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bird food bathtub posted:If you're talking bad on Terry we're gonna have to go out back and have a conversation. I'm not sure which part of owning every Terry Pratchett novel is me smacktalking him? For added neeeeeerd cred I went to his honorary doctorate ceremony in Trinity College Dublin. Yes, he had a sword 
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Annointed posted:Looks like someone wants to get fired. You guys need to read the actual text of the ban Trump ended up signing. It's very different from what he said on Twitter. Mattis is actually following that, he's not some insubordinate superhero here. Not that it's a good thing, but as always with Trump, he's very inconsistent.
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Grapplejack posted:What sort of hosed up bizarro history book did you get this information from? One that's not written by an obvious propagandist?  Nazis died on the Eastern Front.
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Shbobdb posted:One that's not written by an obvious propagandist? I thought this was a wwi derail?
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I'm gonna laugh super hard if you guys were arguing about different wars and didn't realize it
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Mustached Demon posted:I thought this was a wwi derail? World War 2 was World War 1: Round 2 in many many ways.
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So once again the military is openly defying the executive, and once again all thinking people agree that actually no really this is the least worst option. I want to get off Mr. Trump's wild ride.
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Spun Dog posted:Nobody like to think they are a bad person, even if they are. Well, even if Spicer thinks he's a good person, why does he think the Pope is a good person?
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I thought it was a derail about David Foster Wallace. In a historical irony, Shbobdb tries fighting a derail war on two fronts simultaneously
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evilweasel posted:i think they should have occupied significant portions of the country and that the fighting should have ended with a surrender rather than an armistice. i do not see any way in which asking me for a specific percentage is any sort of useful argument instead of a stupid attempt to bog me down in nonsense instead of arguing why it's a bad argument. I think I should be married to Charlotte McKinney. Guess what: I'm not. Thinking something doesn't make it true or even valid. quote:i am not characterizing the backstab myth as the sole cause of WWII, but a significant contributor to it. And I'm saying you are giving it was to much credit as causal in any way. It's ex post facto as opposed to causal.
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is it fair to characterize this as a very soft, almost supple coup?
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As a side note can I say, I loved the FLOTUS hat? Even in this hosed up mess of an administration the FLOTUS hat got a legitimate smile out of me.
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Shbobdb posted:Additionally, the Russians were really kicking German rear end. The Capitalist powers weren't going to sit by and let the Russians say they won the war so they had to do something. the gently caress are you talking about do you know literally anything about WWII Stalin was demanding a second front nonstop he wasn't like I've got this guys no need to do anything and it was a constant sore spot for the Russians the us/uk wasn't doing enough it wasn't some stupid slapfight over credit for victory for the capitalists are you five years old reading history off the backs of sugar packets
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Shbobdb posted:One that's not written by an obvious propagandist? everyone knows that idiot that wasn't the amazingly stupid part of your post
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Aug 30, 2017 01:21
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Aug 30, 2017 01:22
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I guess we're about due for WW3 since we can't seem to remember what the last two were about. Somebody better write it all down this time.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:23
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evilweasel posted:everyone knows that idiot that wasn't the amazingly stupid part of your post That's the part he quoted 
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Mandator posted:I guess we're about due for WW3 since we can't seem to remember what the last two were about. Somebody better write it all down this time. If only we had statues to remember it 
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evilweasel posted:the gently caress are you talking about do you know literally anything about WWII You keep jumping from point to point, throwing things at the wall to see what sticks while resorting to personal attacks. That might be semi-decent rhetoric but it's bad form and doesn't really advance what you are arguing.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:25
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Assange hasn't been charged with anything in the US.
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empty whippet box posted:lmfao rip mattis Mattis will be fine. Trump's too much of a gutless shitweasel to even fire his flunkies face-to-face. How's he gonna make Mattis go away?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Mattis will be fine. Trump's too much of a gutless shitweasel to even fire his flunkies face-to-face. How's he gonna make Mattis go away? The tweets, they are a-comin', though. I was wondering what Trump's next incredibly pointless, self inflicted wound would be, here it comes!
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And of course it's Rohrabacher.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Assange hasn't been charged with anything in the US. Neither was Nixon
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Mattis is tired of this bullshit. If Trump is going to be a moron, then Mattis is going to make him work for it. Mattis will work hard, but he loves the troops more than anything else.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/348467-gop-rep-rendezvous-being-set-up-with-trump-to-relay-info-from?amp Haha Rohrabacher wants a meeting with Trump to pass on secret information from WikiLeaks. He knows Russia didn't hack DNC because Assange told him so emphatically.
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Aug 30, 2017 01:37
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I assume Rohrabacher has got to the point where it's so obvious he's a Russian puppet that there's no point trying to lay low so he's just going all out. Oh and he's faced no consequences even though Paul Ryan's number 2 knows it.
