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10 Beers posted:and Princess Bride
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Barry Lyndon my man, but it comes with three and a half hours of non fencing related cinematic bliss.
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Aug 28, 2017 13:27
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Alatriste with Viggo Mortensen. Some of the personal duels are a bit fanciful but the warfare scenes are Saving Private Ryan level brutal/realistic (inasmuch as I can imagine of course). http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395119/
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Aug 28, 2017 13:49
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the 13th Warrior will own forever
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Aug 28, 2017 13:55
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Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut only!) has some pretty good sword fights. The DC has a duel at the end that is particularly good. Also Ironclad- it's a bit cheesy but not bad. Worth it for James Purefoy wielding a zweihander.
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Aug 28, 2017 17:39
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Last Samurai is terrible. - Hidden Fortress - Samjuro - Yojimbo - Seven Samurai - After the rain -When the Last Sword Is Drawn - Gohatto Edit: Hidden Blade There's a couple more that I can't remember right now. ImplicitAssembler fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Aug 28, 2017 |
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Aug 28, 2017 17:56
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DandyLion posted:Alatriste with Viggo Mortensen. Some of the personal duels are a bit fanciful but the warfare scenes are Saving Private Ryan level brutal/realistic (inasmuch as I can imagine of course).
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Aug 28, 2017 17:56
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HEY GAIL posted:it is not, the dudes are way too loving close together. It's supposed to be double-arms' length minimum so the musketeers can get between you. Are you talking about that last scene at the end? It didn't seem like they even had many (if any musketeers) in their little phalanx to warrant that gapping (also considering the force assaulting them). Question is out of pure curiosity, as I'll defer to your practical knowledge in this matter since you drill historic with pike formations.
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Aug 28, 2017 18:07
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DandyLion posted:Are you talking about that last scene at the end? It didn't seem like they even had many (if any musketeers) in their little phalanx to warrant that gapping (also considering the force assaulting them). Question is out of pure curiosity, as I'll defer to your practical knowledge in this matter since you drill historic with pike formations. but there is a tiny shot in that last battle scene where you see musketeers almost offscreen and the dudes playing the musketeers are legitimately struggling past the pikemen to get up to the front of the firing line. it's a very interesting thing to watch since the person who directed the shot obviously know what the musketeers are supposed to do (walk between the rows of pikemen and come up to fire) , they're just not sure how it works, which makes sense since the pikemen are too goddamn close together. it's a legitimately difficult thing to get right, and it requires you to have one corporal for you and one corporal for the musketeers; the two bodies of infantry are being directed simultaneously.
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Aug 28, 2017 21:12
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  Which is to say, people at the School of the Sword translated Alfieri's 1638 flag waving manual: http://sword.school/articles/la-bandiera/
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Aug 28, 2017 21:50
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I really liked Alatriste. I'll probably watch it again soonish. It's a film I keep watching a chunk of and then having to do something else. Kingdom of Heaven has a fight in the middle which I remember being quite odd. There's a couple of knights attacking the main character and he kills one with a rock. The Duelists is already recommended. People really like Rob Roy's fighting. I really don't, maybe it's because it makes out the broadsword to be a brutish weapon with little skill behind it. Or at least, that's the sense I got from the final fight scene I saw.
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Aug 28, 2017 22:19
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Hazzard posted:People really like Rob Roy's fighting. I really don't, maybe it's because it makes out the broadsword to be a brutish weapon with little skill behind it. Or at least, that's the sense I got from the final fight scene I saw. roth was fantastic in that show btw
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Aug 28, 2017 22:44
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HEY GAIL posted:well pikemen with no muskets would just...i dunno what we'd do, stand there and get shot at without fighting back i assume. Fantastic, I had no idea! Very grateful for the insight.
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Aug 29, 2017 14:00
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HEY GAIL posted:that's not the point, the point is to show the main character's debasement and exhaustion and eli roth's character's self-satisfaction. it's all in aid of moving the plot forward. Everything about that fight makes perfect sense not necessarily in a "here's how you'd fight with this weapon" way but in the sense of "this is exactly what you'd expect this character to do based on the previous two hours of the movie." The ending is dumb if you just watch the scene and you're all "why would he make such a dumb mistake" but if you watched the entire movie you know exactly why.
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Aug 29, 2017 14:18
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The best part of The Last Samurai are the costumes and set designs. The movie itself is fine but it suffers from having Tom Cruise as the lead, and also the fights are bad.
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Aug 29, 2017 14:35
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DandyLion posted:Fantastic, I had no idea! Very grateful for the insight.
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Aug 29, 2017 15:14
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So, after a couple of training sessions of Bolognese I find it really interesting. Can't wait to get to do freeplay at some point. It's nice that the beginners course has about 20 participants so it isn't just a couple of people. Also, it was nice to note that the sword I bought for re-enactment is appropriate for training Bolognese, but I won't take it to actual matches as I don't want to totally destroy the blade.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:16
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Ataxerxes posted:So, after a couple of training sessions of Bolognese I find it really interesting. Can't wait to get to do freeplay at some point. It's nice that the beginners course has about 20 participants so it isn't just a couple of people. Also, it was nice to note that the sword I bought for re-enactment is appropriate for training Bolognese, but I won't take it to actual matches as I don't want to totally destroy the blade. brother, the wear is what makes it look more realistic, plus if the metal is strong and springy it should be fine
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Aug 30, 2017 14:24
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HEY GAIL posted:you...don't want to put wear on...a reenactment sword? I do, I just don't want it ending up looking like it was used in fencing practice by Wily E Coyote. Also, it doesn't have the finger-guarding loop (ricosso or something) that a Bolognese sword should, so I won't match with it as I don't want to shatter my fingers. With a slightly stiff leather glove it just feels so very right to the hand, compared to a plastic/rubber trainer I used in the first session.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:49
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WoodrowSkillson posted:the 13th Warrior will own forever I'm ashamed that I forgot this and I'm watching it right now!
