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doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Found out about this from this thread, KeyGenMusic.net is the archive.org of keygen music. It's if you want the "pure" keygenmusic experience by playing the tracker files directly: http://keygenmusic.net/

And I use XMPlay to play the music: http://www.un4seen.com/

What I kinda dig about the tracker files is that they take up very little space. A little under 5,000 songs takes up about 600MB.

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Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007
Thanks for the keygen stuff guys.

I grabbed this list

Powered Descent posted:

e: Here, I'll make it easy. Get this from pastebin, save it as filelist.txt: https://pastebin.com/pE1ziZp0
and stuck it in two public Google music playlists (playlist size capped out at 1000 files) for anyone who, like me, has issues with the web player on http://keygenjukebox.net/

Playlist 1
Playlist 2

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Foxhound posted:

Thanks for the keygen stuff guys.

I grabbed this list

and stuck it in two public Google music playlists (playlist size capped out at 1000 files) for anyone who, like me, has issues with the web player on http://keygenjukebox.net/

Playlist 1
Playlist 2

my GMusic may just be being an rear end in a top hat, but they're blank when loaded.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


On the music thing, what is the best player for mp3 collections? I've got files from before napster, audio galaxy and soulseek right up to now - so quite a library. I've been on winamp for over a decade - but heard good things about foobar and mediamonkey?

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Humphreys posted:

On the music thing, what is the best player for mp3 collections? I've got files from before napster, audio galaxy and soulseek right up to now - so quite a library. I've been on winamp for over a decade - but heard good things about foobar and mediamonkey?

I use foobar personally but a lot of people seem to like MusicBee.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


XMPlay is my player of choice but I don't have an organized library on it.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I should probably clarify my needs. If it's album it's structures by folder per album. I wouldn't mind cover art linking. Multiple playlists in a list aside from main library. So many of my files have hosed ID3 tags from previous programs so something that scraps that data would be nice too.

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

any modern day player has all of that

Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

I love my Sonos. It's loving pricey, but when I bought my new house I splurged and bought a whole system. I don't run ANY music off my PC now, it's all on a NAS in the basement that the Sonos can access.

All of my other tech requires endless configuring/puttering around with, but the Sonos just works.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
If your MP3s are from before napster, they are probably poo poo quality and you should get new ones.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Cojawfee posted:

If your MP3s are from before napster, they are probably poo poo quality and you should get new ones.

Hey, screw you man, my complete Weird Al (not Weird Al really) library is in perfect 64kb quality!

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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HISTORY_OF_FUCK_(WEIRD_AL).MP3

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Cojawfee posted:

If your MP3s are from before napster, they are probably poo poo quality and you should get new ones.

Dude, those are vintage mp3s, they have a lot more of that warm analog sound

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007
I have MP3 files that I initially got more than 15 years ago. I have no idea where I would even begin to look for them if I wanted to replace them today.

I mean they have been copied from old harddrive to new a couple of times so they're not the same, but they're the same!

Frozen Pizza Party posted:

my GMusic may just be being an rear end in a top hat, but they're blank when loaded.
I dunno, if someone else could try as well so I knew if it was on mine or your end it'd help.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Foxhound posted:

I dunno, if someone else could try as well so I knew if it was on mine or your end it'd help.

blank for me too

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Foxhound posted:

I mean they have been copied from old harddrive to new a couple of times so they're not the same, but they're the same!

Goddamn, I'm jealous. Bricked my unbackedup hard drive in 2014 and now I have basically no collection. 12 gigs lost, like tears in the rain. A lot of it is stuff that probably no longer available, like album releases from Musician's Lounge or poo poo like the Geno cult album from the Habbo raiding days.

It was what pushed me into building up a vinyl library, but I only have like 20 albums so far due to being a cheap bastard.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

iTunes Match will turn those crusty old Napster MP3s into 256kbps VBR AAC files

Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Dude, those are vintage mp3s, they have a lot more of that warm analog sound

:golfclap:

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007

Efexeye posted:

blank for me too

Alright turns out it wasn't as simple as I thought and I can't share those playlists after all. Sorry!

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Foxhound posted:

Alright turns out it wasn't as simple as I thought and I can't share those playlists after all. Sorry!

pretty sure I'd have to own those songs already for them to show up in that playlist

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Nice to see Laxy Game Reviews reviewing, you know, games again. At the worst it was maybe one game a month he was reviewing.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I enjoy his ever growing contempt for The Sims.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

oohhboy posted:

I enjoy his ever growing contempt for The Sims.

My brother and his wife were really into The Sims and they basically came to the same conclusion that it was obvious maxis was phoning some expansions in.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
XCOM 2 War of the Chosen is an expansion. From his reviews Sims content is only a step or two away from being horse armour.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Grand Prize Winner posted:

Dude, those are vintage mp3s, they have a lot more of that warm analog sound

Hahaha well done!

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Lo-Fi mp3 you say?

http://brotherandroid.com/album/space-hymns-2013-space-theodicy-edition

quote:

To obtain a sonically correct copy:
1. Download the Bandcamp release in the file format of your choice, and convert to 24 kbps MP3 format; or
2. Download the release here, already downsampled for maximum warmth & splendor: dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6497403/space_hymns_complete_24kbps.zip

Originally: https://web.archive.org/web/20131110045707/http://brotherandroid.110mb.com/satellite.html

I dunno, I liked it enough to order a physical CD of it.

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Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004


I pray for death

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
I am not going to lie, though I think the idea of nostalgia for early poo poo quality .MP3s is weird, I also would rather hear memorable 1990s television commercial jingles in terrible quality like I finally managed to tape them off my local FOX affiliate.

