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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > GOT SPOILER Thread: Get a fucking life. It's only tits and dragons.

TOOT BOOT: May 25, 2010

One reason I think the spoilers are fake is that Howland Reed shows up for no loving reason when his narrative purpose has already been exhausted. I really doubt they'd waste time on that poo poo with 6 episodes left.

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# ? May 25, 2024 01:05

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

lezard_valeth posted:

That was an option, until Team Good Incest gave the NK a dragon, so even if his undead can't swim, he can just fly over a random poo poo town in Essos, kill everyone and start a new undead army branch.

Literally, Team Good Incest didn't just gently caress Westeros, they hosed the whole world.

Ah yeah. You fuckin idiots!

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:00

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Braavosi star wars programme when?

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:01

Rotacixe: Oct 21, 2008

Jon: This is serious. I wouldn't be here if it weren't.
Cersei: I don't think it is serious at all. I think it is another bad joke. They really hosed up casting your character.

---

Jon: A general you can't negotiate with...
Cersei raises her hand. The Night King steps in and sits beside her. The baby Cersei is carrying is his.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:03

Propaganda Machine: Jan 2, 2005; Truthiness!

bbf2 posted:

The real spoiler leaks for the last few seasons have all come from extras, on set location people etc, we've never gotten leaked info from people getting access to the scripts early. They haven't started filming season 8 yet. What you read was some guy on 4Chan's fanfiction attempting to replicate the style of the real previous leaks because he had way too much time on his hands and wanted to trick people. A 4Channer that loves Euron and hates Dany. I will give my hats off to that guy, he did a convincing job writing it in a really elaborate way to try to trick people and for the most part its pretty consistent. He really made it seem like a script that resulted from the way the show is made now (hack frauds D&D summarizing and rushing between bullet points of a better story that GRRM told them.)

There are a couple mistakes here and there that give it away, however. The most major seeming one is that Theon apparently dies in episode 2 but then shows back up later in the last episode with Yara to deliver the news that Jon et all exploded, although that could be explained away by the fact that in the latter scene the transcriber accidentally typed "Theon" instead of "Bronn." Also the writer seems to include that somehow Nymeria factors into the endgame and she travels with Arya and the Hound into King's Landing but then apparently disappears. Also it doesn't contain any details about how Nymeria reconnects with Arya at any point. I don't trust D&D at all and I think they suck, (and I believe that they would do a lot of the stupid poo poo described in the S8 writeup, like having Dany die in childbirth and then have yokels throw feces at their corpse, I totally buy that they would have that happen) but having a giant wolf somehow surreptitiously sneak into King's Landing through the front gate seems a bit much even for them.

He obviously read the S7 leak spoilers beforehand and based a lot of his fake S8 script based on that before he actually watched the final two episodes of the season. The S7 leaks we got from extras/location people were accurate, but they omitted some details here and there, especially regarding scenes that happened in enclosed spaces with just a few actors. For example, there wasn't anything in the S7 leaks about the scene from last episode where Tyrion is talking to Dany about succession and mentions the way that the Night's Watch and Ironborn elect leaders - to me, I feel like that scene highly implies that the endgame includes at least some sort of prototypical attempt at an eventual democracy/republic for Westeros. In addition, the accurate S7 leaks omitted a few details about Cersei's plan and Jaime's departure from tonight's episode, they did not include the detail that Cersei pledged to send the Lannister army north to help fight. They include a scene where Jaime and Bronn meet at a tavern and Jaime is surprised to see him there showing up to help. But tonight's episode ends with Bronn and the majority of the Lannister army believing that they were legitimately going to march north and only Jaime knew about the duplicitous betrayal privately, so there's no reason for Jaime to be surprised to see Bronn there like the fake S8 spoilers seem to suggest.

Even if you're correct, you've spent more time and thought on this than that 4channer, who in turn did more than D&D.

I don't even know who to mock anymore.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:04

lezard_valeth: Mar 14, 2016

Rotacixe posted:

Jon: This is serious. I wouldn't be here if it weren't.
Cersei: I don't think it is serious at all. I think it is another bad joke. They really hosed up casting your character.

---

Jon: A general you can't negotiate with...
Cersei raises her hand. The Night King steps in and sits beside her. The baby Cersei is carrying is his.

I repeat it. Jon Snuh's dialogue this episode was terrible. Every speech he gave sounded as if he was trying to be a facebook banner from the time when people put random and out of place inspirational quotes on their banners.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:07

Propaganda Machine: Jan 2, 2005; Truthiness!

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Klungar posted:

I assume there will be an appropriate edit of this within 24 hours.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:10

lezard_valeth: Mar 14, 2016

I am waiting for poorly edited Blue Eyed Wight Dragon Yu-Gi-Oh cards now that we had a better look at it.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:12

evilmiera: Dec 14, 2009; Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Demiurge4 posted:

Was Tyrion supposed to look jealous? I couldn't figure out what his deal was.

More like frustrated and scared. "Oh boy, here we go again, it's my sister and brother all over again. How are they going to gently caress things up NOW?"

