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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Yeah that seemed like an easy under.
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Aug 29, 2017 20:15
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Sixers seem crazy high but that's already been litigated here a bunch Edit: 
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Aug 29, 2017 20:20
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That's a whole dollar if you put $1k on the Warriors to make the playoffs.
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Aug 29, 2017 20:24
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Those are odds slightly worse than a savings account.
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Aug 29, 2017 20:26
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I'd put a dollar on golden State not making the playoffs with those odds
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Aug 29, 2017 20:26
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Metapod posted:I'd put a dollar on golden State not making the playoffs with those odds How many injuries would it take for that to happen?
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Aug 29, 2017 20:31
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Metapod posted:I'd put a dollar on golden State not making the playoffs with those odds You "only" get $100 off that
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Aug 29, 2017 20:31
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Lockback posted:You "only" get $100 off that If you bet a dollar. If you bet $1000, it becomes more worth your while to stalk the Warriors starters with increasingly elaborate schemes to injure them.
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Aug 29, 2017 20:59
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ChickenMedium posted:If you bet a dollar. If you bet $1000, it becomes more worth your while to stalk the Warriors starters with increasingly elaborate schemes to injure them. How do I get Zaza Pachulia's number
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Aug 29, 2017 21:14
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As a person who is going all in on the Timberwolves and is irrationally optimistic about them, 48 is a lot of wins. That's more games than they've won in 15 years.
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Aug 29, 2017 21:16
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GSW under all drat day
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Aug 29, 2017 21:34
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Cool Buff Man posted:The Celtics are either going to be missing their starting PG for a while or have an entirely new team and will probably struggle at the start, really don't see them winning 56-57 games this year. The year after sure I can't see any reason why they would struggle with the players they've added. Have I become a Boston homer or something? I'm not entirely sure what's wrong with me. 60 Ws easy.
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Aug 29, 2017 21:43
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Because it takes time for even very good players to play well together. See the first year of the Heat Superteam
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Aug 29, 2017 21:55
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Libertine posted:I can't see any reason why they would struggle with the players they've added. Have I become a Boston homer or something? I'm not entirely sure what's wrong with me. 60 Ws easy. If the trade goes through, they will have four players from last season coming back and only one of them a starter.
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Aug 29, 2017 21:57
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Winning 60 games is never "easy" in the NBA, especially for a team adding new players.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:05
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AggressivelyStupid posted:LeBron James: Player, Coach, GM, Owner, Agent, Actor, Investor. LeBron saved Trainwreck from being a horrible, piece of poo poo movie to just a piece of poo poo movie.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:13
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Golden State won fewer games after adding Durant because roster continuity matters.OzFactor posted:As a person who is going all in on the Timberwolves and is irrationally optimistic about them, 48 is a lot of wins. That's more games than they've won in 15 years. If you add up all their wins in fifteen years it's gotta be more than 48, right? I'd take the under, but it's close. Jimmy Butler dragged a terrible roster to .500 last year, sniffing 50 is certainly reasonable, even if it is a bit optimistic.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:17
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In the East, the Hawks, Pacers, and Bulls all imploded and only the Sixers made any kind of substantial improvements to their roster. The Celtics won 53 games last year, added a lottery pick and two superstar players. I think they they will easily clear 56. They will clear that difference just from Bulls/Hawks probably (who they lost a combined 4 games to last year).
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Aug 29, 2017 22:43
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Libertine posted:I can't see any reason why they would struggle with the players they've added. Have I become a Boston homer or something? I'm not entirely sure what's wrong with me. 60 Ws easy. On top of roster continuity issues, assuming the trade goes through, they will have lost probably their 2 best defenders, or at least 2 very very good defensive players. And even if they get Kyrie he will not replace ITs production and efficiency. Hayward is an upgrade overall but also Horford is a year older and has always veen injury prone. It's not impossible that they'll be worse as a team on both ends of the court. I think the under on that one is a no brainer, personally. Under on 53 for the Cavs seems pretty easy, too. They only won 51 last year, they're older, and if the trade goes through they'll be without a quality starting PG for a while.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:48
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As pessimistic as I am about everything I think the Raps will go over. They lost Demarre Carroll, are still deep, and kept a strong regular season team together. Combined that with the east getting worse and having the conference's top two teams going through a bit of growing pains will lead to more wins. They'll win 50/51 games and lose in the first round.
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Aug 29, 2017 23:09
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Mavs are going over, easy money.
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Aug 29, 2017 23:57
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Lockback posted:I'd take the under, but it's close. Jimmy Butler dragged a terrible roster to .500 last year, sniffing 50 is certainly reasonable, even if it is a bit optimistic. Sure but he did it in the East. Not only is it the better side in general, I feel like every team in the West got better outside LAC, MEM, and UTA (and GSW but you know). I feel like 50 wins is everything going right: Towns continuing to improve, Wiggins taking the next step, Butler going off, the defense coming together, and the bench not blowing it every night. I'd consider it a great season for 3 out of the 5 of those. And I feel like #2 and 3 might conflict a bit, at least early on. edit: I'm more than happy to be surprised though!
