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Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

Just a reminder to new posters in the thread: euphronius is our landlord/tenant specialist, blarzgh is great with any traffic related questions, and Nice Piece of Fish probably decapitated a journalist on his homemade boat. So he's great at maritime law.

U-boat. Allegedly.




E: Also, and by the way, that danish gently caress not only decapitated the poor woman, also dismembered her, punctured her torso to prevent gases from rising the corpse, attached metal to her and loving sunk the blood-filled u-boat to get rid of the evidence. The he proceeded to lie about every single conceivable checkable and provable fact, only admitting to things after he'd been completely exposed. Completely impossible to even suggest mitigating circumstances within danish criminal law, at least that I can see. Two people go out, only one comes back, "I dinn do nuffin" isn't going to cut it.

Dude is going away for a long time, and I don't mean on any more sea voyages.

Nice piece of fish fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Aug 26, 2017

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Asimov
Feb 15, 2016

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Just kind of a general question, I can get into specific jurisdictions if necessary.
I'm thinking of running for office as a constable, which is a key part of the eviction process.

I don't plan on doing anything illegal, but I'm curious, could a sympathetic constable do a lot of good in making sure that tenant rights are always respected? From simple stuff like providing info on tenant rights at the time of eviction, information on how to contact the bar association for a referral etc.? Is it common for evictions to be really screwed up to the point where a careful constable wouldn't go through with it?



Are constables typically permitted to wear badges in rural jurisdictions?

e: because a big-rear end tin badge/belt buckle that says CONSTABLE would be a good way to let people know who's boss.

Asimov fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Aug 26, 2017

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Asimov posted:

Are constables typically permitted to wear badges in rural jurisdictions?

e: because a big-rear end tin badge/belt buckle that says CONSTABLE would be a good way to let people know who's boss.

IIRC elected constables have full police powers in Texas.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

Yes. In order to stand for election they have to have peace officer training stuff. Random Joe in Texas can't just get elected constable. Some rural counties have trouble getting constables, because it pays really poorly. Like 15k and it's a "part time" job. I'm not sure if they're allowed to have other full time employment as a peace officer.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
In fact, I'm probably more of an expert on fish law.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
Less as a question and more for resident lawgoons to lol over:

https://twitter.com/michaelbkiefer/status/901299143917748225

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

I hate everything about this year.

Gumbel2Gumbel fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Aug 26, 2017

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
That signature is exactly what I imagined Trump's signature would look like.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Discendo Vox posted:

Less as a question and more for resident lawgoons to lol over:

What do they usually look like?

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
Is a pardon for "anything that might be charged in the future" actually a thing?

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Javid posted:

Is a pardon for "anything that might be charged in the future" actually a thing?

While there have been pardons for past acts that could have been charged in any way in the future, there have not been any pardons for future illegal acts.
That would be a "permission," not a "pardon" - the definition of pardon requires a prior act to forgive.

e: Maybe the permission for future illegal acts could be shoehorned into some kind of modern letter of marque - but that's a congressional power, not a presidential one.

joat mon fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Aug 27, 2017

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong
The pardon power is also broader than legal vs illegal, but it would never hold up for a future act. Could you imagine a president giving a pardon like that, it would essentially make that person above the law until they died not to mention it would be a inconsistent with the pardon power since the person pardoning the future act wasn't president at the time the pardon was used.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Javid posted:

Is a pardon for "anything that might be charged in the future" actually a thing?

Anything that might be charged in the future connected with the specific case.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

xxEightxx posted:

The pardon power is also broader than legal vs illegal, but it would never hold up for a future act. Could you imagine a president giving a pardon like that, it would essentially make that person above the law until they died not to mention it would be a inconsistent with the pardon power since the person pardoning the future act wasn't president at the time the pardon was used.

It was a minor plot point in Tom Clancy's opus Teeth of the Tiger; the commando-assassins had fill-in-the-blank pardons signed by former president Jack Ryan.

...Clancy got weird after the wall came down.

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong
Interestingly you lose the power of pleading the fifth once pardoned.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Someone on Twitter (Sopan Deb?) said that accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt, which can be used in a civil case. Is that true?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Subjunctive posted:

Someone on Twitter (Sopan Deb?) said that accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt, which can be used in a civil case. Is that true?

It carries an implicit admission of guilt according to dicta from the relevant SCOTUS case. How this will play out in civil court is yet to be seen.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Which one of you guys is this?

Jeb Bush 2012
Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.
iirc there's a goon who's a lawyer for the texas state government, so probably that guy

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong
He's in la his billboards are all over

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

iirc there's a goon who's a lawyer for the texas state government, so probably that guy

Yes it's me, Jacob.

