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RideTheSpiral posted:you say this about every single thing that happens in football. maybe you just don't really know anything about football idk
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Aug 25, 2017 18:18
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Hoops posted:Which team do you support The shittiest one. Lmao.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:19
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Dembele's release clause is 400 million euros lol
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Aug 25, 2017 18:20
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I was surprised and hurt to be on the receiving end of such a comment so I've just re-read all my posts from this thread and I've said I didn't know who someone was like 1-and-a-half times before today. So hey RideTheSpiral, suck my dick haha
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Aug 25, 2017 18:22
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TheBigAristotle posted:Dembele's release clause is 400 million euros lol Like that's gonna stop an oil state if they set their mind on him lmao
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Aug 25, 2017 18:24
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I don't know who any of the Dembele's or Traore's are and I don't care.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:27
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Hoops posted:I was surprised and hurt to be on the receiving end of such a comment so I've just re-read all my posts from this thread and I've said I didn't know who someone was like 1-and-a-half times before today.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:27
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I may be a cockeyed optimist, but I don't think Arsenal struggling to re-sign a bad midfielder for the sole reason that he wants to be told he is a good midfielder is cause for concern.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:42
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Hoops posted:I was surprised and hurt to be on the receiving end of such a comment so I've just re-read all my posts from this thread and I've said I didn't know who someone was like 1-and-a-half times before today. Nice meltdown
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Aug 25, 2017 18:46
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Ox has had chance after chance to prove he isn't a squad level player and hasn't. Maybe it's coaching but I doubt it, let him gently caress off.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:48
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Hoops posted:I was surprised and hurt to be on the receiving end of such a comment so I've just re-read all my posts from this thread and I've said I didn't know who someone was like 1-and-a-half times before today. haha imagine reading all your posts in a block. goondolences
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Aug 25, 2017 18:48
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RideTheSpiral posted:haha imagine reading all your posts in a block. goondolences
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Aug 25, 2017 18:54
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wicka posted:I may be a cockeyed optimist, but I don't think Arsenal struggling to re-sign a bad midfielder for the sole reason that he wants to be told he is a good midfielder is cause for concern. No but not signing their two most important attacking players with a fair portion of the squad also nearing the final year of their contracts might be.
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Aug 25, 2017 18:59
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wicka posted:I may be a cockeyed optimist, but I don't think Arsenal struggling to re-sign a bad midfielder for the sole reason that he wants to be told he is a good midfielder is cause for concern. It's not a problem now, its a problem in the future when he'll be starting after ozil, sanchez and ramsey leave
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Aug 25, 2017 19:02
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rex rabidorum vires posted:No but not signing their two most important attacking players with a fair portion of the squad also nearing the final year of their contracts might be. I mean, they don't wanna sign, I'm not sure what can be done. You can either sell them or keep them. Maybe if people were offering reasonable fees for Sanchez and Ozil in like June, and there were equally reasonable potential replacements on the market, but that was never the case. Sincerely don't see how this was handled poorly. You can't make them sign.
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Aug 25, 2017 19:06
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Jose posted:west brom signed someone 
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Aug 25, 2017 19:09
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wicka posted:You can't make them sign. You can do a better job of making them want to stay. It's hard to say it's not systematic at this point. That said gently caress em all and take some punts on cheap talent (it does still exist when you aren't getting hyped up stars).
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Aug 25, 2017 19:11
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remember when Arsenal had viera and Henry in their primes
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Aug 25, 2017 19:12
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Arsenal should just spend hundreds of millions and reshape the entire team like all the big money clubs, duh
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Aug 25, 2017 19:18
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T Bowl posted:Arsenal should just spend hundreds of millions and reshape the entire team like all the big money clubs, duh They probably should.
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Aug 25, 2017 19:19
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Bea Nanner posted:You can do a better job of making them want to stay. It's hard to say it's not systematic at this point. What is systematic, exactly?
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Aug 25, 2017 19:19
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Gigi Galli posted:They probably should. It came across as sarcastic only because they won't spend that type of money.. I don't know if they actually can or not and won't pretend to.. but I know they won't.
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Aug 25, 2017 19:23
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wicka posted:What is systematic, exactly? players not wanting to stay
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Aug 25, 2017 19:28
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Bea Nanner posted:players not wanting to stay I’m not sure I’m willing to draw a comparison between Fabregas’ Barcelona DNA and Ozil/Sanchez just wanting to win the CL.
