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Whats the best book on English history, spanning from whenever up to at least the imperial era
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fridge corn posted:Whats the best book on English history, spanning from whenever up to at least the imperial era Britain Begins takes you from the ice age up to the Battle of Stamford Bridge and is an excellent read.
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Jul 4, 2017 15:12
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Visiting my relatives in Sweden; they really don't like the Romani. Any good books on the history of the romani in Europe?
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Jul 9, 2017 17:42
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a book on gypsies is not going to make people who have actually lived near or interacted with gypsies stop disliking gypsies. also showing up at someone's house and saying 'I heard you don't like gypsies so I bought you this book on gypsies' is remarkably poor tact
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Jul 9, 2017 21:43
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chernobyl kinsman posted:a book on gypsies is not going to make people who have actually lived near or interacted with gypsies stop disliking gypsies. Great stuff mate.
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Jul 9, 2017 21:49
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chernobyl kinsman posted:a book on gypsies is not going to make people who have actually lived near or interacted with gypsies stop disliking gypsies. Maybe he's interested in why they don't like the Rom and wants an unbiased look at a subject he doesn't know about. 
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Jul 9, 2017 23:25
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navyjack posted:Maybe he's interested in why they don't like the Rom and wants an unbiased look at a subject he doesn't know about. That's what I figured. I personally haven't found any good books on the topic, sadly.
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Jul 9, 2017 23:39
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navyjack posted:Maybe he's interested in why they don't like the Rom i'd consider asking Ras Het posted:Great stuff mate. i'm not wrong mate
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Jul 10, 2017 03:17
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chernobyl kinsman posted:a book on gypsies is not going to make people who have actually lived near or interacted with gypsies stop disliking gypsies. Poor tact about racism, lol.
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Jul 10, 2017 06:06
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CharlestheHammer posted:Poor tact about racism, lol. gypsies aren't a race unto themselves, and anyway American ideas about race & racism translate poorly outside of the US chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jul 10, 2017 |
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Jul 10, 2017 14:47
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Yeah Europeans don't mind the Good Gypsies, it's only the Bad Gypsies who they hate. This is not racism somehow
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Jul 10, 2017 14:52
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Ras Het posted:Yeah Europeans don't mind the Good Gypsies, it's only the Bad Gypsies who they hate. This is not racism somehow sure you can call it that but e.g. half the English, without hyperbole, think the Welsh, Irish and French are all different races (& disparaging one of these groups is frequently called 'racism') so trying to interpret this through that American lens of race relations is distorting & oversimplifying chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jul 10, 2017 |
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Jul 10, 2017 15:06
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Minenfeld! posted:That's what I figured. gypos are illiterate which is probably why they haven't written any books about themselves
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Jul 10, 2017 15:17
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'Gypsy' is also often used to refer to Irish Travellers who are very definitely 'white' by American criteria
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Jul 10, 2017 15:24
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Looking for a fairly basic read on Chinese history, from ancient to modern.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:37
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chernobyl kinsman posted:'Gypsy' is also often used to refer to Irish Travellers who are very definitely 'white' by American criteria Romani are a distinct culture and just because English people who spend 80% of their day slurring racial epithets in a wetherspoons think Irish travellers are the same thing it does not make it so
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Jul 11, 2017 01:39
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:Has anyone read the Andrew Roberts biography of Napoleon? How is it? I liked it a lot, I knew next to nothing about Europe in the early 1800s so I learned a ton. Lots of maps and explainations of the political situations. Yeah, that retreat from Russia was insane. Surprised anyone lived. I picked it up after finishing the French Revolution series from Mike Duncan's Revolutions as I wanted to learn what happened after Napolean took over. Not gonna disagree that it was friendly to Napoleon (the author mentioned owning a lock of his hair), but still an excellent history and easy to read. I didn't know anything about the war in Spain, battle of the Pyramids, or all the battles against Austria so it was fascinating.
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Jul 11, 2017 05:41
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chernobyl kinsman posted:gypsies aren't a race unto themselves, and anyway American ideas about race & racism translate poorly outside of the US Lol the most American argument for why it's different.
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Jul 11, 2017 06:04
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:Looking for a fairly basic read on Chinese history, from ancient to modern. John Keay wrote a decent overview of all of Chinese history simply called China. If you don't mind on cutting out the Ancient part of that, then Jonathan Spence's The Search for Modern China is a classic and covers their history from 1600 to the Tiananmen Square protests.
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Jul 11, 2017 06:28
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Mantis42 posted:John Keay wrote a decent overview of all of Chinese history simply called China. Yeah, the Spence is pretty good. He has another good one called The Gate of Heavenly Peace. Is "John Keay" a typo for John King Fairbanks? If not, China: A New History is good.