O. K. and I just thought of Vaporwave. Oh no. I am ruining music

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Early MP3s with bad encoding sounded like they were being replayed in a tin can so unless you had Terminator ears there's no way anyone is missing that noise. You can't even hide behind the bad Colour/Flavor/Warmth/Fullness audiophile BS.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I too miss the "warmth" of every drum and sometimes guitar sounding like a trash lid ride cymbal

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Before my MP3 collection it was midi. I think my go to site was Fresh Midis which soon went down from a copyright claim.

Back then trying to play an MP3 on a Pentium 90 while trying to use word was impossible without stuttering.

There's a great book called how music got free that details the story of music filesharing.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

FilthyImp posted:

Early MP3s with bad encoding sounded like they were being replayed in a tin can so unless you had Terminator ears there's no way anyone is missing that noise. You can't even hide behind the bad Colour/Flavor/Warmth/Fullness audiophile BS.

I don't miss the noise, but when I hear my old MP3s it reminds me of the lovely quality stuff I copied off everyone's public Windows shares in college, or got off Napster.

Funnily enough, if you compare the number of songs I downloaded to the number of songs they inspired me to legally purchase on CD, I think the record companies ought to be pretty happy.

Don't people also get nostalgic about listening to songs on AM? Not "I dislike high fidelity stereo", just "I remember hearing this song in mono through lovely speakers on the way to..."

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Buttcoin purse posted:

I don't miss the noise, but when I hear my old MP3s it reminds me of the lovely quality stuff I copied off everyone's public Windows shares in college, or got off Napster.

Funnily enough, if you compare the number of songs I downloaded to the number of songs they inspired me to legally purchase on CD, I think the record companies ought to be pretty happy.

Don't people also get nostalgic about listening to songs on AM? Not "I dislike high fidelity stereo", just "I remember hearing this song in mono through lovely speakers on the way to..."

I kind of miss talk radio for this reason

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

There was a point where I'd download MP3s to the PC at the call center where I worked, put them on a 100MB Zip cartridge connected to my manager's computer, and take 'em home, where I had no internet access, but a functioning parallel port Zip drive (which I still own and have not fired up in about 20 years).

I had a copy of Metallica's Enter Sandman with a loud BLIP about halfway through that I still anticipate on the rare occasions I actually hear that song nowadays.

On another topic, watching any Techmoan video reminds me of how I will never jump on any format bandwagon, no matter how studied and precious it might appear in the moment.

Back to low quality audio sound, Sleepbot still uses the Netshow codec to broadcast its feed: http://sleepbot.com/ambience/broadcast/faq.html#BANDWIDTH

quote:

What's with the super-low-end 56kB bandwidth?
I'm broadcasting at 56K + 22050 Hz for several reasons.

One, it was the maximum standard coded provided by Microsoft's public-license version of NetShow. I continue to use this ancient compressor because it's very high quality for its bandwidth and the compression takes very little CPU overhead. I've tried using LAME and OddCast, but they can really drain on processor time and I've found the quality to be marginal. That may be a thing of the past, but it was so for quite a while.

In my college days I'd record the stream with a Winamp plugin, copy the 56k MP3's to a 128MB iRiver player with a program that would randomize copying to such a device, and listen to them while studying. I guess that was my version of listening to a Vaporwave YouTube thing on a smartphone.

doctorfrog has a new favorite as of 08:47 on Aug 27, 2017

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Buttcoin purse posted:

I don't miss the noise, but when I hear my old MP3s it reminds me of the lovely quality stuff I copied off everyone's public Windows shares in college, or got off Napster.

Funnily enough, if you compare the number of songs I downloaded to the number of songs they inspired me to legally purchase on CD, I think the record companies ought to be pretty happy.

Don't people also get nostalgic about listening to songs on AM? Not "I dislike high fidelity stereo", just "I remember hearing this song in mono through lovely speakers on the way to..."

I used to listen to reruns of Phil Hendrie at night on AM radio when I was in high school.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Star Man posted:

I used to listen to reruns of Phil Hendrie at night on AM radio when I was in high school.

Painbow?

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

Dr. Quarex posted:

I am not going to lie, though I think the idea of nostalgia for early poo poo quality .MP3s is weird, I also would rather hear memorable 1990s television commercial jingles in terrible quality like I finally managed to tape them off my local FOX affiliate.

O. K. and I just thought of Vaporwave. Oh no. I am ruining music

I'll do you one better: '80s TV themes and commercials, in glorious Real Media!

Regular Nintendo posted:

I kind of miss talk radio for this reason

AM talk radio with generous helpings of reverb, like Limbaugh broadcasting from the Cave of the Swallows

0toShifty
Aug 21, 2005
0 to Stiffy?

Buttcoin purse posted:

I don't miss the noise, but when I hear my old MP3s it reminds me of the lovely quality stuff I copied off everyone's public Windows shares in college, or got off Napster.

Funnily enough, if you compare the number of songs I downloaded to the number of songs they inspired me to legally purchase on CD, I think the record companies ought to be pretty happy.

Don't people also get nostalgic about listening to songs on AM? Not "I dislike high fidelity stereo", just "I remember hearing this song in mono through lovely speakers on the way to..."

I still have all my old mp3s from the napster days, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I tried getting a few of them in modern versions, but they just sound wrong to me.

One of them was ripped buy a guy who had AOL instant messenger on in the background. The door-shutting sound when one of your friends logs off plays during the bridge of the song, and I always listen for it when I play that song.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

I used to be able to sem-accurately guess a song's bitrate based on how lovely/good it sounded lol

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Jan 20, 2008


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The Xing mp3 encoder was one of the very worst. It made garbage files that sounded like they were being played from underwater

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