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anilEhilated posted:Everything with a sense of humor isn't necessarily parody. These stories are still fantastic, though, and unlike Conan they aged extremely well.
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General Battuta posted:I'm locked out of Baru 2 til my editor finishes his pass so I started Baru 3 I'm taking a blind guess at where you're taking this series and predicting you're calling it The Hero Baru Cormorant. Or you'll go the opposite direction, The Total Shithead Baru Cormorant.
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Perhaps the third book will focus on propaganda and information warfare specifically... The Poster Baru Cormorant.
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Aug 29, 2017 20:53
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I'm taking a blind guess at where you're taking this series and predicting you're calling it The Hero Baru Cormorant. The Abominable Baru Cormorant
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Aug 29, 2017 20:53
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Or she becomes a shapeshifter, The Cormorant Baru Cormorant.
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Aug 29, 2017 20:57
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IMO read Pratchett books in publication order, once you've made the decision that you're going to read all of them ever.
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Aug 29, 2017 21:39
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Or she becomes a shapeshifter, The Cormorant Baru Cormorant. I am assuming that the world goes off the rails in book 2 and she becomes a magic wizard.
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Aug 29, 2017 21:42
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The Cromulent Baru Cormorant, in which she embiggens the Empire of Masks
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Aug 29, 2017 22:01
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The Person Who Actually Goes To Space Because It Really Is A Space Empire Baru Cormorant.
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The Aunt Beru Coruscant, wheren Beru messes up a totally different Empire.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:17
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Actual Cannibal Baru Cormorant
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The Shag Beru a slash fanfic (cw: age-play, colonialism, food) by papa horny michael
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You're planning a rebellion. There's no one you trust and your money is gone. Out of the corner of your mask you spot her.MockingQuantum posted:See it's charts like this that make people like myself and my friends not want to read Discworld at all, as someone who hasn't read any of the books before this makes it look like some kind of complex series, but from what everybody is saying, it's not that deeply interwoven and doesn't really matter much. It took a friend just handing me a copy of The Colour of Magic and telling me to start there before I actually considered reading any Pratchett because to date I'd just had people sending me instruction manuals on how to read them. Yeah this is a general problem not just with book recommendations but open-source software and game mods and longrunning series of all kinds. When people ask for a recommendation they don't want to be given a series of options! People are cognitive misers, they don't want to work it out, they want to be sucked in and enter narrative flow.
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General Battuta posted:I'm locked out of Baru 2 til my editor finishes his pass so I started Baru 3 To answer your second question, I have not but I want to, because yeah, NK is a fascinating/terrifying place. What I have read is The Aquariums of Pyongyang, which is a non-fiction account of a guy's experiences living in a NK work camp/gulag and is about as horrific as you can expect. Highly recommended, though obviously far from the topic of this thread.
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MockingQuantum posted:See it's charts like this that make people like myself and my friends not want to read Discworld at all, as someone who hasn't read any of the books before this makes it look like some kind of complex series, but from what everybody is saying, it's not that deeply interwoven and doesn't really matter much. It took a friend just handing me a copy of The Colour of Magic and telling me to start there before I actually considered reading any Pratchett because to date I'd just had people sending me instruction manuals on how to read them. I think the easiest way to avoid this problem would be to think of all of the Discworld character groupings as separate series. So we shouldn't tell people "read Discworld", we should tell people "read the Night Watch books" or "read the Tiffany Acheing books". This, admittedly, would be easier if publishers would get aboard. This may also apply to other similarly long and anachronic series. Which may be a moot point, as Discworld doesn't have many rivals for sheer ~number of volumes, barring Xanth (which nobody should want to read anyway), comic books, and old serials that have been running for 60 years. But anyway, just give people a small digestible chunk of whatever it is you're trying to turn them onto, and trust that, if they like it enough, they'll find more on their own. Don't worry about whether they'll Do It Wrong and bounce off. Kesper North posted:
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The first Discworld book I read was Night Watch, I couldn't tell you what the second one I read was because I spent most of the next few years swapping out one library book in the series for another. There's no required reading order for the series, continuity is more episodic than serial and most books you can appreciate on their own. I'd just recommend people skip the first five or so until they're invested enough in the series.
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:To answer your second question, I have not but I want to, because yeah, NK is a fascinating/terrifying place. What I have read is The Aquariums of Pyongyang, which is a non-fiction account of a guy's experiences living in a NK work camp/gulag and is about as horrific as you can expect. Highly recommended, though obviously far from the topic of this thread. North Korea is essentially the Imperium of Man made real, but with less 10 foot tall space marines and so on.
