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Tribal is the kind of thing that needs to either always be done or never be done. Doing it just sometimes is super weird
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Star Man posted:Collect twenty treasure tokens for a surprise. Mechanized Production 
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Aug 30, 2017 02:42
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LordAbaddon posted:I still don't get why they got rid of it Compulsive need to change the rules every year and confuse my casual playing friends.
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Aug 30, 2017 03:06
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The Human Crouton posted:Compulsive need to change the rules every year and confuse my casual playing friends. poo poo, I play kitchen table Magic with someone that thinks Ezuri, Renegade Leader is useless because I had to get in a ten minute argument with him about how regeneration can't get around effects that sacrifice a creature. He insisted that the way he'd been playing it was the way it always was, except that it never was. Just presume Magic players have reading skills worse than a preschooler.
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Aug 30, 2017 03:23
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I played a casual game with a guy who insisted that my tapped blockers didn't deal combat damage. To be fair, that's how the rules worked...in 1996. This was in 2013. Same guy also told me that he didn't think Skullclamp was a very good card.
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Aug 30, 2017 03:33
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Star Man posted:poo poo, I play kitchen table Magic with someone that thinks Ezuri, Renegade Leader is useless because I had to get in a ten minute argument with him about how regeneration can't get around effects that sacrifice a creature. He insisted that the way he'd been playing it was the way it always was, except that it never was. When my friend was first teaching me the game in the mid-90s he insisted that if I didn't physically untap something during my untap phase, I missed out and it stayed tapped until my next turn.
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Aug 30, 2017 03:34
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cheetah7071 posted:Tribal is the kind of thing that needs to either always be done or never be done. Doing it just sometimes is super weird The problem is that they hosed up implementing it and ended up with a confusing solution that players thought was dumb (It really freaked people's beans that Tribal is a type and not a supertype and they didn't really get why it need to be on the card at all) so they chickened out. I still don't quite get what would have been so terrible and game-breaking about just saying "oh yeah, other card types can have creature sub-types now". Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:The flavor text is always clunky no matter what, unless it's A Love Song of Night and Day or someone's last words. I just hope that with core sets coming back, they'll reprint the allied painlands soon, so I can break out my Foglio Sulfurous Springs.
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Aug 30, 2017 03:45
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C-Euro posted:When my friend was first teaching me the game in the mid-90s he insisted that if I didn't physically untap something during my untap phase, I missed out and it stayed tapped until my next turn. Oh man. The folks I play with casually also tap their cards by turning them maybe ten degrees so it can be hard to tell if something is tapped or not. They also never use +1/+1 counters in the appropriate way and instead use spindowns and place them over the creature's printed P/T and add up what the whole thing would be. Then any buffs like anthem or lord buffs get added to that as well. It's usually not an issue, though sometimes I will get confused about where an increase in states are coming from when there's multiples of them. They also attach instant cards that are combat tricks to their creatures like auras and leave sorceries in play like Overrun and then you have to hope they remember to put them in their graveyards at the end of the turn. The guy that also insisted regeneration can get around sacrifice also tried to tell me that the foreign signed Defense of the Heart he had was German. It was Portuguese. I can't read either language, but I know enough about either of them that they don't look like each other at all. I also learned that Rebecca Guay has a very uninspiring artist's signature. Then we get people at the store I play at that have to ask the judge if a planeswalker is a creature so they can use their Magma Spray or Murder against it (which is probably influenced by Gideon becoming a creature for a turn) or try to use cards that can only deal damage to an opponent on a creature. Seriously, it's always best to assume that your opponent in Magic is the dumbest loving human being on the planet and their ability to speak and read is a miracle in and of itself. Star Man fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 03:48
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Some Numbers posted:I played a casual game with a guy who insisted that my tapped blockers didn't deal combat damage. Uhh is it bad that until this post I thought you had to tap to block?
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Aug 30, 2017 03:52
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Ybrik posted:Uhh is it bad that until this post I thought you had to tap to block? A creature has to be untapped to be able to block, and blocking does not tap it, and you can tap it for an ability or whatever after it's been declared as a blocker without affecting anything. E.g. you can block with an Wall of Forgotten Pharaohs, then tap it for its ability before combat damage, and it still counts as blocking and combat damage will happen normally.
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Aug 30, 2017 03:56
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Entropic posted:A creature has to be untapped to be able to block, and blocking does not tap it, and you can tap it for an ability or whatever after it's been declared as a blocker without affecting anything. I knew both of those things i just always assumed that you had to tap them to show who's blocking or something. I'm dumb.
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Aug 30, 2017 03:59
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Ybrik posted:I knew both of those things i just always assumed that you had to tap them to show who's blocking or something. I'm dumb. That would have made Royal Assassin even more OP back in the day.
