug 30, 2017 11:23
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Man with Hat posted:
and yeah, I think I've mentioned in this thread before, but a re-read is so rewarding. I read the books as they came out and the last few really tried my patience, particularly because I forgot which of the 236 character stories were where at any given time. I don't really care about the exact mechanics of warrens or pinpointing exactly when Quick Ben reached a prestige class that allowed him to unlock the dual-casting talent tree, but being able to take in all the little details, running themes and foreshadowing make the sometimes disjointed-seeming narrative into a much richer and greater whole. Lunchmeat Larry fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 11:41
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Yeah, named in at least the Bonehunters and some dramatis personae - it's the Queen of Dreams. Oh, thanks!
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Aug 30, 2017 11:49
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Man with Hat posted:Because of stuff like this I want to re-read the whole thing at some point in the not too distant future. I imagine there will also be a whole lot of connections in the other direction, ie "Oh, that thing was introduced here already? That's so cool and explains that thing five books in the future!" When I finished the series a couple years ago, I took a 2 or 3 month break then read the whole drat thing again. There was so much I uncovered on the second read that it was almost better than the first, even with it all still so fresh in my mind.
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Aug 30, 2017 12:09
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Fenrir posted:When I finished the series a couple years ago, I took a 2 or 3 month break then read the whole drat thing again. There was so much I uncovered on the second read that it was almost better than the first, even with it all still so fresh in my mind. Neat. My plan right now is to read the Kharkanas books that are done and then restart at Garden of the Moon.
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Aug 30, 2017 12:32
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Man with Hat posted:Because of stuff like this I want to re-read the whole thing at some point in the not too distant future. I imagine there will also be a whole lot of connections in the other direction, ie "Oh, that thing was introduced here already? That's so cool and explains that thing five books in the future!" The cavalcade of "I know that person, what the gently caress are they doing here?" is one of the best bits of Kharkanas. Given that Blind Galan is relating the trilogy, it seems to me that T'Riss isn't the name the Tiste gave her at first, it's something that she was given later. A t' name for an amnesiac who (mid FoD spoilers) contributes so much to the Tiste schism is just too perfect, but it's not a construction that works in Tiste - or else they'd be calling themselves T'iste.
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Aug 30, 2017 13:38
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I'm really enjoying it. My only question is... what's a good source for spoiler-free character descriptions and recaps? I can see this being an issue because when I read series I usually break between books.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:15
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Good Will Hrunting posted:I'm really enjoying it. My only question is... what's a good source for spoiler-free character descriptions and recaps? I can see this being an issue because when I read series I usually break between books. Probably the Tor Malazan Reread of the Fallen, which includes a spoilers-free recap of chapters for each book.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:44
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Don't know if this is covered anywhere in there, but, in Midnight Tides, there's a battle scene described in retrospect, between the Letherii and one of the tribes they subjugated. The guy who masterminded it is now a broken down drunk. Does anyone remember roughly where this happens in the book? I skimmed through a couple of times but couldn't find the relevant passage.
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Aug 31, 2017 08:55
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Sounds like Hull's backstory, should be pretty early on. Wouldn't use the word "masterminded", though.
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Aug 31, 2017 12:06
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anilEhilated posted:Sounds like Hull's backstory, should be pretty early on. Wouldn't use the word "masterminded", though. Nah, it's not Hull's. It's some other dude who came up with a clever strategy to wrongfoot the Lether army, and won a great victory. But, the Lether won the trade war or something, and the tribe was left destitute.
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Aug 31, 2017 12:45
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You might be thinking of the Trell warchef Trynigarr and mixing him up with the Tarhenal that got drunk and sold his stuff for more. Can't remember his name.
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Aug 31, 2017 13:16
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Snowman_McK posted:Nah, it's not Hull's. It's some other dude who came up with a clever strategy to wrongfoot the Lether army, and won a great victory. But, the Lether won the trade war or something, and the tribe was left destitute. I think it went: Letheri trade war bankrupted the blueroses, letheri took annual dettachments of bluerose calvary as tribute in lieu of debt payment, bluerose calvary trained the letheri army in utterly retarded stirrup placement as a secret revenge.
