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Yeah, the Gordon theory is plausible and kinda cool, but then again almost anything can happen in Twin Peaks and it would make sense in "Lynch-logic." It would explain why he's been a dick about not hearing Albert when he wants to. I'm more interested in two other reddit theories: -Sarah Palmer was the voice (modulated down) talking to Bad Coop on the radio in the motel in episode 2. Makes sense for her to want to "be with Bob again." -Audrey's spirit is trapped in wood. This could possibly be the ringing in the hotel's walls and would explain how she can eavesdrop on people's conversations. Alternatively, she's trapped in wood at the Roadhouse and has been hearing people talk at the tables (which could be why we've been shown their seemingly unrelated conversations).
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Cromulent posted:I don't think Gordon Cole is a bad guy, but I wouldn't be surprised if some carelessness on his part leads to the death of Tammy and/or Albert. I think Cole's arc has been more about the fact that he's old, he's losing his abilities, and the biggest mystery of his career with major implications hasn't been solved, and wants to finish it before he's gone. He's not evil, he's just old and nearing the end, much like many characters in the series.
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JazzFlight posted:Yeah, the Gordon theory is plausible and kinda cool, but then again almost anything can happen in Twin Peaks and it would make sense in "Lynch-logic." It would explain why he's been a dick about not hearing Albert when he wants to. It would be really lame if this was the reason for him pretending not to hear Albert as opposed to knowing each other for decades and Albert knowing Cole's messing with him.
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Aug 23, 2017 14:48
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I don't buy Gordon bring the baddie given he's also been having prophetic visions (Laura Palmer, France dream) guiding him towards solving the case. Also Dougie's reaction to the TV seemed more like unease at being reminded of his former life, he has no reason to suspect Gordon and parted on good terms. Really just seems like alot of circumstantial evidence and misreadings pieced together to spell DARTH JAR JAR
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JazzFlight posted:-Audrey's spirit is trapped in wood. This could possibly be the ringing in the hotel's walls and would explain how she can eavesdrop on people's conversations. Alternatively, she's trapped in wood at the Roadhouse and has been hearing people talk at the tables (which could be why we've been shown their seemingly unrelated conversations). Audrey used to sneak around literally in the walls in S1 and S2 eavesdropping
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Aug 23, 2017 15:23
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Evil Gordon would make sense given that he was being sucked into the black lodge in the episode where they go to the oil puddle in South Dakota. If Andy is the ideal vessel of the white lodge, Cole was likely being targeted for the same reason. I don't think it's 100% likely, but the point of who Gordon Cole is in Sunset Boulevard, whistling Engel in front of a mushroom cloud, etc, point to the fact that there's more to his motivations than just solving crimes. It's been all but confirmed that he's not really deaf, so we know he's hiding something. People have spent the enitre season talking about how robotic Tammy is, but if Cole is really looking for agents to manipulate, someone who doesn't do a lot of thinking on their own is ideal, right? Gordon may not be the arch villain, but we need to know what he's been listening to, and why Diane is so furious with him and the FBI before we can really judge who he is and what he wants.
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Aug 23, 2017 15:23
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Cole wasn't targeted to go to the black lodge, he's just the only one who approached the portal.
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Aug 23, 2017 15:32
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Cole being evil would be such a lame loving twist and would make me lose a lot of respect for this season since he's been one of the best parts.
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Aug 23, 2017 15:37
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JazzFlight posted:-Sarah Palmer was the voice (modulated down) talking to Bad Coop on the radio in the motel in episode 2. Makes sense for her to want to "be with Bob again." Oh I like this. I can't wait to go back and watch every episode again. I feel like things will feel a lot different the second time around.
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Aug 23, 2017 15:38
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JazzFlight posted:I'm more interested in two other reddit theories: none of those fit any of the current text.
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Aug 23, 2017 15:44
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lol why do people think Cole has an arc or motivation outside of coffee and being a horndog
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Angrymantium posted:It's been all but confirmed that he's not really deaf, so we know he's hiding something. Cromulent fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Aug 23, 2017 15:46
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Zmej posted:lol why do people think Cole has an arc or motivation outside of coffee and being a horndog He gives people thumbs ups too
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Zmej posted:lol why do people think Cole has an arc or motivation outside of coffee and being a horndog Probably because he's a character in a well-written story
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Twin Peaks is probably my favorite television show of all time but one of the reasons is definitely not "deep, multifaceted characters"
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The only character who hasn't had any actual arc or progression is Audrey, which is ironic, since she went from being a foolishly brave independent person who would investigate anything around her to a character incapable of doing anything and codependent to a sleepy man who gives no shits.