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Aug 30, 2017 04:01
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Goons posted:Casual Magic stories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPDOgycPcus
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Aug 30, 2017 04:19
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Aug 30, 2017 04:34
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Star Man posted:Oh man. The folks I play with casually also tap their cards by turning them maybe ten degrees so it can be hard to tell if something is tapped or not. They also never use +1/+1 counters in the appropriate way and instead use spindowns and place them over the creature's printed P/T and add up what the whole thing would be. Then any buffs like anthem or lord buffs get added to that as well. It's usually not an issue, though sometimes I will get confused about where an increase in states are coming from when there's multiples of them. They also attach instant cards that are combat tricks to their creatures like auras and leave sorceries in play like Overrun and then you have to hope they remember to put them in their graveyards at the end of the turn. I don't think my friend was dumb w/r/t Magic, just being a lovely kid trying to hustle a dumb kid. Also your post reminded me that I need to buy a set of different-colored d6 for use as -1/-1 counters.
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Aug 30, 2017 04:44
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Ybrik posted:Uhh is it bad that until this post I thought you had to tap to block? Honestly it's not a big deal unless you're playing multiplayer or Theros block limited.
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Aug 30, 2017 04:44
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Star Man posted:Seriously, it's always best to assume that your opponent in Magic is the dumbest loving human being on the planet and their ability to speak and read is a miracle in and of itself. Entropic posted:(It really freaked people's beans that Tribal is a type and not a supertype and they didn't really get why it need to be on the card at all) so they chickened out. Yeah, Star Man's theory checks out.
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Aug 30, 2017 05:15
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I once played with a guy that defended to this degree that I was not allowed to tap his planeswalker, maybe enchantment, idk, with my ral zarek. Basically this video hurts me physically and humans are self-entitled monsters.
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Aug 30, 2017 10:29
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https://twitter.com/saffronolive/status/902852284660539392 Pillar of Genesis 2 Artifact As Pillar of Genesis enters the battlefield, choose a creature type. (T):Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. Spend this mana only to cast a creature spell of the chosen type. Tainen fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 12:27
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Is this the first time in the mythic era we've had a 2 drop mana rock?
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Aug 30, 2017 12:49
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There was Corrupted Grafstone.
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Aug 30, 2017 13:00
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Jabor posted:There was Corrupted Grafstone. That's almost as restrictive as springleaf drum i'd say.
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Aug 30, 2017 13:12
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mehall posted:That's almost as restrictive as springleaf drum i'd say. (Specific) creature only acceleration doesn't seem incredible to me either, outside some particular context.
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Aug 30, 2017 13:20
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Procrastinator posted:I once played with a guy that defended to this degree that I was not allowed to tap his planeswalker, maybe enchantment, idk, with my ral zarek. What is he even defending? The video quality is so bad.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:00
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 Card Name 5W Creature - Dinosaur Enrage - Whenever ~ is dealt damage, put a +1/+1 counter on each other creature you control. 3/5  Twilight Legion Battleship 5 Artifact - Vehicle Vigilance Crew 2 4/6 Tainen fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 14:02
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The size of the butts on these cards is a bit disconcerting
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Aug 30, 2017 14:07
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Enrage is my favorite new mechanic. I can't wait to abuse something with Walking Ballista.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:12
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Ballista + White Dinosaur seems broken right?
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Aug 30, 2017 14:13
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If the Dino says other you'll get 6 triggers so not particularly
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Aug 30, 2017 14:17
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Twilight Legion Battleship is an incredibly cool name for such a boring card
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Aug 30, 2017 14:19
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Tainen posted:Ballista + White Dinosaur seems broken right? With two Walking Ballistas out, you can deal infinite damage to someone if you can make the dino indestructible.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:26
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I'm thinking even just playing the dinosaur and immediately turning it into 5 +1/+1 counters for your whole team is pretty crazy.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:29
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I was really hoping the dinosaurs would be pushed to be quite powerful. I just wanted some eternal playable dinos.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:31
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Elyv posted:Twilight Legion Battleship is an incredibly cool name for such a boring card magic players: vehicles are cool but we dislike how some of the vehicles are so blatantly pushed, both for limited and constructed wotc, listening and thinking really hard: our customers had a positive reaction to bad vehicles, so we should make more of them
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Aug 30, 2017 14:31
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Tainen posted:Ballista + White Dinosaur seems broken right? Not broken, but still pretty sweet
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Aug 30, 2017 14:37
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BJPaskoff posted:With two Walking Ballistas out, you can deal infinite damage to someone if you can make the dino indestructible. Giving a bystander +4/+4 for no mana isn't tiny either, though that requires three creatures, one of which you are going to bring to the brink of death yourself.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:38
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The cool thing is that it doesn't have to be done all in one turn.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:40
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Obviously with these big butts, we're getting lightning bolt back... Right?
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Aug 30, 2017 14:45
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Archenteron posted:Obviously with these big butts, we're getting lightning bolt back... Right? They're giving us a 4 damage to a creature or player instant for 4R in this set, that's just as good! (Flame Lash is still Standard legal.)
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Aranan posted:I was really hoping the dinosaurs would be pushed to be quite powerful. I just wanted some eternal playable dinos. I don't think there's a creature that costs more than 3 and isn't an artifact, colorless, or intended to be cheated out that is playable in Vintage or Legacy. Modern is less restrictive, but it's still difficult. Your best bet is some sort of 4 mana guy on par with borderline playable siege rhino.
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