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IRQ posted:After the movie I'm confident that firefly was good only because it didn't get the chance to get bad. Definitely, I suspect that the back-half of season 1 would have been disappointing.
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Digital Jedi posted:Billy Campbell's Wayne Callison was great. Hahaha, so it was. I'm as surprised as I was when I recently realised that Billy Campbell also played Okona in that TNG episode where Joe Piscopo teaches Data the meaning of humour. (I was also surprised when I realised that Billy Campbell was the bad guy in The 4400 because I was a big fan of The Rocketeer, but not as much as I was when I realised Richard Tyler was played by Mahershala Ali - granted, I think he was still credited as Eric Gilmore at that time.)
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Aug 22, 2017 16:12
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It's mostly just really uncomfortable to me to see people who have spent the past few years rightfully pointing out how asinine a certain other media crusade launched entirely by a jilted lover's accusations of infidelity now doing the exact same thing themselves once the shoe is on the other foot.
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Aug 22, 2017 16:13
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Guy Mann posted:It's mostly just really uncomfortable to me to see people who have spent the past few years rightfully pointing out how asinine a certain other media crusade launched entirely by a jilted lover's accusations of infidelity now doing the exact same thing themselves once the shoe is on the other foot. What's the first campaign?
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Aug 22, 2017 16:17
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Guy Mann posted:It's mostly just really uncomfortable to me to see people who have spent the past few years rightfully pointing out how asinine a certain other media crusade launched entirely by a jilted lover's accusations of infidelity now doing the exact same thing themselves once the shoe is on the other foot. I legitimately have no idea what the other crusade you're talking about is, but I haven't been in the "Whedon is a feminist" camp since I took a college course on Buffy in my senior year of college. What I did get from the class was an understanding of how to read and analyze media, and the professor didn't appreciate me talking that and turning it around to poo poo on his (incorrect) interpretations of his favorite show. A section of my thesis was actually deconstructing a "paper" he wrote for a "Buffy scholarly journal" because I'm an rear end in a top hat. Most of the paper was an argument about how much Whedon hated the fans of BTVS, as represented by the geek trio. Still passed though. asecondduck fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Aug 22, 2017 |
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Aug 22, 2017 16:19
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PriorMarcus posted:What's the first campaign? Gamergate?
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Aug 22, 2017 16:20
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Guy Mann posted:It's mostly just really uncomfortable to me to see people who have spent the past few years rightfully pointing out how asinine a certain other media crusade launched entirely by a jilted lover's accusations of infidelity now doing the exact same thing themselves once the shoe is on the other foot. Yeah I imagine it would be with your head that far up your rear end.
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Aug 22, 2017 16:22
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Wheat Loaf posted:Hahaha, so it was. I'm as surprised as I was when I recently realised that Billy Campbell also played Okona in that TNG episode where Joe Piscopo teaches Data the meaning of humour. The 4400 is still one of the shows that ended with cliffhanger that I wish it got resolved. That show was really good. Campbell really pulled off the bad guy Jesus look so well. And Ali was fantastic in it as well.
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Aug 22, 2017 16:24
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Digital Jedi posted:The 4400 is still one of the shows that ended with cliffhanger that I wish it got resolved. That show was really good. Campbell really pulled off the bad guy Jesus look so well. And Ali was fantastic in it as well. I've mentioned the 4400 cliffhanger before either in this thread or the last one. I believe there's novels which resolved (Tom uses the Promicin and gains the ability to generate force fields) it but I've never read them. I think it works as one of those "nothing ever truly ends" endings. It wasn't Alphas (also starring Mahershala Ali!), which as a fun little series that had a truly frustrating cliffhanger ending, but nor was it something like Stargate: Atlantis, which didn't really end so much as just stop.
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Aug 22, 2017 16:35
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Digital Jedi posted:The 4400 is still one of the shows that ended with cliffhanger that I wish it got resolved. That show was really good. Campbell really pulled off the bad guy Jesus look so well. And Ali was fantastic in it as well. Also features a young Mahershala Ali, when he went by Mahershalalhashbaz Ali.
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Aug 22, 2017 16:41
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zoux posted:Also features a young Mahershala Ali, when he went by Mahershalalhashbaz Ali. Actually, I think he was still credited as "Eric Gilmore" then.  Did The 4400 predate Lost or was it a Lost-alike mystery box follower?