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Ague Proof posted:I assume Rohrabacher has got to the point where it's so obvious he's a Russian puppet that there's no point trying to lay low so he's just going all out. The thing with being compromised is the country compromising you doesn't care if your cover gets blown. They'll keep squeezing until you kill yourself or get caught. It's always temporary.
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EngineerJoe posted:The thing with being compromised is the country compromising you doesn't care if your cover gets blown. They'll keep squeezing until you kill yourself or get caught. It's always temporary. i mean, they do cause they want to keep their asset, but it's now public that his party knows he's on putin's payroll so why not go for it
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EngineerJoe posted:The thing with being compromised is the country compromising you doesn't care if your cover gets blown. They'll keep squeezing until you kill yourself or get caught. It's always temporary. well at least this will have a happy ending
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So like if Trump is dumb enough (he is) to fire Mattis via a tweet or from just having a press conference or whatever, and Mattis is just like lol no, what happens?
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I thought that during WW2 the Allies were actually more like " Let's try and support Russia, but not to much cause we're probably gonna have to continue fighting a war against them after this poo poo is over" so while Stalin was all pissy about not enough support from UK / USA the USA / UK were drawing up plans on how to gently caress up Russia after Germany surrendered
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There's a 99% chance that, if Rohrabacher gets to meet with Trump, he will tell the president that Seth Rich was the source of the DNC leaks and that Seth was killed for it. And that will be the amazing revelation he supposedly has. Count on it.
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Mr Interweb posted:Well, even if Spicer thinks he's a good person, why does he think the Pope is a good person? Papal infallibility?
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A bunch of people in Trumps evangelical counsel met with others and created this The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) announced August 29th the release of The Nashville Statement, an evangelical coalition statement on biblical sexuality. It is...something else quote:WE AFFIRM that God has designed marriage to be a covenantal, sexual, procreative, lifelong union of one man and one woman, as husband and wife, and is meant to signify the covenant love between Christ and his bride the church.
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empty whippet box posted:lmfao rip mattis Vincent Van Goatse posted:Mattis will be fine. Trump's too much of a gutless shitweasel to even fire his flunkies face-to-face. How's he gonna make Mattis go away? Hastings posted:Mattis is tired of this bullshit. If Trump is going to be a moron, then Mattis is going to make him work for it. Mattis will work hard, but he loves the troops more than anything else. Neo Rasa posted:So like if Trump is dumb enough (he is) to fire Mattis via a tweet or from just having a press conference or whatever, and Mattis is just like lol no, what happens? He's not going to fire him because MATTIS ISN'T DEFYING HIM. The actual text of the transgender ban is much different from what Trump posted on Twitter, and Mattis is following it. https://www.lawfareblog.com/tweet-text-president-trump-instates-military-transgender-ban quote:Though without question this marks a serious change in policy, there are two important ways in which the final memo is less severe than the blanket ban initially implied by his tweets. First, the ban portion of the memo addresses only “accession,” or initial enlistment, of openly transgender persons. That means it is possible that the openly transgender persons already enlisted will not be ejected. (Estimates of the number of current transgender service members vary dramatically: from 1,320 to 6,630, to closer to 15,500.) As the New York Times reported on Friday, “[a]lthough pressed repeatedly by reporters, [a] senior official declined to comment on the possibility that many or even all transgender individuals could continue to serve if [Secretary] Mattis declined to remove them.” The terms of the memorandum, however, seem to grant Secretary Mattis tremendous leeway in how the military moves forward to implement the President’s mandate.
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Hollismason posted:I thought that during WW2 the Allies were actually more like " Let's try and support Russia, but not to much cause we're probably gonna have to continue fighting a war against them after this poo poo is over" so while Stalin was all pissy about not enough support from UK / USA the USA / UK were drawing up plans on how to gently caress up Russia after Germany surrendered but both nations were focused on getting germany beaten as quickly and cheaply as possible up until the breakout from normandy when it became clear that victory was nearly certain and jockeying started over grabbing control of stuff before the russians did. however they didn't really do a great job of making facts on the ground, and eisenhower also ignored a lot of churchill's attempts to do so you've gotta realize this was not the sort of war we have today: this was a horrific total war that was bankrupting the uk and costing the us huge amounts of money, people had very pressing concerns about winning the war as soon as possible without spending more blood and money than necessary. stalin was upset, reasonably, because the allies weren't launching the invasion in 1943 and leaving the ussr to take the brunt of hitler's attack for another year but it wasn't a sure thing that the ussr wouldn't collapse: they weren't loving around a year just for the fun of it. they were doing it because they didn't have the material needed to invade europe, which was not exactly a walk in the park.
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