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McTimmy posted:Morales uses 6 energy to heal a tick and after 3 seconds of not healing regains 6. Morales self-heals for 2% max HP when healing others. Ok so y = x+3.
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YolkaEd posted:The Leoric rework looks insane. Baseline cleave+100% bonus damage every third basic attack (matching up his animations), March of the Black King buffed, his Entomb 20 talent silences heroes caught in it, and he has a talent called Kneel, Peasants! I cannot wait for this to go live (and inevitably be nerfed because of excessive whining). I dunno, looks pretty bad to me. Granted we have pretty limited details right now but look at some of this poo poo: -14 sec CD on swing is a huge nerf to his wave clear and very punishing if you happen to miss a hero - Moving similar talents on to the same tier really fucks with his ability to specialize (which is one of the reasons why I think he's a cool champion) - A lot of the talents are the same but have reduced numbers as well as no longer being able to synergize with some other talents that would make them stronger - The silence on entomb is cool but getting it so late in the game really hurts its usefulness. I have doubts it will even change up Leoric's gameplan all that much adding 1 or 2 more targets to the list of people you want to entomb since you'll still probably be going after the same target or using it in the same situations. - Ominous Wraith is so good it seems like a joke, especially with royal focus synergy. I could see those 2 talents dominating their respective talent tiers and having to spend a bunch of my time ghosting around teamfights as a weird pseudo-support tank (not really something I want to be doing as Leoric) - Keeping track of auto attacks can be an unfun chore It could also be I'm just mad that they screwed with or removed all my normal talents (and I didn't even go with the drain hope entomb build 95% of the time). BattleHamster fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Aug 22, 2017 |
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Mind over Matter posted:Their allotted Steve Blum time is much better spent on getting Zoltun Kulle into the game. Zoltun Kulle is the best thing to come out of Diablo 3 and I would love to see him in HOTS.
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March heals 12% per hit in the rework, it seems pretty crazy. Still not better than Entomb but not completely dead weight now.
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boy, i would be much happier with Twitch clips if it didn't load in the loving chat.
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Thank you twitch for providing a mute button leeeee or ick is BACK BOYeeeeeeees
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BattleHamster posted:
Yeah that's Samuro's gimmick and it's annoying
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Why would you keep track of Samuro's auto if you're only hitting neutral creeps until you hit level 28
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This is cool, i wonder what the rest of the match is like... https://clips.twitch.tv/DifficultBreakableTarsierYouWHY
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Fried Watermelon posted:Yeah that's Samuro's gimmick and it's annoying I liked it on Vi back in League, probably bolstered by the fact that the tak, tak, CRACK of her auto attacks was really satisfying.
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Pallytime is streaming again, currently looking at Leroic. For those of you worried about his waveclear after his other changes and haven't heard yet (like me), his auto attacks now cleave twice, crit one target, then repeats.
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Q: What's worse than having an abathur on your team that takes monstrosity? A: Losing to an abathur that takes monstrosity. A2: An abathur that takes ultimate evolution and never uses it. EDIT: And somehow monstrosity has a higher winrate than evo on hotslogs... I seriously don't understand how that's possible. No Wave fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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No Wave posted:Q: What's worse than having an abathur on your team that takes monstrosity? Because win rate has nothing to do with if a skill is good.
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If your team is already rolling the enemy in teamfights 4v5, ultimate evo isn't going to give you much additional value, while monstrosity will push a lane and take out structures and provide map pressure like a merc wave. Think of it as a win more talent, and the win rate makes sense.
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There's also probably a bunch of games where the monstrosity gets time to snowball just because of bad play (or possibly even because of the conventional wisdom that it's the bad ult that doesn't do anything), meanwhile Ultimate Evo requires the Aba player to have some idea of how to play at least one of the other heroes on the team, and have the good game sense to know when to pop it and on who. FWIW, Evo's winrate is slightly better in HL. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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If you stack the right hat skills, the monstrosity can become nigh boss-level when it comes to hammering a lane. Depending on the map it's a totally valid strat, assuming your team can hold their own in team fights or delay well enough. Examples would be Dragon shire or Braxis. Otherwise it's poo poo, yeah.
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Fuzz posted:If you stack the right hat skills, the monstrosity can become nigh boss-level when it comes to hammering a lane. Depending on the map it's a totally valid strat, assuming your team can hold their own in team fights or delay well enough. Examples would be Dragon shire or Braxis. If your team can win all their team fights 4.25v5 then it really doesn't matter what Aba is doing.
