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safely sodomized posted:time for the dictatorship of the teens you must do this sick a kickflip to enter the white house
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Yinlock posted:you must do this sick a kickflip to enter the white house Bernie would have ollie'd
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Ruzihm posted:Do: join a working group. ask how you can help with things that interest you. talk about any organizing experience or relevant connections if you have any (If you dont thats totally ok, same w/ me) What if you just want to show up to know what's going on and then leave?
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safely sodomized posted:time for the dictatorship of the teens dictatorship of the proleteeniat
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tyranny of the majoriteen
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got sent to the gulag for not following the chairperson on snapchat
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net work error posted:What if you just want to show up to know what's going on and then leave? That's cool, and even then you'll probably want to sign up for email or chat or w/e electronic discussion for a group that interests you, if your local does that. It's fine to show up and end up doing nothing, but in my opinion you should go at least hoping something you're interested in participating in will pop up. Here's my reasoning for that: If I'm planning to go to only observe & not participate at all, then I might as well stay home and hear about whatever's going on after the fact on twitter or the news. On the other hand, if I'm interested in learning of ways I can support & then actually doing that, it might be kind of silly to go with the expectation of just showing up just to listen.
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Aug 24, 2017 22:18
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Aug 24, 2017 22:27
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Apparently I'm a left SR, but I picked neutral on most of the questions about the politics of 1917 Russia.
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Just going to meetings is fine, most people do that, but I'd recommend at least looking into a reading group or something. Also, and this might just be personal experience, working groups don't require a lot of effort on your part and you get a lot more in-depth knowledge of what's going on that's more tailored to your interests. Plus, you get the inside scoop on some of the cooler events and very rarely do working groups require you to sing the Internationale or Solidarity Forever so that's an immediate bonus.
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I'm a Bolshevik as is anyone who knows that a strong state is the only reasonable bulwark between our future socialist utopia and the barbaric capitalists.
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im in the good spot, bay-bee: gonna get super-purged tho.
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I thought the left SRs largely survived the purges, just not as a political party
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I'm just not sure I understand what a lack of private properly looks like.
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left SR bros
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Apparently I'm a left SR, but I picked neutral on most of the questions about the politics of 1917 Russia. I too am a left SR. Maria Spiridonova was cool
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Aug 24, 2017 22:48
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  gently caress YEAH SMASH THE STATE
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TrilliontonNixon posted:
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I thought the left SRs largely survived the purges, just not as a political party Stalin had Spirdanova executed so uh
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Larry Parrish posted:Stalin had Spirdanova executed so uh i was thinking more of the rank and file
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BORN 2 DIE UKRAINE IS A gently caress Kill Em All 1918 I am a Black Army man 410,757,864,530 dead Bolsheviks
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Internet Explorer posted:I'm just not sure I understand what a lack of private properly looks like. It's when everyone owns the productive stuff so nobody owns any of the productive stuff. Kind of like square footage of the sun today, I guess????
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Aug 24, 2017 22:59
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Ruzihm posted:It's when everyone owns the productive stuff so nobody owns any of the productive stuff. Kind of like the sun today, I guess???? Ah, that's right. Private property versus personal property.
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Internet Explorer posted:I'm just not sure I understand what a lack of private properly looks like. It's when everything is cool af
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Internet Explorer posted:I'm just not sure I understand what a lack of private properly looks like. everybody shares 1 toothbrush e: I'm apparently a Menshevik Internationalist, whatever that means
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Internet Explorer posted:Ah, that's right. Private property versus personal property. Yeah there needs to be a better word for it than private property, and means of production is a bit of a mouthful.
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Agean90 posted:Yeah there needs to be a better word for it than private property, and means of production is a bit of a mouthful. gently caress the landlords works
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Mechafunkzilla posted:e: I'm apparently a Menshevik Internationalist, whatever that means 
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Just be a little careful using "MoP", "capital", and "private property" interchangeably. Capital & private property don't exist under communism, but there will still be means of production. Private property is just one kind of capital. Wages are another kind of capital. And on the topic of technical terms that are needlessly confusing in today's parlance: I like to use "profitable property" instead of "private property", since it gets across the implication more clearly, while also avoiding some confusion. I guess you could say "extremely productive stuff" to distinguish between MoP and personal property that is used to make things, like ovens or sewing machines. "Your things" or more specifically "the things you are enjoying" might be fine for "means of consumption" or "personal property".
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Aug 24, 2017 23:31
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:Hannah is good, you should go Oh I'm definitely going. Time to start plotting the overthrow of the city government and the establishment of the Commune.
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Typo posted:
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Ruzihm posted:Just be a little careful using "MoP", "capital", and "private property" interchangeably. Productive property would be more correct. Not all productive property is profitable after all.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:everybody shares 1 toothbrush Broadly speaking they were the most left wing branch of the Mensheviks, based around Iulii Martov, the main difference they had with the rest of the Mensheviks was they shared the Bolshevik opposition to the war and supported "an honourable peace", which basically meant without annexations. Because most Mensheviks believed Russia needed to go through a bourgeois stage before socialism they were staunch supporters of the Provisional Government, and it wanted to maintain support of Russia's allies.
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