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:13

Accretionist: Nov 7, 2012; I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Why didn't they have archers with obsidian arrowheads?

This show sucks

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:20

Chickenwalker: Apr 21, 2011; by FactsAreUseless

Westeros Wiki posted:

At the Wall, when gazing into the fires, Melisandre sees a wooden face, corpse white, a thousand red eyes, and a boy with a wolf's head beside him. She thinks to herself that they must be the Great Other's champions, as King Stannis is hers.

Further evidence in the text ties the Last Greenseer, Brynden Rivers, the Old Gods, and Bran Stark to the theme of darkness that draws The Great Other into opposition with R'hllor. The vision of Melisandre pointing towards Bloodraven and Bran as champions of The Great Other is corroborated in this exchange:
�There he sat, listening to the hoarse whispers of his teacher. 'Never fear the darkness, Bran.' The lord's words were accompanied by a faint rustling of wood and leaf, a slight twisting of his head. "The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong."

I thought there was more to the pregnant pause that's there when the Night King confronts Max von Sydow in the tree. We tellingly never see him actually die, we just see him vanish in Bran's vision. I've got this feeling that the theory that Bran has some connection with the White Walkers is true. He's never specifically said since his training that he's opposed to them.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:21

drunken officeparty: Aug 23, 2006

Bran has never explicitly condemned cancer, possibly pro-cancer??

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:52

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Rotacixe posted:

Jon: A general you can't negotiate with...
Cersei: You mean like your Dragon Queen, who will not negotiate but expects my unconditional surrender once the threat in the North is dealt with? Also I heard of this guy Craster who actually succesfully negotiated with the NK and got to live in his happy incest castle.

FTFY

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:57

GABA ghoul: Oct 29, 2011

so, how poo poo was it? plz only rough quantiles, I don't want to get spoilered

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:58

bbf2: Nov 22, 2007; "The White Shadow"

Propaganda Machine posted:

Even if you're correct, you've spent more time and thought on this than that 4channer, who in turn did more than D&D.

I don't even know who to mock anymore.

Mock D&D. That's always the right answer.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 09:59

kater: Nov 16, 2010

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

so, how poo poo was it? plz only rough quantiles, I don't want to get spoilered

if the rest of the season was 60% poo poo, this was a strong 90%.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 10:13

Funky See Funky Do: Aug 20, 2013; STILL TRYING HARD

Is there some kind of after show thing where they explain at exactly what point Arya and Sansa figured out all of Littlefinger's poo poo? Was it before the scene where she was talking to him about Arya possibly being out to kill her? Was it the whole time? Did Bran just tell Sansa and Arya a minute before the trial started?

I can't think of an answer that isn't retarded.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 10:19

emanresu tnuocca: Sep 2, 2011; by Athanatos

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Is there some kind of after show thing where they explain at exactly what point Arya and Sansa figured out all of Littlefinger's poo poo? Was it before the scene where she was talking to him about Arya possibly being out to kill her? Was it the whole time? Did Bran just tell Sansa and Arya a minute before the trial started?

I can't think of an answer that isn't retarded.

I don't remember everything Sansa said but I assumed she just ran a search query through BranBot?

# ? Aug 28, 2017 10:23

Demiurge4: Aug 10, 2011

I think Arya knew all along. Sansa only figured it out when Littlefinger played the game with her.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 10:23

Andrigaar: Dec 12, 2003; Saint of Killers

The spoilers obviously blew out the "big reveals", but this show has degraded to a high budget soap opera and I still don't care that I read them. For contrast I was upset that I read tonight's Twin Peaks spoiler ~2 weeks ago when I misread a link description in that thread.

It's sad that the season finale was just a series of bullet points spoken out loud with little to no build up. It was DBZ Abridged. But everyone on my Facebook feed had collective orgasms slightly offset by internet outages and cable provider issues, so this thread is where most of the unimpressed people are.

Sorry, thread. Gotta remind you all that this is prestige TV at the moment.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 10:38

Funky See Funky Do: Aug 20, 2013; STILL TRYING HARD

So why the didn't either of them say something earlier? Everything that happened in Winterfell this season was done entirely to set up this dumb fake out scene whether it made any sense or not.

:psyduck:

:psyduck:

# ? Aug 28, 2017 10:38

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

I for one really enjoyed sitting back and watching LF get owned.

There were tits, there were dragons, the characters we wanted to see together again together agained, the good actors acted against each other, and there was a big holy poo poo that was cool moment at the end.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 10:43

Rotacixe: Oct 21, 2008

Funky See Funky Do posted:

So why the didn't either of them say something earlier? Everything that happened in Winterfell this season was done entirely to set up this dumb fake out scene whether it made any sense or not.

Come on now. There is no harm in letting a mastermind schemer roam around longer than necessary.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 10:45

massive spider: Dec 6, 2006

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Is there some kind of after show thing where they explain at exactly what point Arya and Sansa figured out all of Littlefinger's poo poo? Was it before the scene where she was talking to him about Arya possibly being out to kill her? Was it the whole time? Did Bran just tell Sansa and Arya a minute before the trial started?

I can't think of an answer that isn't retarded.

