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Nate RFB posted:Outside of maybe sticking it at the front of a line to give an Arts-effect to the rest of your teammates' cards, or pulling off an Arts-Arts-Arts combo, or maybe if you have an Arts-boosting CE or skill to increase damage, it would seem to be a detrimental status to have for your NP. What your mentioned are kinda big deal and not as useless as you thought.
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Also, arts-based NPs with multiple hits will often generate a decent amount of NP on their own.
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Freak Futanari posted:Also, arts-based NPs with multiple hits will often generate a decent amount of NP on their own.
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Nate RFB posted:This sounds like the biggest possible plus. Maybe if you have a CE that greatly boosts NP gain you can get really close to firing it off again afterwards. Rider Mordred isn't out in NA yet, but she's a prime example of this. Put her together with a Tamamo, and her NP will often bring her right back up to 100%. I can usually use her NP 4 turns in a row as long as there are enough enemies Needless to say she's really good for farming EXP/QP dailies Also, Archer Artoria is a single-target example, she can spam her NP stupidly much as well
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Quick card has the lowest dmg modifier, so you better crit next turn or lose out to art and their NP SPAM. Imagine art chain every turn, 20% charge every turn.
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So let me see if I have this right: There's no downside to levelling multiples of the same CE before you combine them, because if you combine two the excess XP is just applied to the combined CE. And if you toss a bunch of 1* CEs together this way, you can make 'CE bombs' to instantly max out high-level CEs? Am I misinterpreting what I'd heard?
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That's pretty much right.
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I guess but I laugh at the notion of "instantly maxing out" anything. I've been doing the "always throw higher leveled CEs into level 1 CEs" for the bonus XP for weeks, and then this week unloaded these so-called "CE bombs" into a 4* CE. It was in the 40s and all of the bombs together gained it two levels. Honestly CE leveling feels like a scam unless you have a lot of excess 3* from the FP gacha.
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There are events later on that give you CE exp cards that give a bunch of experience, but even then levelling a CE to 100 will take a very very long time
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Also that 4* CE (the defense boosting one with Kirei) gave it like a...30 HP boost. Limit breaking a CE for improved effects feels far, far more important.
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Aug 24, 2017 15:28
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Got the Medjed! Nice! I keep having amazing luck on the Japanese server, especially compared to NA.
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Aug 24, 2017 22:43
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Tbf japan give more apology quartz for their potato server while USA quality server chunging data like a grinder
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I don't know if I'm playing this game correctly. I spend most of my week farming ascension items and sometimes EXP cards. I have barely touched any of the main story and character quest stuff because the items are so rare.
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I kinda want to put a poll up to see what people think Aniplex are going to do for September. We basically have 4 options: 1. Swap in GUDAGUDA instead of Halloween. 2. Put Okeanos in a bit early. 3. gently caress it, Halloween in September is fine. 4. You get literally nothing. Those are roughly ranked more or less in the order of likelihood that makes sense to me, but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
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Aug 24, 2017 22:51
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If they have Okeanos' translation ready I'd think that releasing it early would make the most sense. In the japanese schedule it and London feel pretty squashed together. That said, September only having the Kintoki banner would make a lot of sense too.
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Aug 24, 2017 22:55
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Probably 4 maybe 2
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I'm wagering Okeanos, if only because I feel like GUDAGUDA would be too soon.
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They should release GUDAGUDA so I can finally have more than two archers.
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Marogareh posted:They should release GUDAGUDA so I can finally have more than two archers. Okeanos should take care of that need too.
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How much free quartz do you get from just playing the game normally?
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Stink Billyums posted:How much free quartz do you get from just playing the game normally? It varies, but if you get all the login bonuses and shop tickets it should work out to at least 20 or so rolls a month; probably more.
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Revalis Enai posted:I don't know if I'm playing this game correctly. I spend most of my week farming ascension items and sometimes EXP cards. I have barely touched any of the main story and character quest stuff because the items are so rare.