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Aug 22, 2017 16:49
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Wheat Loaf posted:Actually, I think he was still credited as "Eric Gilmore" then.  Also dear lord I forgot how Canadian Adult Contemporary that show's theme is.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Actually, I think he was still credited as "Eric Gilmore" then. Au contraire, he was in fact credited on The 4400 by his full (even longer) name, Mahershalalhashbaz.
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My mistake - I'm sure I read he was credited as Eric Gilmore early in his career but it must have been on something else.
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Aug 22, 2017 17:05
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Wheat Loaf posted:My mistake - I'm sure I read he was credited as Eric Gilmore early in his career but it must have been on something else. Some sources say his birth name was Eric Gilmore but others (including himself) say it was always Mahershalalhashbaz Gilmore. He was never credited as Gilmore in his career though, he converted and changed his name around 2000 before he got any acting jobs. Whatever the case he's always been Mahershalalhashbaz or Mahershala professionally.
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Aug 22, 2017 17:11
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Wheat Loaf posted:Actually, I think he was still credited as "Eric Gilmore" then. Both premiered within 6 months of each other in 2004, so it's convergent evolution.
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Aug 22, 2017 17:18
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It's kind of odd going back to stuff like The 4400 and Alphas and seeing him on them now that he's won an Oscar and become famous. Like seeing Anthony Hopkins guest starring opposite Peter Wyngarde in an episode of Department S in 1969.
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Aug 22, 2017 17:19
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Jennifer Lawrence was in The Bill Engvall Show.
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Aug 22, 2017 17:32
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Aphrodite posted:Jennifer Lawrence was in The Bill Engvall Show. I'm watching The West Wing for the first time in ages and oh holy poo poo, Peggy Olson from Mad Men is Bartlet's daughter and she's dating Gus.
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Aug 22, 2017 18:52
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Wheat Loaf posted:My mistake - I'm sure I read he was credited as Eric Gilmore early in his career but it must have been on something else. Alexander Siddig went the opposite direction. Early in DS9 he was credited as Siddig El Fadil.
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Aug 22, 2017 20:06
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muscles like this! posted:Alexander Siddig went the opposite direction. Early in DS9 he was credited as Siddig El Fadil. Alexander Siddig's full name is Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi, so he wouldn't have been able to fit on the screen otherwise.
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Aug 22, 2017 20:14
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The RZA is doing a show for Starz called Black Samurai. Common is attached to star.
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Aug 22, 2017 20:25
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I haven't ever given a poo poo about anything Common has done, but his fight scenes in John Wick 2 were good, The RZA is awesome, so this will probably be great.
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Aug 22, 2017 20:31
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He was good in Smokin Aces too.
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lelandjs posted:The difference between Tarantino and Whedon is that there's actually a legitimate argument to be made that Tarantino is a feminist. Whedon not so much. One can also much more easily argue that Tarantino is a good writer and filmmaker than one can argue that of Whedon. I like things they've both done. Thurston Moore cheated on Kim Gordon with a 20-something year old groupie so people being shocked about Whedon strikes me as quaint, if you know anything about the history of Sonic Youth and their gender politics.
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 From one of those analytics compaines so who knows how accurate it is but if it is the Marvel stuff is killing it. quote:San Francisco-based Jumpshot analyzes click-stream data from an online panel of more than 100 million consumers, which amounts to 160 billion individual clicks per month. To compile the data on Netflix originals, it looked at the viewing behavior and activity of the company’s U.S. members. Also The Duffer Bros confirmed season 3 of Stranger Things. zoux fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Aug 22, 2017 |
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Jessica Jones was the best one so of course it's the least watched Marvel show. And the two shows about white guys gets more viewers than the one about the black guy that can deflect bullets. #woke #sjw Stranger Things being so low is surprising. I don't think I believe that chart.
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Mu Zeta posted:Jessica Jones was the best one so of course it's the least watched Marvel show. And the two shows about white guys gets more viewers than the one about the black guy that can deflect bullets. #woke #sjw Joking aside I totally understand why the two shows about punching kicking white guys did better than the two shows that were long form essays on abuse and racism, respectively. I don't like it, but I do understand it. Defenders tried to be a punchy kicky show about the economic disparity and control the elite rich have over the rest of the world but it was clunky.