I presume she actually took Littlefingers "assume the worst possible motivation" speech to heart and applied it to him.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 10:58

drunken officeparty: Aug 23, 2006

He really had no endgame goal, did he. If it was to marry Cat then Sansa, he sure sucked at it. Then this master schemer and liar gets bested by two young girls and dies like a bitch.

At least Varys knew from the start that what he wanted was peace through Dany. Although he is just a background decoration now, I don't even remember if he has had a single line all season.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 11:06

Funky See Funky Do: Aug 20, 2013; STILL TRYING HARD

massive spider posted:

I presume she actually took Littlefingers "assume the worst possible motivation" speech to heart and applied it to him.

That's what's implied in the scene, yeah. Which means that she then went to Bran and asked for dirt on Littlefinger. It's at this point and only at this point that Bran decides to clue her in that Littlefinger was behind their family's downfall the whole time.

It's been established for like 2 seasons now that she doesn't trust him and knows he's up to something but apparently never bothered to follow up on any of those suspicions until that one conversation.

A scene where she went to Bran and asked him to tell her about Littlefinger, and her reaction to finding out that he's responsible for her family's downfall could have been a really good scene - but it would have spoiled their dumbass fake out scene.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 11:11

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# ? Aug 28, 2017 11:21

Gorn Myson: Aug 8, 2007

Technically there's no resolution to the Stark drama either. One minute they're at each others throat the next minute they're cutting Littlefinger's.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 11:24

Alkabob: May 31, 2011; I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

So saw "leaks for season 8" and they are fake. To much of the source material gets ignored and too obvious even if the fat man didn't write the last book yet. For example that part where Maggy the Frog tells Cersi her younger brother will kill her. If I recall correctly that wasn't some Valerian prophecy where genders and such can be fudged.

Besides who says it has to be her little brother? Remember how Bran could warg into Hodor, well why not the zombie Mountain? So she gets choked about by the mind controlled Mountain via Bran, the little brother.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 11:28

drunken officeparty: Aug 23, 2006

If you think about it, not a lot of Starks or Lannisters have died from their ~blood feud~

Only Ned, Rob and Cat were killed directly by the others

# ? Aug 28, 2017 11:31

emanresu tnuocca: Sep 2, 2011; by Athanatos

Scooter_McCabe posted:

So saw "leaks for season 8" and they are fake. To much of the source material gets ignored and too obvious even if the fat man didn't write the last book yet. For example that part where Maggy the Frog tells Cersi her younger brother will kill her. If I recall correctly that wasn't some Valerian prophecy where genders and such can be fudged.

Besides who says it has to be her little brother? Remember how Bran could warg into Hodor, well why not the zombie Mountain? So she gets choked about by the mind controlled Mountain via Bran, the little brother.

Yes, stuff that was intentionally cut from the show back in season 4 is ignored in the leaks\fakes.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 11:38

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK: Sep 11, 2001

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Is there some kind of after show thing where they explain at exactly what point Arya and Sansa figured out all of Littlefinger's poo poo? Was it before the scene where she was talking to him about Arya possibly being out to kill her? Was it the whole time? Did Bran just tell Sansa and Arya a minute before the trial started?

I can't think of an answer that isn't retarded.

Bran told them. They were that retarded.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 11:41

BigglesSWE: Dec 2, 2014; How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Nuebot posted:

Maybe they have proximity bombs and if they get too close they both explode. This show is actually their challenge by the SAW guy.

My favorite fan theory by far.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 11:55

Decius: Oct 14, 2005; Ramrod XTreme

Scooter_McCabe posted:

So saw "leaks for season 8" and they are fake. To much of the source material gets ignored and too obvious even if the fat man didn't write the last book yet. For example that part where Maggy the Frog tells Cersi her younger brother will kill her. If I recall correctly that wasn't some Valerian prophecy where genders and such can be fudged.

I think the spoilers are fake as hell, but they left the Valonquar thing out in the TV version. Maggy only talks about her three children dying.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:07

C-SPAN Caller: Apr 21, 2010

So how many episodes we at now with no Ghost

# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:10

Kopijeger: Feb 14, 2010

Why bring Davos and Jorah along yet give them no lines?

# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:12

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

Because actors that good don't need lines to convey emotions and intent. That whole "come on pod" line was unnecessary, and unless you know the in-joke behind it would have seemed like it was written for a school play.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:20

Chef Boyardeez Nuts: Sep 9, 2011; The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

I will lol if Lyanna Moremont's plane is shot down over the sea on the way to bear island.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:27

drunken officeparty: Aug 23, 2006

Shoulda brought Gendry and been like "hey cersei you missed one of roberts sons lol"

# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:31

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# ? May 25, 2024 01:05

VanillaGorilla: Oct 2, 2003

People probably shouldn't take those "leaked" s8 scripts too seriously - there are some pretty major internal inconsistencies in them. For example, they have Howland Reid both dying in ep. 3 and also having scenes with Jon in ep. 4 (non-flashback). It's pretty clearly someone's fan fiction produced after reading the S7 spoilers.

# ? Aug 28, 2017 12:32

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