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Aug 25, 2017 19:35
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wicka posted:What is systematic, exactly? Players are interested in two things: trophies/awards and money. They'll get more of both going to any of the top EPL teams, Barca/RM/AM, PSG/Monaco or Bayern. Arsenal won't splash money, doesn't have the international fan base, social media presence or rich backers, and isn't likely to find itself deep in the Champions League or at the top of the EPL table post-Dec any time soon. This affects perception of their worth, reduces their endorsement value and wastes productive years of their short career. There isn't any reason for a good player to stay there.
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Aug 25, 2017 19:38
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:The black French Dembele Barcelona are a bunch of cunts.
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Aug 25, 2017 19:43
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Dirk Pitt posted:Barcelona are a bunch of cunts. If this fucks up my fantasy team there will be trouble.
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Aug 25, 2017 20:25
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TheQuietWilds posted:Players are interested in two things: trophies/awards and money. They'll get more of both going to any of the top EPL teams, Barca/RM/AM, PSG/Monaco or Bayern. Arsenal won't splash money, doesn't have the international fan base, social media presence or rich backers, and isn't likely to find itself deep in the Champions League or at the top of the EPL table post-Dec any time soon. This affects perception of their worth, reduces their endorsement value and wastes productive years of their short career. There isn't any reason for a good player to stay there. A few of Arsenal's players are very interested in the London nightlife as well if you know what I mean.
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Aug 25, 2017 20:46
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If Chelsea are really willing to pay £35m for Oxbox Chamberlain then Arsenal should take the money and run. Maybe spend them on some new legs for Wilshere or something.
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Aug 25, 2017 20:52
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So Ox, Wilshere, Sanchez and Ozil all go on a free next season. They should sell one of them surely
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Aug 25, 2017 21:17
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Gigi Galli posted:I don't know who any of the Dembele's or Traore's are and I don't care. I had 3 Traores on my PES master league team at one point and still don't know who any of them are. I think they're all pacey wingers??
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Aug 25, 2017 21:18
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:So Ox, Wilshere, Sanchez and Ozil all go on a free next season. They should sell one of them surely I suspect that they would have sold Ozil and Wilshere if they could find anyone willing to buy them for a decent price.
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Aug 25, 2017 21:23
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:So Ox, Wilshere, Sanchez and Ozil all go on a free next season. They should sell one of them surely They all can go on a free next year, it's pretty unlikely that all four will.
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Aug 25, 2017 21:56
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wicka posted:They all can go on a free next year, it's pretty unlikely that all four will. Are there other clubs contending for the top four with, arguably, their top four best known, marketable players, able to piss off next year for nowt? I genuinely don't know but vaguely hate arsenal so less genuinely believe not.
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Aug 25, 2017 22:10
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Are there other clubs contending for the top four with, arguably, their top four best known, marketable players, able to piss off next year for nowt? The Ox is a squad player and Wilshire hasn't played for them for a long while.
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Aug 25, 2017 22:13
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sassassin posted:The Ox is a squad player and Wilshire hasn't played for them for a long while. Sure, I get that. But they are the players talked about in this thread and elsewhere. and money talks or something? I guess my point might be that if one of the most talker about arsenal players can't get a game for arsenal that means arsenal, infact, suck. i was going to leave it there but thats rude so how has your day been?
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Aug 25, 2017 22:23
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Are there other clubs contending for the top four with, arguably, their top four best known, marketable players, able to piss off next year for nowt? If you think this is a problem, and they refuse to extend their contracts, should they be sold this summer?
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Aug 25, 2017 22:26
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wicka posted:If you think this is a problem, and they refuse to extend their contracts, should they be sold this summer? Are they able to extend their contracts? I think this is probably where the guys talking about the problem being systemic comes in. I'm not criticising arsenal's manoeuvres this trading window (that sounds american), I'm just saying they are hosed and there maybe are no great moves. edit - sorry I realise you meant the players are refusing the contract extension. Yeah? I guess so? I dunno. what do you think? NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Aug 25, 2017 |
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Aug 25, 2017 22:31
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Not sure why the Ox wants to move to Chelsea when he wants to play centre mid and there's no way he'll start there for them.
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Aug 25, 2017 22:33
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Are they able to extend their contracts? In a vacuum I would say the correct decision is to sell them, but the fees being offered are like half of what it'd take to "replace" any of them, and you can't really directly replace talent like Sanchez anyway (even players equally talented still have to bed in with the team/league). Plus, getting back into the Champions League is more important than anything else, which means focusing on the present at the potential expense of the future. So yeah, I think it's just common sense to keep Sanchez and Ozil and hold out some small hope that they can be convinced to re-sign. Ox...idk, he's shown me nothing to suggest he's ever going to be a top quality midfielder, but it still seems dumb to sell him to a direct rival. I think he will probably re-sign after the window closes. And there's really nothing for Arsenal to lose regarding Wilshere.
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Aug 25, 2017 22:40
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