Scruffpuff posted:

Example of it done correctly:

Combat Theory posted:

IFCS is a strictly high order system. This means it doesn't care for details like mechanical parameters. You tell the ifcs "how something moves" not what keeps it moving that way. This means the entire mechanical simulation is floating. It's parameters don't matter. What matters is how you envision something to look like and the IFCS will use whatever it has available to achieve that movement pattern. This means that a spring might force 10 kilonewton between its ends at a certain compression, but when it gets compressed more it suddenly goes down to 0.1 kilonewton. This behavior is impossible for a spring, it goes against what a mechanical spring would ever do. But it is what the IFCS tells the spring to do in order to achieve a certain movement pattern.
This focus on the movement instead of mechanics is very similar to how a drone like a quadrocopter works, or a robotic arm. This kind of aproach to a full on vehicle simulation though, apart from the very strictly limited realm of zero G spaceflight, will always result in nightmarish and unsatisfying driving and flight behavior.

Mirificus posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCtdyNFwQWo

trucutru posted:

I would buy it just to totally gently caress with the role-players by making stupid faces.

More likely there would be a way to hack the commands to make some specific dumb faces, all the fun, none of the cost.

Mirificus posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCtdyNFwQWo

Mirificus posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCtdyNFwQWo

runsamok posted:

This isn't the way Big Benny machines or any of the floating debris works though. It's all entirely generated client-side & the server knows diddly-squat about it moment-to-moment.

2.6.3 Live: One player pushes a glowing noodle machine only they can see.

3.1 Gamescom Demo: One player has a conversation with an NPC only they can see & then goes to get a box that once again, only they can see.

No fancy server infrastructure or bespoke code or whatever needed, just CIG being CIG & cutting corners the same way they have been for years.

WarpDogs posted:

Here's my attempt at a summary

* Began with a 45min delay + 3 or 4 commercials for chariots
* New features (facial recognition, voice stuff) introduced then promptly revealed to be coming after 3.0, not with it
* After warping to the quest destination, the pilot's client crashed. The other two players were still in the ship but couldn't interact with it
* After 10 minutes of awkward troubleshooting they eventually had to restart. Cue another 15-20 minutes of mostly silence and long shots of a black room and an increasingly angry Chris as the demo is rebooted
* Because the demo was nearly 100% scripted, they had to do everything all over again leading up to the warp crash
* this included the world's worst RP of all time. yes, they still repeated the RP in the 2nd attempt
* They get to the planet. it's janky. a ton of pop-in and missing models. We all begin to notice that the lighting / colors for each player (they keep switching cameras) is completely different. It's suggested that even the time of day for players is different
* They find the quest object - a ship's black box which turned out to be a red cube that was just laying in a random spot on the floor
* Then they were ambushed, surprising nobody
* They shot the bad guy's ship out of the air from their moon rover, but they clearly weren't even aiming at the guy and it was a really embarrassing moment of scripting
* An Idris comes to save them, and jitter-janks its way to the surface. It extends a ramp for the rover to climb, and the entire thread knew at once it was going to end in disaster. It did. After many failed attempts the rover clipped through the ramp and exploded. The wheels literally fell off and rolled toward the camera, and I very nearly blacked out in laughter
* also the red black box was aboard the rover but nobody acknowledged the mission was a failure
* Sometime after this we cut to a commercial for an RSI-branded webcam. Lots of scare tactics to make you think your existing webcam lacks the horsepower to handle Star Citizen's new facial stuff
* Later, the Idris goes to space and is ambushed a 2nd time, surprising nobody for a 2nd time
* An epic space battle ensues as two goliaths fight through 6-7fps space and jitter-jank into one another. One explodes
* It's the end of the demo. Chris then has a sudden and definitely not scripted idea - let's let the goliaths fight again, but this time the bad guy could win!
* It's another 20 minutes waiting for the really obviously fake and scripted demo to spin up. It's awkward silence. Sandi wanders on stage in her weird clown outfit to give Chris a rum and coke
* The epic space battle begins anew. I cannot notice a single difference, other than a fighter bounces off the hull of the Idris like a Loony Toons cartoon, and the idris rams the bad guy who explodes in 6-7fps fashion. More jitter-jank

Then Chris ends the presentation prematurely before being reminded that the employees are coming out to say goodbye. He asks them to take a bow. They do so. that's it

Foo Diddley posted:

My god, it's full of stores

Quavers posted:

"Chris, we should lock down the featureset for Star Citizen's MVP release in 2020, the scope is large enough"

"I can't do that Dave"

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I started to reply, then realized I don't give a poo poo and these idiots deserve to be scammed. They won't learn, they won't care, and it's not worth the effort.

Mirificus posted:

IncredibleIgloo posted:

Came here to post this. I love these self destructing remindmes.

D_Smart posted:

GAMESCOM 2017 – CHRIS ROBERTS STAR CITIZEN PRESENTATION

As I mentioned in my GC2017 coverage, I am currently writing an article about Chris's presentation, and will post it soon. I don't even know where to begin with it, but suffice to say, that presentation had some unexpected results which solidified my opinions that this game can NEVER been made, and that the project is FUBAR. In fact, PC Invasion has the best summary so far of the disaster that unfolded before our eyes. You can view the full presentation blooper reel below. It contains most of the presentation highlights of Chris's carefully scripted demo mission fails. Yes, this is a six year project developed by over 500 people (both past and present), and which has thus far raised (and probably burned through) over $156M in crowd-funding alone. I have also made public a private (industry friends and peers) post which I made on Facebook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azZ0WqhM_ps

smellmycheese posted:

In case you missed it - here is the complete presentation accompanied by audio of Goons laughing their asses off, and Derek Smart shouting "I FUCKIN CALLED IT"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=3DCbvu-uF4o

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/FacewareTech/status/901206984476811264

Taintrunner posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ3TSJIljy8

So the fuckin' youtube shills fell for Roberts' hustle, hook line and sinker.

"As a Youtuber, and content creator,"

his nibs posted:

Foo Diddley posted:

My god, it's full of stores

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/901231040622153731

smellmycheese posted:

In case you missed it - here is the complete presentation accompanied by audio of Goons laughing their asses off, and Derek Smart shouting "I FUCKIN CALLED IT"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=3DCbvu-uF4o

Scruffpuff posted:

I hadn't even thought of this. CIG invents yet another way for people to guarantee their immersion is broken at all times. Can't wait to start bunnyhopping all over the mission terminals while gritting my teeth and flailing my lips around like Billy Idol.

trucutru posted:

I would buy it just to totally gently caress with the role-players by making stupid faces.

The Titanic posted:

So just out of curiosity, but are any backers upset with the fact that CIG spent another year building out their 3.0 demo from last year instead of actually making the game where the things they scripted could happen for real?

They built demo 3.0.1, and "janky planet level" in a year. There is no gameplay added, unless you can count that eventually you'll get render to texture, and webcam face capturing.