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Aug 30, 2017 20:52
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Is anyone familiar with Guy Windsor? Is he legit, or is he the Ashida Kim of European sword arts?
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Aug 31, 2017 21:52
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10 Beers posted:Is anyone familiar with Guy Windsor? Is he legit, or is he the Ashida Kim of European sword arts? Speaking with Jess Finley now and she says he's great. Good guy, fantastic instructor.
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Aug 31, 2017 22:25
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smh if you're not on his email mailing list
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Aug 31, 2017 23:15
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I'm biased because I started out at his school, but A+ instructor and author, would recommend. Can't sabre a bottle of champagne, tho.
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Aug 31, 2017 23:18
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Okay which one of you is the guy wearing baseball leg guards and no loving shoes?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqeXLZgHdio (I like Marsden's counterattacks.  )
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Sep 1, 2017 10:15
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I've never tried sabring champagne. But then again, buying a bunch of bottles of crappy bubbly is cheap, and it would be a really great party trick to know... I'm guessing a sport sabre doesn't have enough mass to cut a bottle open, though.
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Sep 1, 2017 10:27
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You can do it with a butter knife so you should be able to do it with the strong of your sabre as well. The trick is, the bottle is under pressure so if you hit just the right spot, the top of the neck shears itself clean off.
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Sep 1, 2017 10:36
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Any opinions on how good this : https://www.amazon.de/Polish-Saber-Richard-Marsden/dp/0984771654/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504260608&sr=8-1&keywords=polish+saber is about its subject? To my understanding Marsden is a not a fraud when writing about swords.
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Sep 1, 2017 11:11
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Taught 3 hours of classes last night and my throat really hurts today. Good stuff though. Invited the newbs to join in on the intermediate class since it was so small. Beginners class focused on stepping and cutting, namely making them two distinct motions. Step, then cut. Did oberhau and zwerchau with this. Did a drill where they would step towards a person in a mask, gauge distance, then strike softly at the head. Really tried to make them focus on technique and smooth movement rather than speed or power. Intermediate class focused on flow drills and guard transitions. Started with a basic flow drill (I call it the ribbon drill since you make a cancer ribbon shape in the air with your sword) where you unterhau from your right, step, oberhau from your right, unterhau from your left, step, oberhau from your left, and repeat. The sword should transition smoothly to the appropriate transitional guard positions between cuts. So you start in shrankhut, then by cutting unterhau you end up in ochs, which transitions into vom tag (on the right), which when cutting oberhau transitions into pflug (on the left), which you then turn into shrankhut on the opposite side from where you started. Then I spoke a bit about how using your hips to power the sword is important, [A] to keep your arms from getting tired, [B] to keep flow nice and smooth, and [C] to keep your sword moving at the appropriate speed. We did a little workshop of stepping with the hips by forcefully pushing your back hip forward and letting your back foot be pulled forward. Then I had them work on those same transitional guards in a more direct way by thrusting from either pflug or ochs from either side, having them go back and forth across the hall by choosing a guard, closing the line with good form and structure, and then stepping into the thrust. Separated pflug and ochs at first, but then had them mix and match, see what transitions felt awkward on what footing.
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Ataxerxes posted:Any opinions on how good this : https://www.amazon.de/Polish-Saber-Richard-Marsden/dp/0984771654/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504260608&sr=8-1&keywords=polish+saber is about its subject? I don't do polish saber but Marsden is well regarded and a good guy.
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Siivola posted:You can do it with a butter knife so you should be able to do it with the strong of your sabre as well. The trick is, the bottle is under pressure so if you hit just the right spot, the top of the neck shears itself clean off. I did it with a spoon once.
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Sep 1, 2017 15:28
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HEY GAIL posted:smh if you're not on his email mailing list
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Sep 1, 2017 18:42
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Verisimilidude posted:I don't do polish saber but Marsden is well regarded and a good guy. I've heard mixed things about him and didn't find the video of him fighting on Skallagrim's channel that impressive. That could have just been because it's on video, watching fights live is always better than on video. I met a Jerzy at Fightcamp who does Polish sabre and taught a class on it, which I couldn't attend. You can see him fight on Matt Easton's channel. He swings the sword around like a whirling shield of steel, but it used to be more aggressive.
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Sep 2, 2017 08:28
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Siivola posted:Video of people fencing with exposed skin in the target area
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Sep 3, 2017 13:11
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people who are worried about exposed skin for anything more than liability reasons are little bitches. my class does full speed rapier and people often just wear a t shirt. take your bruises like men
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Sep 4, 2017 04:28
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speaking of that vid i wish people making montages of their class wouldnt put in their students fighting with terrible technique, because nothing reflects worse on your credibility as a teacher than looking at one of your students not retreating from an attack or failing to correctly react to a beat and being like "yep this looks good to put online"
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Sep 4, 2017 04:31
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your friend a dog posted:people who are worried about exposed skin for anything more than liability reasons are little bitches. my class does full speed rapier and people often just wear a t shirt. take your bruises like men What if some of the fencers are women?
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Sep 4, 2017 05:53
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10 Beers posted:What if some of the fencers are women? just wear a chest protector? what does that have to do with anything? dont recall seeing anyone with their tits hanging out in that video e: oh i see 
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Sep 4, 2017 06:18
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your friend a dog fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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your friend a dog posted:people who are worried about exposed skin for anything more than liability reasons are little bitches. my class does full speed rapier and people often just wear a t shirt. take your bruises like men Yeah, why should I have to wear a plastron? It makes me sweaty! *Literally dies during open bouting*
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