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OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Al! posted:

its "no true scotsman" dumbass and also it wasn't antifa

:thejoke:

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Be weirder if he claimed Mayweather as a champion of the white race imo

My sense of it is that they're trying to paint MMA as a more intellectual pursuit that white men like McGregor can excel in, while a straightforward highly regulated sport like boxing favors the naturally athletic negroid. But maybe I'm overthinking it.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

My sense of it is that they're trying to paint MMA as a more intellectual pursuit that white men like McGregor can excel in, while a straightforward highly regulated sport like boxing favors the naturally athletic negroid. But maybe I'm overthinking it.

I think it's more that mma is a sport where the kind of weirdos who would listen to Spencer thrive just by happenstance so he's trying to appeal to them and get some kind of support

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I think it's more that mma is a sport where the kind of weirdos who would listen to Spencer thrive just by happenstance so he's trying to appeal to them and get some kind of support

To be fair to MMA, it's a sport for all politics, not just Nazis.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

To be fair to MMA, it's a sport for all politics, not just Nazis.

Sure but I think Nazis and the sort of people predisposed to being recruited by them are there in amounts you don't see elsewhere

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Oh no a symbol of unnecessary luxury was destroyed call in the national guard

A poor immigrant can't afford to feed or house his family, another victory for socialism!

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Those who live servicing the rich will be considered compradors.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Byolante posted:

A poor immigrant can't afford to feed or house his family, another victory for socialism!

Truly we cannot express rage at capitalism because we all engage with it, also I, forums poster byolante, am a huge gay baby moron with poop in my pants

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Those who live servicing the rich will be considered compradors.

*Nods communistly*

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Byolante posted:

A poor immigrant can't afford to feed or house his family, another victory for socialism!

You actually loving what

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Crane Fist posted:

You actually loving what

The guy who owned the limo was a muslim immigrant, so a great victory for leftism and solidarity

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Is this that idpol all the kids are talking about?

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Nah this is just some good old fashioned concern trolling

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
A priest says he downloaded child porn to ‘get revenge on God’ for his poker losses, court says

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article169265302.html

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Sure but I think Nazis and the sort of people predisposed to being recruited by them are there in amounts you don't see elsewhere



Actually, nah.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
Where is cricket, biggest sport in the world, on that graph

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Byolante posted:

Where is cricket, biggest sport in the world, on that graph

Don't think there's a lot of Cricket fans in America

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Tokamak posted:



Actually, nah.

Unironically, huh. Interesting. I learned a thinf

sword_man.gif
Apr 12, 2007

Fun Shoe
i'm kind of legitimately surprised nascar and the nfl (after the whole kaepernick thing and people losing their minds about it) aren't more skewed to the right

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

sword_man.gif posted:

i'm kind of legitimately surprised nascar and the nfl (after the whole kaepernick thing and people losing their minds about it) aren't more skewed to the right

Its probably that they have such huge fanbases that it becomes a centrist melange when you average it out for a study like this.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Basketball and pro wrestling confirmed to be the best sports.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


lol at the WNBA

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Tokamak posted:



Actually, nah.
that's a good graph. i'd be surprised NHL is that far right due to the geography of its biggest fans in the midwest and northeast, but then again, white people

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

sword_man.gif posted:

i'm kind of legitimately surprised nascar and the nfl (after the whole kaepernick thing and people losing their minds about it) aren't more skewed to the right

can't speak for NASCAR but the NFL and football in general has a very broad appeal to just about every social class and identity group in the country. I've seen techbros and stockbrokers having bitch sessions about the local team with sidewalk shoeshine dudes who they'd otherwise never talk to.

there was some essay about this somewhere that basically said liberals/leftists should become sports fans if they want to work on their image problems with the working class

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Byolante posted:

A poor immigrant can't afford to feed or house his family, another victory for socialism!