Arban
Aug 28, 2017
Lawyers, what is your professional opinion on this document: https://www.scribd.com/document/355291378/ACLU-Brief-on-Behalf-of-John-Oliver#download&from_embed ?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

It appears to be a PDF version of an amicus brief .

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014


What is it? Nobody is going to read that for you.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

It came up a few weeks ago. I thought it was probably the most fun anyone has had writing an amicus brief.

spacetoaster posted:

What is it? Nobody is going to read that for you.

It's the "Anyone Can Legally Say "Eat poo poo, Bob!"" Brief supporting John Oliver.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Anyone up for some fiction lawyering? I was rewatching Silicon Valley with my girlfriend (as she had never seen it) and the ending of Season 2 had me wondering. For those that aren't familiar - the setup is that the main character left the tech company he worked for because he had an awesome algorithm and started his own business. Said business was sued by the first company saying they owned the IP of the algorithm. The entire scene hinged on the fact that he had run one test on the algorithm using a company computer, instead of the personal laptop he had been using.

Does this pass muster? Could one write an employment contract such that using any company property, just once, in a very small capacity in the furthering of your own project means that the entire project's IP belongs completely to your employer? It seems suspect at best, but I guess they're Hollywood writers, not lawyers. There's another piece where the case was decided in the favor of the defendant because another unrelated part of the employment contract (non-compete) was found to be unenforceable and so that invalidated the entire contract. I know THAT part is wrong (the rest of the contract would still be valid AFAIK), but I'm not sure about the IP part.

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong
It would probably be more of an issue of what facts you could muster to show that the algorithm wasn't developed on company time or with company resources or otherwise resulted from the employment itself. I doubt a single use would be enough to satisfy that showing.

You could probably enter into a contract that made that a presumptive element, or prohibited outside work related to the employment. But just using a computer once to compile some code when you are a receptionist, for e.g., probably won't get you there.

MonkeyBot
Mar 11, 2005

OMG ITZ MONKEYBOT
Also lol at a company in California wasting their time with a non-compete.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

MonkeyBot posted:

Also lol at a company in California wasting their time with a non-compete.

Could you elaborate? In the DC area basically all the software development jobs come with non competes even though loving everybody is a government contractor and thus in competition.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Could you elaborate? In the DC area basically all the software development jobs come with non competes even though loving everybody is a government contractor and thus in competition.

I think non-competes are unenforceable or illegal in CA

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

My company, and I'd image other tech companies too, have a clause that basically says that any IP developed by an employee is owned by the company even if they did it on their own time and hardware.

null_pointer
Nov 9, 2004

Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop.

Xenoborg posted:

My company, and I'd image other tech companies too, have a clause that basically says that any IP developed by an employee is owned by the company even if they did it on their own time and hardware.

Holy poo poo. So if I work for a software company and, at night, went home and came up with a new technology that allowed me to masturbate hands-free, your company would own that new tech? There's no common-sense restriction saying that the employee's idea has to exist in the same logical space?

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

null_pointer posted:

Holy poo poo. So if I work for a software company and, at night, went home and came up with a new technology that allowed me to masturbate hands-free, your company would own that new tech? There's no common-sense restriction saying that the employee's idea has to exist in the same logical space?

Ah, the realization that capitalism is a bad system of social organization because you're so easily alienated from the fruits of your own genitals

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Isn't that basically what happened with Wozniak? He was working at HP at the same time that he was helping develop the Apple computer, and because of that he had to offer the company a chance to pick it up - they thought it was worthless and turned it down, so then he was free to run with it on his own/with Jobs. I know that he offered it to them and they turned it down, but I seem to recall the IP development from the older movie about the history of the company (not one of the newer ones).

null_pointer
Nov 9, 2004

Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop.

Like, this is completely unchallenged and unchallengeable? No courts have gone "yeah, the guy came up with a new pizza oven and you're a telecommunications company. You have no valid claim to the employee's idea."

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Xenoborg posted:

My company, and I'd image other tech companies too, have a clause that basically says that any IP developed by an employee is owned by the company even if they did it on their own time and hardware.

:catstare:

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

null_pointer posted:

Like, this is completely unchallenged and unchallengeable? No courts have gone "yeah, the guy came up with a new pizza oven and you're a telecommunications company. You have no valid claim to the employee's idea."

The employee signed a contract saying that the company has a claim, though.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

I think there are some states that have their own restrictions on it (much like CA and non-competes) that require the employer show some sort of company stake in the development through their equipment/resources/information/etc., but I have definitely seen 'everything you make while you're here, even out of popsicle sticks with your son on the weekend, is ours' contracts before.

null_pointer
Nov 9, 2004

Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop.

Jesus. Late-stage capitalism is a real motherfucker.

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xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

null_pointer posted:

Jesus. Late-stage capitalism is a real motherfucker.

Get the gently caress out.

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