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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I'm completely serious. the application it's from is basically a form for requesting access to other apps but rather than have, idk, a generic data model in which to fit collections of possible app roles they have html stored in a database that the vomit onto the page per application and then barf the whole lot back at the backend on submit and do.... Something but mostly just seem to store the entire thing as text. I think that when you view a request it's actually just dumping that html blob back into the ui each time. this means there's zero consistency in the data that's actually stored for anything ...............................................................................................what
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:yeah it's a pos some of the undergrad engineering courses at my school use those. they've had them for a few years so every robot has all these little bespoke tweaks to account for hardware variations etc that also make code not necessarily portable between robots so lol/rip. Bloody posted:haven't used it myself but I know a lot of people who like it but idk it's an os so it's probably a pos it's an enormous pos that incidentally has a bunch of very useful motion planning and robot perception stuff built to work with it
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lancemantis posted:...............................................................................................what if I remember I'll do some request sniffing and post the full horror but I am not making any of that up edit: idk if this is better or worse than the "workflow platform" that stored javascript in the db and would just append it to the page and run it to provide the actual "flow" Powerful Two-Hander fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:if I remember I'll do some request sniffing and post the full horror but I am not making any of that up ... . . ....... . .. .. .... what
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Aug 25, 2017 04:55
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remember terraframe? i was completely serious about it being excellent course material, because of the poo poo like that thing Powerful Two-Hander is talking about.
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Aug 25, 2017 09:48
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:if I remember I'll do some request sniffing and post the full horror but I am not making any of that up we had some poo poo like this at my first job that job taught me more about how to program (by teaching my how not to program) than any other job i've had. imo everyone should spend some time fighting a garbage heap
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Aug 25, 2017 10:59
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the reporting system of lastjob’s product stored report templates as a TEXT field in the db containing a large piece of XML that the software decoded into an SQL query every time we upgraded reports broke and we had to go manually fix the XML in customers’ databases when they reported it
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Luigi Thirty posted:the reporting system of lastjob’s product stored report templates as a TEXT field in the db containing a large piece of XML that the software decoded into an SQL query i wrote a reporting system that's worse than this reports are stored for each app as compiled code. they're authored in microsoft word, saved as rtf files containing Razor markup, which is then run through a compiler-as-a-service. RUNNING a report is a relatively trivial affair because they've been typechecked and everything, it just spits out your templated RTF - but getting them to actually compile involves hand tweaking and constant breaks it's in active use in multiple applications  developers can't stand it but business users looooove the thing because they can use Word.here's the parser from an open-sourceised subset someone actually asked me to release: https://github.com/gulbanana/gillette/blob/master/gillette/CSTemplateParser.cs
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Ciaphas posted:Ok so say I've done ten checkins to my branch on TFS/TFVC, to accomplish one or two overall changes or action items or whatever you wanna call them nope. tfvc branching is poo poo but what can ya do. in reality it doesn't really matter. just use a commit message that describes what it's implementing/fixing. most of the time the details of the individual change sets underneath simply don't matter.
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Luigi Thirty posted:the reporting system of lastjob’s product stored report templates as a TEXT field in the db containing a large piece of XML that the software decoded into an SQL query oh poo poo we have this. someone set it up as a reporting component years ago (at least 10) and we've left it in place because replacing it is too much effort to replace and all reporting solutions suck to some extent. it does actually work pretty well all thing a considered, though occasionally someone accidentally creates a humongous join and locks up all db resources.
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Aug 25, 2017 15:37
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Arcsech posted:whenever a tech thing has "simple" in the name you can assume it is a complex hair all of awfulness exhibit a: swf defense counter evidence: sqs
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sqs owns
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Gul Banana posted:i wrote a reporting system that's worse than this this is counter-revolutionary thought
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Luigi Thirty posted:the reporting system of lastjob’s product stored report templates as a TEXT field in the db containing a large piece of XML that the software decoded into an SQL query this kind of relates back to an earlier quote: all enterprise systems evolve to become poorly implemented attempts at a DSL "if we just make the [reporting|*] system ~flexible~ enough, we won't need to hire as many programmers" -- every manager ever "poo poo thats hard, what if we just use a database anti-pattern and be done with it?" -- enterprise programmers
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sounds like im going to be on the swagger train on a project
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at my job we use scala but we use a lot of java stuff (jackson, java enums, etc). this is usually not a problem but right now it TOTALLY SUCKS because I can't find a postgres sql library that's setup to handle both java and scala poo poo. so i'm using slick, which is the most highly rated sql library for scala. so far I've only had to write a jackson adapter for it but i've got a sinking feeling this is going to be a total mess. atm I'm trying to get the following relatively simple jsonb query to work: code:code:also slick doesn't really support any json stuff because scala has 6 json libraries and they decided supporting them would be too difficult. so i'm using some guys extensions. ugh. really wish we were just using java atm DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Aug 26, 2017 |
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code:the yospos number... could it be the prophecy is true.....