Oh my god lmao

Grimoire
Jul 9, 2003

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

there was some essay about this somewhere that basically said liberals/leftists should become sports fans if they want to work on their image problems with the working class

Wanna push bodybuilding into the top left corner. Dictatorship of the swoletariate.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
I thought ufc/mma's position on that chart was kinda weird, but I guess it's an age thing

the people dragging it down to the bottom of voter engagement are the same people keeping it on the left side of the line, the gigantic mass of politically disengaged young people; it just feels like a right-wing sport because alt-right douchebags are the only ufc fans who care about politics much at all

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Yeah, it's probably MMA's crossover with wrestling and the poorer working class. Also I didn't realise that the data is five years old (It was posted in the wrestling forum recently), and MMA might be the one sport where it could have shifted over that time (but probably not as much as you'd think). Still, you have to remember that many 'uncouth working poor' who watch combat sports are democrats (compared to say, rodeo). The oversight of not recognising that political identity was basically the thing that cost the Democrats the election.

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

Not sure if this belongs in Woke Brands or here, but w/e:

quote:

Cahill’s suggestions belied his ignorance of reporting and lack of sensitivity to social issues, according to former staffers. Cahill wanted to replicate the success of New York magazine’s cover story with photos of women who had accused Bill Cosby of rape, said the staffer who covered social justice issues, and suggested they “do a similar roundup” with survivors of sexual assault. “‘Maybe campus rape, maybe not...whatever! Just find rape victims and get them to share their stories!’” the staffer recalled in an email, mocking the tone.

quote:

Mic, perhaps seeing the writing on the wall, had already hired Bleacher Report veteran Michael Cahill in May 2015 as its director of search engine optimization. His task was to translate Mic’s Facebook optimization process to Google. This meant analyzing search trends in order to generate key phrases — everything from “What time is the convention” and “Watch Trump’s speech live” to “How to pick up women” — and assigning those key phrases to a staff of SEO writers, who then reverse-engineered stories around them. “He starts building this little team. They’re off in their own world. Garbage poo poo. Typos everywhere. ‘Keyword keyword 2017 colon how when where why.’ These poor kids are writing like ten of these a day,” said the former staffer who left in late 2016. “That strategy just kind of overtook the entire newsroom. The desk editors would have weekly meetings with his little lackey… they would have a spreadsheet of like 50 different story ideas that had a bunch of keywords in them, and we had to sit down and assign them to writers together.”

lohli
Jun 30, 2008
Man stabbed by black Nazi hunter because of his haircut!



Man stabbed by black Nazi hunter because of his haircut!
Man accidentally stabs self after impatiently playing with his newly bought knife in the car.

Kraps
Sep 9, 2011

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.
Which one of you writes for the Onion?

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/902265816741228546

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

a Hillary donor bought the onion last election actually so of course they would be pro-fascist

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
I don't know why that guy who stabbed himself and blamed it on antifa couldn't carve a trident into his forehead or something if he was going to risk criminal charges for it.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Byolante posted:

I don't know why that guy who stabbed himself and blamed it on antifa couldn't carve a trident into his forehead or something if he was going to risk criminal charges for it.

Should have done the ol' Life of David Gale and gone all the way for his ideology

sword_man.gif
Apr 12, 2007

Fun Shoe

Byolante posted:

I don't know why that guy who stabbed himself and blamed it on antifa couldn't carve a trident into his forehead or something if he was going to risk criminal charges for it.

at least that woman took the time to draw a B on herself

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

http://elibosnick.com/2017/08/29/woker-than-thou/


quote:

You hear about Joss Whedon? If you didn’t, take a moment to Google, ‘cause I don’t want to repeat the details here. Mostly because I don’t know what’s true (but all of it’s ugly). So go check that out and come back…I’ll wait.

You good? Good. Here we go. And before I start I wanna warn you:

I don’t believe that personal failings take away from the fact that you are someone who cares who cares about an issue, be it feminism, humanism, gay rights, or the quality of swedish meatballs.

So when I read these grinning so-called “think pieces” on Joss Whedon by people who write as though they’ve known all along that he was only pretending to care about women, not only do I question their motives, but I also see yet another disturbing example of a pattern that I don’t think people who are on the side of social justice talk about enough.

Now that doesn’t mean that “performative” social justice isn’t a problem for allies (especially white men); it’s a huge one, and one that needs to be addressed. But I think that there is a difference between someone who means well but has personal weaknesses and someone who doesn’t really care about equality but  pretends to care about equality in order to manipulate other people, and the problem with those so gleefully dancing on the grave of Joss Whedon’s persona is that they don’t seem to care.