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They weren't THAT much more popular guys. DD season 2 was but it's also a second season with an audience. Also of the four, DD has the highest name recognition.
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I'm finally catching up on Twin P3aks and just finished episode 11. Hell of an episode to get through if you're trying to cut down on how much you smoke. Applies equally to tobacco and weed.
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Aug 22, 2017 22:42
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I blame Mad Men for my inability to quit smoking while it was on the air, tbh. So understandable.
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lelandjs posted:Joking aside I totally understand why the two shows about punching kicking white guys did better than the two shows that were long form essays on abuse and racism, respectively. I don't like it, but I do understand it. Just wait until The Punisher drops and blows them all out of the water. Literal pornography for a sizable demographic.
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It makes me feel like an easily manipulated monkey but when we're watching something on the couch and someone starts smoking it always makes me want a cigarette, even though I quit cold turkey after 20 years of smoking non-filtered every day. My wife smokes those Camel Crush jobs and I have a few of those a day. I feel really bad for people who get withdrawal symptoms from nicotine, I've had friends go insane trying to quit. If I don't smoke tobacco, I don't really even notice a physical craving.
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Timby posted:I'm watching The West Wing for the first time in ages and oh holy poo poo, Peggy Olson from Mad Men is Bartlet's daughter and she's dating Gus. I'm the opposite. When I saw Get Him to the Greek and it was going to be a threeway scene I literally shouted "Zoey, nooooo!" Also Charlie is just Gus with confidence.
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precision posted:It makes me feel like an easily manipulated monkey but when we're watching something on the couch and someone starts smoking it always makes me want a cigarette, even though I quit cold turkey after 20 years of smoking non-filtered every day. My wife smokes those Camel Crush jobs and I have a few of those a day. It's more habit and enjoying the way it feels, for me. I don't really nic out, I just love smoking. I tried to switch to vape but it doesn't feel the same. If it were an affordable solution and I had a job where I don't mind being high at work, I would drop cigarettes for only weed. As it is I usually roll spliffs to cut down on how many cigarettes I have on a day off. The worst part of a cigarette addiction for me has always been more about wanting one when I get stressed or anxious about something. Then habit/enjoyment. Then nicotine. The crush ones are neat. I like Menthol, but not enough to ever buy a full pack. Menthol is being banned across Canada in October, though, so no more crushes for me soon. Should be fun seeing how many menthol smokers flip out in my store when we stop selling them. But yeah, watching someone light up on screen just makes you want to smoke. It's like that in a group of smokers, anyway. Once one of you lights a cig everyone else usually follows suit, even if they just finished one.
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I quit almost three years ago. I went on film noir kick a few months back and my friends, avoid that genre if you are trying to quit. Everyone looks so cool.
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zoux posted:I quit almost three years ago. I went on film noir kick a few months back and my friends, avoid that genre if you are trying to quit. Everyone looks so cool. Truth right here.
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Mu Zeta posted:Jessica Jones was the best one so of course it's the least watched Marvel show. And the two shows about white guys gets more viewers than the one about the black guy that can deflect bullets. #woke #sjw Jumpshot is about as reliable as ComScore, which is to say "not very." There are a lot of companies that advertise having "panels" of users, from which they extrapolate data; I used to get pitches from companies like them twice a week in a past life. In my experience evaluating them, their panels are usually around the 10,000 number at most, with no examination of demographic or psychographic information, but then the numbers get inflated along the lines of political polling ... except you explicitly have to opt-in to services like Jumpshot or ComScore, and most tech-savvy people say "oh, HELL no," which affects the pool of respondents. The flaw in the methodology is obvious: They're citing "clickstream" numbers from their panel (of "100 million users," lawl), but the vast, vast majority of Netflix users are accessing the service through apps, be it Roku, PS4, Xbox, smart TVs, mobile, etc., not their computers. In any event, Netflix itself said that Iron Fist was, by a considerable margin, the most-watched of any of the Marvel shows thus far released (which is why a second season was greenlit almost immediately after release), and as a public company, it can't outright lie in its press releases or statements. So, yeah, that chart is bullshit. Timby fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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I've always been a Whedon detractor so does that make me the wokest motherfucker?
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muscles like this! posted:The RZA is doing a show for Starz called Black Samurai. Common is attached to star. The Man with the Iron Fists was very not good.
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