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:atm I'm trying to get the following relatively simple jsonb query to work has anyone ever seen a json/jsonb column that didn't almost immediately become a nightmare to work with? it reeks of "our group is not done designing this system but we ran out of time" to me
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i really dislike slick. i always find it takes ages to find out how to do all but the simplest poo poo.
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and i got bit by this the other day: https://github.com/slick/slick/issues/966
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Corla Plankun posted:has anyone ever seen a json/jsonb column that didn't almost immediately become a nightmare to work with? it reeks of "our group is not done designing this system but we ran out of time" to me i'm migrating a mongo db to postgres, and as much as I'd love to fully normalize the schema, there's almost no way I can achieve that without breaking poo poo. so the idea is to use jsonb as an escape valve. a very small horse posted:i really dislike slick. i always find it takes ages to find out how to do all but the simplest poo poo. yeah i'm really getting there. none of the other options looked better but I'm going to try them because slick isn't good so far.
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maybe i can just use mybatis and handle manually mapping all the postgres datatypes into our scala datatypes. uuugh. really not pleased with scala right now.
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i'm migrating a mongo db to postgres, and as much as I'd love to fully normalize the schema, there's almost no way I can achieve that without breaking poo poo. so the idea is to use jsonb as an escape valve. i've used squeryl which is dog poo poo and scalike jdbc which was fine but needed a good bit of boilerplate because all the queries and mappings are string sql statements
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gonadic io posted:i've used squeryl which is dog poo poo and scalike jdbc which was fine but needed a good bit of boilerplate because all the queries and mappings are string sql statements
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:postgres scala stuff can't you use jooq or hibernate (ugh) or even straight jdbc, just like you would in java? write your queries in sql and don't rely on someone's translation layer... they probably don't support the latest jsonb features, and you aren't gonna get much out of the object mapping parts when your data is in json
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JewKiller 3000 posted:can't you use jooq or hibernate (ugh) or even straight jdbc, just like you would in java? write your queries in sql and don't rely on someone's translation layer... they probably don't support the latest jsonb features, and you aren't gonna get much out of the object mapping parts when your data is in json yeah, if I give up on this that's one route I'll look at. i was overestimating the difficulty of translating between the java library and scala case classes (which is really not a big deal).
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god help me i have a graph problem tailor made for prolog  how do i get started with prolog in 2017?
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:god help me i have a graph problem tailor made for prolog
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:yeah, if I give up on this that's one route I'll look at. i was overestimating the difficulty of translating between the java library and scala case classes (which is really not a big deal). it's not at all, using java libraries from scala is trivial - case classes are just regular classes with a bunch of helper fields/methods defined for you. using scala libraries from java is possible but not worth it imo - especially because scala libraries tend to be worse.
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Elysiume posted:I used prolog in my proglang class in college and had it on babby's first resume until someone told me that I shouldn't put something on my resume unless I'd want to work with it, thought about the idea of using prolog in a work capacity, and promptly removed it same but fortran
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ok so prolog sucks but does datalog suck too or not?
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:god help me i have a graph problem tailor made for prolog maybe Amzi? I only know about them because they made some of their system Open Source there's also SWI Prolog which has builds for the Mac and Windows eschaton fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Aug 27, 2017 |
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tps: im the `if (statusCode == StatusCodes.Created.intValue) { `
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it's been so long since i wrote sql that i can't remember how to do joins good also holy poo poo pgadmin 4's ui on osx is really bad.
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:it's been so long since i wrote sql that i can't remember how to do joins good 
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Also just "JOIN" with no other qualifier is an inner join.
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been playing with tun/tap to write little software that bridges connections and injects failures, delays, netsplits (and asymmetric ones too) here and there and it's being really fun  Next step is to make it work with cross-VMs on a host (shouldn't be hard, rather than a physical proxy) and then it's gonna be deep packet inspection, thinking of either blocking unsafe protocols, or of spoofing NTP packets to cause clock drift and break systems for fun.
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:it's been so long since i wrote sql that i can't remember how to do joins good
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MononcQc posted:been playing with tun/tap to write little software that bridges connections and injects failures, delays, netsplits (and asymmetric ones too) here and there and it's being really fun last time I did that, after finding out there isn't an official client library for the tun/tap device, I literally copy-pasted the entirety of openvpn in my project and commented out code until it compiled and worked
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hackbunny posted:last time I did that, after finding out there isn't an official client library for the tun/tap device, I literally copy-pasted the entirety of openvpn in my project and commented out code until it compiled and worked I'm using a little lib called tunctl that gives an interface to read packets at the ethernet level directly out of the tap device, and then a packet codec for most standard packet formats to operate on them. For the most part I don't need to decode much since a lot of filtering rules can be enabled at a high level, particularly those having to do with just simulating bad lines. So I just open two of these and write the output of one into the other (after transformations applied) and it works pretty well.
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