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EDIT: ^^ That 'coat or no coat' discussion felt really weird, and I genuinely felt Audrey was just getting mad at nothing. I have a question! How are we, as viewers, supposed to have known Naido's name? Also, does anyone else feel kind of sick looking at her... uhh... eyeholes, or whatever they are? Bleh. Oh, and did I miss the introduction or even halfway explanation to whoever that guy is in the TP jail that has the hosed up face and repeats everything? I think I have to rewatch this, goddamn, there's just so much that's happened.
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Audrey's segments seem like someone fighting indecision and self loathing more than arguing with a dream husband Her "story" is the fiction she had built of her self image just as much as it is a purgatorial dream state Also Cole is not evil he is 
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Capntastic posted:Audrey's segments seem like someone fighting indecision and self loathing more than arguing with a dream husband
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Capntastic posted:Audrey's segments seem like someone fighting indecision and self loathing more than arguing with a dream husband I don't know what that emote is. Naido and Richard Horne were originally identified from the credits. Same with mother/the experiment. Kinda odd to place stuff only there, but it is available information.
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Aug 23, 2017 16:19
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zelah posted:I don't know what that emote is. Thank you muchly. I wouldn't have been surprised that I had just flat-out missed something.
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Vikar Jerome posted:none of those fit any of the current text. why not e: I don't really buy the audrey one but the sarah one is interesting and I don't see any reason why it's impossible based on what we've seen
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Aug 23, 2017 16:29
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I actually sympathize with Charlie, as I'm on deadline and tired all the time too.
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zelah posted:I don't know what that emote is. Cromulent fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Aug 23, 2017 17:04
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I maintain that Richard calling Red a "magic bastard" is the funniest line in the whole series
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Oh, and did I miss the introduction or even halfway explanation to whoever that guy is in the TP jail that has the hosed up face and repeats everything? I think I have to rewatch this, goddamn, there's just so much that's happened. Or, he might also be that guy (I forget the name) that the girls at the roadhouse were talking about that barged in to their kitchen all bloody and talking strange?
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The Merkinman posted:Or, he might also be that guy (I forget the name) that the girls at the roadhouse were talking about that barged in to their kitchen all bloody and talking strange? Important name, and I'm thinking it's probably him.
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Aug 23, 2017 17:13
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Maybe it's the ghost of Billy Wilder, who directed Sunset Blvd.
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Billy was supposed to be bleeding from the nose and mouth, the drunk is only bleeding (drooling?) from his mouth. Plus there's multiple people looking for him, one of them should have called the sheriff's department by now. I like the Audrey is trapped in wood theory, but Charlie's phonecall seems to directly disprove it
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Aug 23, 2017 17:20
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Gordon's new hearing aids are good enough where he can hear good now but prefers to fake it for fun. His ears ring because they're really sensitive when he has it turned up.
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I don't think it's super important, but every Audrey scene shares the same color palette and lighting as every scene in the Roadhouse outside of the musical performances.
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Whatever is up with Audrey's story is far weirder than any of the Lodge mythos plotlines, the intersection of the real world and what appear to be some kind of dream world appears deliberately not to make any sense. Curious and slightly nervous how it's going to end up panning out.
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https://twitter.com/dianepodcast/status/900377745498271745 Geeking out so hard right now 
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Aug 23, 2017 17:32
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I hope the final scene of the show is Andy and Lucy having a nice, peaceful family picnic.
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Cromulent posted:It's easily my biggest gripe about this season. I would forgive it if it were 9 episodes, but it's almost inexcusable with how much time they've had. It's not even just poor characterization, we just straight up haven't seen them. There's a sick part of me that wants to see the material that WAS cut in editing. What could it have been?!
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:I hope the final scene of the show is Andy and Lucy having a nice, peaceful family picnic. Wally Brando eating a drumstick, pontificating with his loving dad.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Wally Brando eating a drumstick, pontificating with his loving dad. The mashed potatoes are your dharma...
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Hakkesshu posted:Cole being evil would be such a lame loving twist and would make me lose a lot of respect for this season since he's been one of the best parts.
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Aug 23, 2017 18:14
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what if Sonny Jim was the Booper this whole time!?!
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Franchescanado posted:The only character who hasn't had any actual arc or progression is Audrey, which is ironic, since she went from being a foolishly brave independent person who would investigate anything around her to a character incapable of doing anything and codependent to a sleepy man who gives no shits. Rupert Buttermilk posted:EDIT: ^^ That 'coat or no coat' discussion felt really weird, and I genuinely felt Audrey was just getting mad at nothing. Yeah, her behavior in that scene made me fully buy into the theory of it being some kind of dream. There's no reason for her to get hung up on petty bullshit when she's finally about to get what she wants, it's got to be her subconscious or some poo poo preventing her from leaving the confines of the dream.
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