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General Battuta posted:You're planning a rebellion. There's no one you trust and your money is gone. Out of the corner of your mask you spot her. Yep, and it's just a mark of people who are really into anything that they really want someone uninitiated to get the best of everything so they can share in that enjoyment. It's hard to distill something you've spent a lot of time with down to just a pat recommendation, so I totally get it. I've become "the horror guy" for a book club I'm part of purely because I've read more horror than anybody else in the group, not because I'm at all an expert, and I still struggle to come up with a single recommendation when people ask for a good horror novel. Admittedly, that's trying to boil down a genre to one book, but it's a similar idea.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Some of them have aged extremely well. Some of them.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Or she becomes a shapeshifter, The Cormorant Baru Cormorant. Career change: The DJ Baru Cormorant.
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I thought there were only supposed to be two books so now I'm even more excited.
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Everyone knows he's going to tie this in with the new car release: The Subaru Cormorant.
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Pratchett reading order: Pick a book at random ( save Shepherds crown for last though), read it, enjoy it, pick a new book and then read them all. It is simple as that.
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One thing that bothers me about SF/F audiobooks is vocabulary, I guess I need to read a word I'm not familiar with to make sense of it sometimes. I'm listening to The Peripheral right now and one word is driving me crazy. It's only in Wilf's POV and it refers to these automatons that are fairly ubiquitous. Flynne refers to the same things as girl robots. I keep hearing the narrator say "mitchykoid" and I cannot figure out what it's supposed to be. Can somebody post the word? I only have the audiobook and can't check the text.
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Looks like it is "michikoid" and is based on a common Japanese women's name, "Michiko."
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occamsnailfile posted:I read Color of Magic not too long ago after bouncing off it previously. It wasn't bad, but I've also read Guards! Guards! and Reaper Man and they were definitely better. I mean Pratchett has never wowed me like he does so many others, but he very much evolved his style over time, and reading the books out of order doesn't affect much. Equal Rites is the worst discworld book anyway.
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IYKK posted:Equal Rites is the worst discworld book anyway. You say that when Color of Magic exists  (...also er I haven't read it so I mean, someone convince me that it's actually bad)
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Cardiac posted:Pratchett reading order: Absolutely save Shepherd's Crown for last.
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IYKK posted:Equal Rites is the worst discworld book anyway. No, just the most tonally dissonant. It treats witchcraft like wizardry, which is the reverse of the point. It is, however, mildly important to have read it before Maskerade and it gets a nice payoff in I Shall Wear Midnight.
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Proteus Jones posted:Absolutely save Shepherd's Crown for last. I'm still saving it for last. The Discworld series has been a fixture in my life since the 1980s and once I read that one there will be no more. 
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Groke posted:I'm still saving it for last. The Discworld series has been a fixture in my life since the 1980s and once I read that one there will be no more.  Although I read the Bromeliad after Shepherds Crown just to go full circle of his writing. And it was good since I got to pretend Pratchett was still alive.
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andrew smash posted:One thing that bothers me about SF/F audiobooks is vocabulary, I guess I need to read a word I'm not familiar with to make sense of it sometimes. I have the same problem. I grabbed City of Stairs from the library just because I have trouble with names in that book. Even though the pronunciation of the names stays pretty consistent, it's hard for me to keep characters (and gods, especially) straight without some visual memory of their names and which one is which.
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IMO the worst Discworld book was whichever one was second to last. Just looked it up. Raising Steam.
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Chairchucker posted:IMO the worst Discworld book was whichever one was second to last. Just looked it up. Raising Steam.
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Speaking of Pratchett, False Idols came out yesterday (by Jon Hollins). It's sort of like Pratchett if he had Tourette's and wrote a novel about a group of people that kind of actively annoy each other. I liked the first one, but I gotta wait a week or so to get the sequel.
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Chairchucker posted:IMO the worst Discworld book was whichever one was second to last. Just looked it up. Raising Steam. Plot wise it was pretty poo poo, but the scenes of young dwarves being radicalised were Angry Terry at his best.
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Just finished The Colo(u)r of Magic and it was great fun. Definitely not the most groundbreaking book, though I'm not sure if that's because it never was, or if he kind of inspired a lot of tropes that have been reused in a lot of parody fantasy that's followed. Overall it feels like a fun and vivid world and Pratchett's got a good sense of humor, which is enough for me to pick up more Discworld books in the near future.
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Okay another peripheral question; this may also be due to audiobook listening in the car (not the best place in terms of attention I can pay to the book); what did Conner's cube actually do?
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andrew smash posted:Okay another peripheral question; this may also be due to audiobook listening in the car (not the best place in terms of attention I can pay to the book); what did Conner's cube actually do? I think it's just a brute mechanical object of ingenious design. It rolls around smashing stuff.
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