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Jul 11, 2017 10:11
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navyjack posted:
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Jul 11, 2017 13:08
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Not history, but this was a pretty cool book about Romani: http://www.herts.ac.uk/uhpress/books-content/rokkering-to-the-gorjios There is some more good-looking stuff in related books, but I haven't read those. Also, this is even less academical, but I've liked what I read from Princes Amongst Men: https://www.amazon.com/Princes-Amongst-Men-Musicians-Paperback/dp/1852424834
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Jul 11, 2017 13:23
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Oh, cool! I'll have to check that one out!
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Jul 11, 2017 18:24
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Any recommendations for books on the 1st Gulf War? Especially anything that has any insight to the Iraqi side of the conflict. It seems like an event that has been overshadowed by later history.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:02
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navyjack posted:Oh, cool! I'll have to check that one out! I've been working through it. It's not bad for what it is, but I think any history book with such a gigantic scope is forced to miss so much of the interesting details.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:25
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I've been working through it. It's not bad for what it is, but I think any history book with such a gigantic scope is forced to miss so much of the interesting details. It’s a good overview. He also did one on India, which I liked a lot because I knew so little going into it. Spun me off into more targeted books, felt like it gave me a better background to understand those more targeted works. China will do the same if you’re mostly unfamiliar with it all.
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Jul 12, 2017 01:00
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Hi thread, what's a good book on the history of North Korea? Most I can find are books from defectors on their experience, which is not really what I'm looking for.
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Jul 13, 2017 19:46
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thehoodie posted:Hi thread, what's a good book on the history of North Korea? Most I can find are books from defectors on their experience, which is not really what I'm looking for. Lankov's The Real North Korea. I know it's not what you're looking for but Dermick's book on defectors is a measured and detailed contribution and is good for painting a picture on daily life there. Avoid the book by the guy who worked for George Bush, can't remember his name.
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Jul 13, 2017 20:44
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Depends on your level of interest a bit, but I'd recommend A Consice History of Modern Korea by Michael J Seth. It's not just on North Korea but it goes into reasonable detail, and in my opinion it's important to get a broader perspective both on the lead-up to the situation since the partition and to see South Korea's development in parallel. Incidentally if anyone is looking for a book on Korean history in general I'd strongly recommend his full one (I haven't actually read the Modern history book, but from my understanding it's basically the back half of this)- it's pretty comprehensive and goes over the contentious stuff (of which there is a hell of a lot in Korean history) in probably the most balanced and objective way I've found.
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Jul 13, 2017 21:33
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thehoodie posted:Hi thread, what's a good book on the history of North Korea? Most I can find are books from defectors on their experience, which is not really what I'm looking for. My go to for that is "Under the loving care of the fatherly leader" by Brad Martin. It's long and extremely well researched. Fortunately the writing is excellent as well so it never felt like a slog.
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Jul 13, 2017 21:54
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Mr. World posted:My go to for that is "Under the loving care of the fatherly leader" by Brad Martin. It's long and extremely well researched. Fortunately the writing is excellent as well so it never felt like a slog. Seconding Under the Loving Care.
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Jul 13, 2017 22:52
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navyjack posted:Oh, cool! I'll have to check that one out! I can third this recommendation. I have it on my shelf and while it's a very general history, it's a good introduction which is exactly what I needed given that my knowledge of China was so lacking. Keay also tries to counteract the tendency of general histories to get more and more detailed as the timeline closes in on the present so the parts on ancient China make up a good chunk of the book.
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Jul 15, 2017 01:33
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I somehow managed to forget I picked up a copy of The Plantagenets so another long read is in the queue
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Jul 15, 2017 16:58
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Mantis42 posted:. This looks terrific. Added to my list. Thanks!
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Jul 15, 2017 17:44
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Minenfeld! posted:That's what I figured. That's pretty much what I meant; I want to know more about the topic from someone that actually knows about the culture instead of opinions of people annoyed by them.
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Jul 17, 2017 09:21
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Any good books about the Seven Years War or The Austrian War of Succession?
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Aug 3, 2017 20:59
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Does anyone have any good recommendations for books on the Byzantine Empire?
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Aug 20, 2017 22:00
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a7m2 posted:Does anyone have any good recommendations for books on the Byzantine Empire? Anything by Steven Runciman. At least his Fall of Constantinople 1453.
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Aug 20, 2017 23:29
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a7m2 posted:Does anyone have any good recommendations for books on the Byzantine Empire? Norwich's A Short History of Byzantium is fun. It's (I think) an abridged version of the three-volume series he did on Byzantium, but finding all three volumes might be a bit tricky since they've been out of print for a while.
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Aug 21, 2017 07:54
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a7m2 posted:Does anyone have any good recommendations for books on the Byzantine Empire? Judith Herrin has written a couple of books about female emperors. Also Cyril Mango's The Oxford History of Byzantium is good for an overview.
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