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If it's an Abathur doing what they're supposed to be doing, it absolutely does matter. The XP lead a good Abathur can provide is very significant.
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It shouldn't really take a lot of imaginative effort to see how both Abathur ultimates can be very useful in different circumstances.
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Onean posted:If it's an Abathur doing what they're supposed to be doing, it absolutely does matter. The XP lead a good Abathur can provide is very significant. This. It's not much different than Murky, it's just Murky gets a pass (and regularly gives up exp for dying) while everyone loses their minds if Aba decides to push a lane. On the maps I mentioned you don't have to win team fights, just delay or counter cap to halt all objective progress. In that situation you will ultimately win by stalling and dragging them into wasting their time on the objective while your Aba takes two forts and runs wild on a lane unless they then waste time stopping him (which would take more than one person because the monstrosity is a sponge and isn't affected by percentage hero damage because it's technically not a hero), in which case you roll the rest of their team and take the objective(s). Monstrosity is totally valid, if built right and the Aba knows what they're doing.
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Not gonna lie I'm more excited for the documentary about how they make a hero than Kel'thuzad himself
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Fuzz posted:This. You can't really just stall if you're down a man. They can just bully you completely out of the lane if they're up a person. I've never seen any team ever draft Aba on those maps or Aba ever take monstrosity in a real game. I think your argument is more that, if the other team is real bad then monstrosity is great. Which is probably true. But so is just about any hero/ult. If your team is able to hold 4v5 then you can just let anyone with a global go split push and get the same xp lead. Except that extra teammate can also come team fight if needed. bamhand fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes-of-the-storm/20973152/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-patch-notes-august-23-2017 Goodbye Butcher and Uther
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Hunt CD from 60 seconds to 100 seconds... good lord ded character Xul skelemage cooldown increase - called it and posted about it here!!! Garrosh buffed, which was surprising, his winrate was going up already.
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Wow it's just nerfs for everyone. Except Garrosh. And Tyrande.
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Seems weird that Malthiel is still left alone when he's 4th highest winrate, 4th highest pick rate. I guess he's not that frustrating.
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No Wave posted:Seems weird that Malthiel is still left alone when he's 4th highest winrate, 4th highest pick rate. I guess he's not that frustrating. No one can stop Death.
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i'll forever miss hyper-butcher, he was truly too beautiful for this world
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stay depressed posted:i'll forever miss hyper-butcher, he was truly too beautiful for this world
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I played with a Malth last night who took Pale Horse at level 1 (and a bunch of other dumb talents down the road) Turns out when you ignore his only two escape talents, Malthael dies a whole lot. Who woulda thought?! Butcher desperately needed the nerf, as fun as he was to steamroll with. I've played with several god-awful butchers since the patch who still finished their quests easily.
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Gobbeldygook posted:I started playing about two weeks ago and the Butcher is by far the least fun thing in the game so I support any and all nerfs to him. I think everyone feels like that about butcher when they start. It seems broken that he can just charge and kill you until you start playing with teams that will just kill him He's hell broken now though. Last game with butcher I played we were was teamed with a Garrosh and he just got thrown meat constantly. He got stacked in like 4 minutes and it was just gross
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PantsBandit posted:I played with a Malth last night who took Pale Horse at level 1 (and a bunch of other dumb talents down the road) Heh, I never could understand why anyone would take pale horse.
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bamhand posted:Wow it's just nerfs for everyone. Except Garrosh. And Tyrande. A L A R A K
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What an odd patch, a lot of random changes/nerfs to heroes that don't see much play already Kerrigan changes make no real sense, and they nerfed Chen but didn't address the massive bug that is making him see a little bit of play now Midnightghoul fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Rewards for an event are up. They all look real boring.
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Why did they nerf chen, I don't understand
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Schneider Inside Her posted:I think everyone feels like that about butcher when they start. It seems broken that he can just charge and kill you until you start playing with teams that will just kill him
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Gobbeldygook posted:Right now I'm just leveling heroes up to 5 in quick match. If Butcher is on the other team, often I don't really get to play the second half of the game because he will 100-0 stunlock/silence me on sight because I queued up with the wrong hero. I understand he's not very good competitively and how a good team would deal with him, but he ruins my fun and I want that to stop. If you're getting owned by the Butcher now, you're still going to get owned by the Butcher after the patch. It'll just take him slightly longer to get up to speed.
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