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NRVNQSR posted:It varies, but if you get all the login bonuses and shop tickets it should work out to at least 20 or so rolls a month; probably more. And what if you have a strict 'no quartz spent on anything but 10-rolls' policy? Because that's 'most efficient' and some people physically need to play their waifu game at maximum efficiency. But yeah, I often wonder what the new player experience is like for people who weren't there week 1. I was able to get enough quartz together to do 5 10-rolls on the Gil banner, but without that, the extra critical xp successes, and other jump-starts, I don't know how anyone could catch up to me after these 2 months. And I wouldn't even consider myself that far in, my best servants are level 60, I have 1 5*, and all my Fous have been sacrificed to Medusa because I've decided I wanted to waifu her despite no casual bookworm outfit option.
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24 Quartz and 9 summon tickets per month are the absolute minimum from Master Missions, Login Bonuses and the Prism Shop.
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Sciencegar posted:And what if you have a strict 'no quartz spent on anything but 10-rolls' policy? Because that's 'most efficient' and some people physically need to play their waifu game at maximum efficiency. I'm not sure what you mean? I was talking about quartz income, not quartz spending. Sciencegar posted:But yeah, I often wonder what the new player experience is like for people who weren't there week 1. I was able to get enough quartz together to do 5 10-rolls on the Gil banner, but without that, the extra critical xp successes, and other jump-starts, I don't know how anyone could catch up to me after these 2 months. And I wouldn't even consider myself that far in, my best servants are level 60, I have 1 5*, and all my Fous have been sacrificed to Medusa because I've decided I wanted to waifu her despite no casual bookworm outfit option. Not getting
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NRVNQSR posted:Not getting No 4* selector and not being able to quickly reroll for 5*s. The extra starting 10 roll was really, really nice
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gwrtheyrn posted:No 4* selector and not being able to quickly reroll for 5*s. The extra starting 10 roll was really, really nice I'm not convinced that many people rerolled for 5*s to be honest; even on day one you were looking at 6+ hours of rerolling for a decent chance at one. Threads like this aren't really going to be a representative sample. It was easier to reroll for a good start in general, though.
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I got Herc in my tutorial roll and never looked back. Then I wasted my free select on Siegfried. So I clearly have no idea what I'm doing with the game.
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I started at launch and rerolled during the Gil banner. As of this moment, I kinda regret picking Herc for my free 4* because I never use him and just pick random max level altera/lancelot/gil with kaleidoscope. This might change in the future but right now I never use my herc.
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Status report: Still no summer servant, but my Mordred is now NP3 
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NRVNQSR posted:I'm not convinced that many people rerolled for 5*s to be honest; even on day one you were looking at 6+ hours of rerolling for a decent chance at one. Threads like this aren't really going to be a representative sample. Rerolling for a 5* wasn't even that hard unless you were dead set on a specific 5+4* pair (e.g. herc/waver, probably the most popular). You only really got into rerolling hell when you're looking for specific servant/ce sets
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cyxx posted:I started at launch and rerolled during the Gil banner. As of this moment, I kinda regret picking Herc for my free 4* because I never use him and just pick random max level altera/lancelot/gil with kaleidoscope. This might change in the future but right now I never use my herc. You're not using him because you're just farming right now. He's for killing bosses: He's a real beast.
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Sciencegar posted:I got Herc in my tutorial roll and never looked back. I kinda wish I had Siegfried so I could run the Siegfried and George bro-team.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I kinda wish I had Siegfried so I could run the Siegfried and George bro-team. Part of me is interested in that, but with Medusa as my waifu and Alex as my coming to terms with the complicated nature of human sexuality, I don't have a Rider slot free for the time being.
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You can use more than one Rider at once in battle, you know.
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Got Martha on a random 3-Quartz roll, followed by Black Keys. The Gacha giveth, the Gacha taketh away.
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Vengarr posted:You're not using him because you're just farming right now. He's for killing bosses: Hmm he feels real weak right now but I'm assuming it's because I have him at 70 and he has a reverse s stat growth?
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It's partly because of that, yes, but the other parts are his Bond Craft Essence, and him being a Berserker, and him having survival Skills.
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Herc feels like basically the "perfect" Berserker. A skill to boost his attack, two defense-orientated skills to keep him alive (this is key), and a single-target Buster NP that hits a ton of times. He even seems to have an OK NP gain rate. The worst thing I can say about him is that I guess his star generation capabilities is kind of lackluster. My Herc is also at 70 but with a Limited Zero / Over CE he regularly brushes 10,000 damage per Buster hit. I can only imagine what he'll be able to do once he gets his Bond CE.
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