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Aug 31, 2017 14:15
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NoNostalgia4Grover posted:I think it went: Letheri trade war bankrupted the blueroses, letheri took annual dettachments of bluerose calvary as tribute in lieu of debt payment, That sounds like something different but it's still funny as hell
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Aug 31, 2017 15:06
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Man with Hat posted:That sounds like something different but it's still funny as hell It was the Malazan's commenting on it that really sealed the deal for me. They noticed (even the non-cavalry soldiers knew enough to know it was stupid), then didn't really say anything until they were helping to train the Lether army.
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Aug 31, 2017 21:57
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seaborgium posted:It was the Malazan's commenting on it that really sealed the deal for me. They noticed (even the non-cavalry soldiers knew enough to know it was stupid), then didn't really say anything until they were helping to train the Lether army. The stirrup stuff is doubly hilarious. Some theories in anthropology and history of technology say that as the development of massed cavalry was so dependent on the stirrup that we can credit the develop of knights and hence the entire system of feudalism to the introduction of the stirrup. Given how slapstick the books treat the Letheri stirrup, I think we can guess how Erikson feels about this theory.
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Aug 31, 2017 22:06
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Please tell me the last book is better than Dust of Dreams... I'm 250ish pages from finishing Dust of Dreams but it is an absolute chore to read. Every 2nd page is about different characters, every 3rd page is about characters you've never heard of and will never read about again. I've picked it up and put it down about 20 times diapermeat fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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Aug 31, 2017 22:10
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diapermeat posted:Please tell me the last book is better than Dust of Dreams... TCG is definitely a step up. It's not the best of the series, but it's decent. It's sort of a Breaking Bad situation - nobody's gonna call it a bad ending, but the finale isn't the bit you excitedly tell your mates about to get them into the series. That would be Gus Fring/Karsa Orlong. Edit: lol j/k it's Nefarious Bredd. gently caress I'm grinning like an idiot just thinking about it.
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Aug 31, 2017 23:23
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Strom Cuzewon posted:TCG is definitely a step up. It's not the best of the series, but it's decent. It's sort of a Breaking Bad situation - nobody's gonna call it a bad ending, but the finale isn't the bit you excitedly tell your mates about to get them into the series. That would be Gus Fring/Karsa Orlong. Nah, the massively fan servicey 200 page battle/fight scene is exactly how I'd pitch the series. It's a series that wants to tell a good story, and manages to balance that with giving the audience what they want. Deadhouse Gates as a whole is a better illustration, though. It's structured like one of those terrible licensed fantasy novels (battle scene, battle scene, fight scene, battle scene, fight scene) but written well enough to be a book you're not ashamed to read it as a grown up. It also has exactly the sort of heartbreaking ending that tons of grimdark fantasy is going for.
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Sep 1, 2017 02:42
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diapermeat posted:Please tell me the last book is better than Dust of Dreams... I felt the same way. Trust me, its worth it. I'm actually looking forward to DoD when i do a reread in a couple years.
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Sep 1, 2017 12:58
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Ynglaur posted:I felt the same way. Trust me, its worth it. I'm actually looking forward to DoD when i do a reread in a couple years. Doesn't the big showdown in DoD start in the last 100 pages or so?
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Sep 1, 2017 14:04
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Yeah, named in at least the Bonehunters and some dramatis personae - it's the Queen of Dreams. I listened to the last three on audio book during a road trip, I've never been able to make it past finishing bonehunters on a reread. I know I missed a lot and its all a blur.
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Sep 1, 2017 14:11
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Cardiac posted:Doesn't the big showdown in DoD start in the last 100 pages or so? Yeah but it is SO loving GOOD. It makes the entire slog worth it and then some.
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Sep 1, 2017 17:37
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Normally I would screech at people who say Malazan is worth suffering through all the boring words and thinking to get to the epic anime battles but in the case of Dust of Dreams I'll... give you that one
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Sep 1, 2017 18:03
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The books including Dreams felt way less of a slog on reread. I think probably because the first time I just wanted to know where it was all going, but the second time I could enjoy delving into the side stories.
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