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Aug 30, 2017 00:54
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Wiggins can still take the next step without scoring a bunch. His defense can be better, and he can hopefully continue on progressing his spot-up 3's.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:59
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Minnesota the team that people expect 50 but yet to deliver 40
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Aug 30, 2017 01:05
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Lockback posted:I'd take the under, but it's close. Jimmy Butler dragged a terrible roster to .500 last year, sniffing 50 is certainly reasonable, even if it is a bit optimistic. Butler should put them in the 48 win range, I think that's totally reasonable. The 54 line for the Spurs seems reasonable to me, there's a lot of volatility there though.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:23
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OzFactor posted:Sure but he did it in the East. Not only is it the better side in general, I feel like every team in the West got better outside LAC, MEM, and UTA (and GSW but you know). I feel like 50 wins is everything going right: Towns continuing to improve, Wiggins taking the next step, Butler going off, the defense coming together, and the bench not blowing it every night. I'd consider it a great season for 3 out of the 5 of those. And I feel like #2 and 3 might conflict a bit, at least early on. People overestimate conference strength of schedule, this isn't the MLB or NFL. Bulls still played 30 have against the West and were 13/30, which isn't very far of pace from their .500 record. If you have that team 50 West and 30 East they are like a 39 win team. Conference strength really comes into play in the playoffs (that Bulls team wasn't taking Golden State to 7). Bashez posted:Butler should put them in the 48 win range, I think that's totally reasonable. I like the over here. They won 61 last year and I feel like that team had some shakiness out of the gate. Probably in the 56-59 range.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:31
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The main issue for the regular season Spurs is that they lost a lot of depth. Parker's out for months, their Bigs depth is barren compared to last year, and their wings are kinda shaky as far as shooters or creators.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:35
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Libertine posted:In the East, the Hawks, Pacers, and Bulls all imploded and only the Sixers made any kind of substantial improvements to their roster. The Celtics also lost a superstar, three other starters, and most of their bench.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:52
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I still don't understand Spurs giving Pau a 3 year deal.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:59
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Ghost Dog posted:the world, and the sports world in particular, would be so much better if every famous boston talking head was replaced with cool buff man I dunno, I watched that SB Nation vid on lobster boat races and determined that Mainers should never speak
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Aug 30, 2017 02:29
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Away all Goats posted:I still don't understand Spurs giving Pau a 3 year deal. timmy played well until he was 65 years old, so they assume everybody can
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Aug 30, 2017 03:51
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Atl 25.5 -- If they go over, I'll clap loudly. This is the least talented team in the NBA. They have a handful of solid role players and some crap. If the role players gel as a unit, 27 is possible, otherwise 22-25 is likely Bos 56.5 -- Under, continuity, no actual bigs besides Horford and Aron Baynes, relying on Marcus Morris and Jaylen Brown sounds fine but it means a lot less 3p shooting than they've had recently and a bit less rebounding. They finally have a guy to defend Lebron, Marcus Morris, eye test approved, advanced stats proven best Lebron defender, so they could finally win one playoff game against the Cavs. Brk 28.5 -- This is a trap number, they want your savvy NBA fan confidence to lure you into an over. They were insanely dependent on Jeremy Lin Brook Lopez PNR last year, they'll have to find a new recipe. I believe in the Slavic antiprocess and I still must say under Cha 42.5 -- This is dificil, I would say hard over if MKG was hurt again, he really fucks up the flow of their offense. But Batum won't be hurt. so they should be an over barring anything catastrophic Chi 21.5 -- This seems depressed because of Bulls fan depression. It's really hard to lose this many games. Over Cle 53.5 - Lebron gets to this number with Kevin Love and shooters, even if the pg has a bad hip, over Dal 35.5 -- I like their future but their present is very uninspiring. Rookie PGs are never good. If Dennis Smith ends the season with a positive +/- it will prove Dirk and Rick Carlisle are the PG steroids. Staying away Den 45.5 - I like Denver but this is running with the devil, I would stay away. We can visualize them beating the 3-15 teams in the West, but their defense is still going to be bad. I think 42.5 is a safer number Det 38.5-- This is 1.5 more wins than last year with the Reggie Jackson mess. Now they have neither KCP nor Morris. A healthy Jackson probably gets them to 40. Betting on that is sinful GS 67.5 -- They get a boost from continuity, but I think they'll rest enough to be under Hou 55.5 -- Fair (Houston Rockets Championship) Ind 31.5-- I think they'll probably win 32 games, But I don't think that count as an over, they have some NBA players and some "hey gently caress you we're not that bad" and are rudderless as an organization, so they won't tank properly. I've seen teams with similar rosters win 32-35 games plenty. I think I'd put a little money on this. They have a lot of veterans and shooting, Myles Turner is going to improve, I can see it, I have confidence. LAC 43.5- OVER my god LAL 33.5 - Under, They acquired a solid all around wing and Brook Lopez, Ingram is growing into a very good scorer, Luke Walton should make their offense juice