And I say that because, I’m gonna admit to you now, for my sake, I hope I’m right

I espouse a lot of ideas that I’ve failed to live up to. I advocate nonviolence, but I have also struck first, too hard, and too quickly. I do my best to promote equality, but I have said and done things that make the world worse for the people who need my help. For a laugh, out of anger, and out of plain ignorance.

I try to fight for the downtrodden, but I spent a tremendous amount of my young life doing the treading. I have behaved badly. I have hurt the people in my life. I’ve been weak. I’ve been wrong. I’ve been angry, mean, vindictive, and vengeful, and I regret it but, from the looks of the joyful articles I’ve seen celebrating the fall of yet another straight white man, there but before the proper “expose” go I.

And look: if I’m consigned to the status of “performative” because of that, then so be it. It is not my place to defend or apologize for my weaknesses or to demand inclusion in movements that aren’t about me, regardless of my failings. Social justice does not belong to me. It is not mine to claim.

But my personal failings are. They are mine and they are as much “me” as the best parts of myself because, as I’ve said in this blog before, there is no “you” other than the way you treat the people around you. We have no secret character; we are merely composed of our actions.

And further, I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that I think that this and so many other so-called falls from grace seem to be more the result of a culture that’s “woker than thou” than that of the failings of the individual. I love Buffy, the Avengers, Angel, and Firefly, and I’m sorry but, until it was the hip new thing not to, so did you.

Do all shows by everyone loving ever have problematic aspects? Of course. But we seem to wait for collective permission before we descend on someone’s flaws; the person has to fall into the category of “bad ally” for us to notice.

Moments like this worry me and NOT just for selfish reasons, I think. They worry me because, while I spend a tremendous amount of my time advocating for social justice and fighting the straw men, it’s at moments like this that those straw men start to take form, take on life, and bite me.

Take Sam Harris. Ok, not Sam NOW, NOT Sam now but when The End of Faith first came out. The chapter on the problem of Islam was…not well written. But honestly, if you read that chapter in good faith you could see the point Sam was making and it was not that we should nuke all the brown people.

But I didn’t see him get that chance. Look, Sam is stubborn (I think even he’d admit that) and indelicate but he wasn’t monstrous. Even today he’s not monstrous, but his critics didn’t care. They were more concerned with calling him out than hearing what he had to say and, as a result, they got death threats sent to his daughter.

How dare we expect him to listen to anything we have to say after that? How do we expect him to do anything but turn to the side that defended him? The cycle of mistake, to public outcry, to doubling down on bad ideas has repeated itself over and over and OVER again, and I wonder how many times or by how many years I missed it.

The person I was, the mistakes I made, and the bad ideas I had were changed by friends with inexhaustible patience, and while we all agree that nobody owed me that, I wouldn’t have gotten to where I am today without it.

And with each of these new cases I wonder what the difference would be if we who claim to care about people were here to catch people as they fell, instead of stopping to point as they hit the ground. Or why something immutable about them somehow made their fall justice, proved our point, or made them less worthy of our forgiveness.

It is this side of the so-called social justice movement that scares me.

So let it be said now that I am not perfect, I have done some bad things, and I have failed and will fail again.

And if that’s what you require for someone to be under your tent you should kick me out now before someone who doesn’t like me tells you first.

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some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Made it maybe four paragraphs of increasingly bad takes before I gave up and just skimmed it

The defense of Sam Harris, holy poo poo

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Who's Sam Harris again also Joss Whedon sucks

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Crane Fist posted:

The defense of Sam Harris, holy poo poo

Is Sam Harris some neo-Atheist Islamophobic podcaster or am I thinking of someone else

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

i am mixed with the whedon poo poo. on one hand it doesnt surprise me that he was a hypocritical shitfuck who covered up his own moral failings by making GBS threads on others. woke idpol purists are the left equivalent of evangelicals culture warriors(cept at least the wokes have their heart in the right place) but why are they treating being a decent person(not being a bigot/respecting others) are some weird religious cult.
https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/899428956352294912

https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/899438698223198209

https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/899459842158370817

i get what he means but assholes like him sound like its loving death cult. no wonder shitheads like weadon and that movie critic date rapist can slip in so loving easy.

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