around, but their defense is going to be rough, real real real rough Mem 37.5 - There's no reason for them to not be .500 unless Mike Conley is injured or something. They've clawed to .500 with Lance Stephenson starting at pg Mia 43.5 - fine with me, maybe under if you want to bet on their shooting regressing a bit, but they looked like what a Goran Dragic team should look like, and they will probably continue. Mil 47.5 - Why so many wins? That's ridiculous, under Min 48.5 -- No thanks, under NO 39.5 -- I'd like this to be true, I'd like to say over, but I really cannot say NY 30.5 -- Who plays for this team? Mystery man win bonus, over OKC 51.5-- Sure Orl 33.5-- They seem like they're beginning a re-rebuild, I've never seen a John Hammond team tank hard, but who can say, I would steer clear Phi 42.5 -- This is a bet on Joel Embiid being healthy and Ben Simmons not gunking things up, no thanks, I'll stay home Phx 28.5 This is fair, Healthy Bledsoe, Booker, Joshua Jackson, TJ Warren, Chandler, they should be a pretty fun high scoring team some nights, I can see it breaking well and them hitting 34 wins or something, but it's really a 90% offense team with a ton of young players and not much rebounding, that's a recipe for landing around 26-29 Por 42.5- Will Nurkic be back, if so, fair number, if not, under Sac 28.5 - OVER baby, SACTOWN is BACK SA 54.5 - 55 is very reasonable. I wonder what Rudy Gay will do Tor 48.5 - Over, they're still the same 50 win team. Kyle Lowry is really good and they have lots of NBA players Utah 40.5-- Over, gently caress Gordon Hayward defense wins champiships baby Was 47.5- Under, too much chance of injury Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 05:04
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Dejan Bimble posted:SA 54.5 - 55 is very reasonable. I wonder what Rudy Gay will do https://twitter.com/RudyGay/status/902710651017191424 Big things
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Aug 30, 2017 05:13
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Dejan Bimble posted:Cle 53.5 - Lebron gets to this number with Kevin Love and shooters, even if the pg has a bad hip, over My big problem with this is that they only won 51 games last year, even though Kyrie was healthy. JR Smith missed a bunch of games and Love missed like 20 games, but I don't think that's as big a deal as missing Kyrie levels of production for half the season. If they go over it will be due to Crowder's defensive presence/existence on the bench being a huge deal. Not impossible, but I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable making the bet.
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Aug 30, 2017 05:18
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Why would the Cavs even try to win games beyond getting into the playoffs. They pretty much proved that home court doesn't matter in the east, and there's no way they're beating any of the western contenders in win total even at their best.
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Aug 30, 2017 05:20
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Even at Rudy's peak he wasn't a top 10 SF. And I like Rudy Gay
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Aug 30, 2017 05:22
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Icy Penguigo posted:My big problem with this is that they only won 51 games last year, even though Kyrie was healthy. JR Smith missed a bunch of games and Love missed like 20 games, but I don't think that's as big a deal as missing Kyrie levels of production for half the season. If they go over it will be due to Crowder's defensive presence/existence on the bench being a huge deal. Not impossible, but I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable making the bet. That's a very reasonable opinion. They coasted so much last year, this year they have a backup for Lebron so he can play fewer minutes. Kevin Love will blossom with more touches, if IT isn't cooked for good, he'll be a good player for half of the season. They just have so much shooting that it's hard to do anything with them if they're trying. Tae: There's a solid chance they coast again. That's true, my assumption was that Lebron would try to tie a bow on his Cleveland return and give the fans a bunch of good games, before leaving this summer. He seems to care about these things.
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Aug 30, 2017 05:23
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WhyteRyce posted:Even at Rudy's peak he wasn't a top 10 SF. And I like Rudy Gay And yet he's on the 2k18 Kings all franchise team because this franchise, much like Nik, rocks
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Aug 30, 2017 05:25
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Dejan Bimble posted:
The Bulls have, by my count, like 3 NBA players on the entire roster, and one of them is old, broken, and has literally no incentive to do anything other than save his knees for the Cavs.
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Aug 30, 2017 05:41
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Dejan Bimble posted:Dal 35.5 -- I like their future but their present is very uninspiring. Rookie PGs are never good. If Dennis Smith ends the season with a positive +/- it will prove Dirk and Rick Carlisle are the PG steroids. Staying away Noel being on the roster all season instead of just at the end (+no Bogut) should account for the Mavs winning at minimum 2 more wins than last season. Having a point guard other than Devin Harris play more than 40 games will also help. Yogi/DSJ/Barea/Harris will presumably be a much more stable/healthy pg rotation than last year. People that didn't watch the Mavs forget how dire their point guard situation was before they signed Yogi. Roster continuity should also account for a few more wins than last season. DSJ may be starting but Carlisle would bench anyone in crunch time if it means winning a game. It really wouldn't shock me if their crunch time 5 is Yogi/Matthews/Barnes/Dirk/Noel. Players likely to be in the rotation are DSJ/Yogi/Barea Matthews/Curry/Harris Barnes/DFS Dirk/Powell Noel/Salah A lot of those guys now know their role on the team. It's also not unrealistic to think Yogi, Curry, Barnes, DFS, and Noel could be better players than last season. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 05:47
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